$20 to anyone who can fix this Mauser Screwup

[silverlance]

Betcha can't fix this

I just got a near unissued M24/47, matching numbers.

Well, it's been a very long time since I last shot a mauser since Ive been so into the M39s. I decided to strip the bolt and clean it... using only memory to guide my disassembly.

Well, I removed the FP assembly and accidentally decocked it.

Then a piece came off.

Then when I tried to unscrew the FP assembly another piece flew off.

Now it's stuck. Help! If I push hard on the protruding FP tip, I can get it to back up a little. But I don't know what else to do. FP assembly won't turn to unscrew out.

 

[35 Whelen]

I'm about to leave for work, but if you can wait until this evening, I'll tell you how to fix it for FREE!! Hint: the firing pin doesn't screw into anything in the bolt body. The little series of lugs on the rear of the firing pin lock it into the cocking piece. I'll be in round 5:00-5:30 CST. PM me if you'd like.
35W

 

[220_Swift]

You can look through this link, and see if it helps. Good luck.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/mauserboltdisassembly/index.asp

 

[JonB]

I did the same thing the first time I pulled my Yugo 24/47 bolt apart to clean it. check out the surplusrifle.com link above and you'll get it.

The real pain for me was getting the extractor back on.

 

[xsquidgator]

I'm not sure I understand your problem fully after the first read-through, but no worries.
1) read the linked section above at surplus rifle.com
2) if that doesn't help, register on their board over there and re-post your question in the appropriate area
3) someone will probably answer quickly
4) no worries b/c if not, 35 Whelen will come back here later and tell you.

I screwed up my K98 once by forgetting to put the extractor back on when I reassembled the rifle. If you do that and put the bolt in the rifle, it will lock up BAD and won't go in or out, you're stuck. I was about to go waste $40 and 2 weeks taking it to my 'smith but I posted a picture and description over at surplusrifle.com, and someone over told me a simple fix in under 10 minutes from my post. You'll be fine, you CAN'T be the first person to have done this.

 

[Slamfire]

I really don't know how you got it in under spring tension, maybe the safety was holding onto one of the firing pin lugs, but regardless of where you started, there you are.

To get it out, you are going to have to pull the firing back enough to rotate the bolt shroud.

The front of the firing has flanges that correspond to flange cuts inside the bolt. From your photo the firing pin has gone fully forward, so you just cannot rotate the thing as is.

Not being near a M98, I would suggest trying to grasp the end of the firing pin with a needle nosed set of pliers.

I have always liked my vise grip set, if you have a set, see if they will fit.

You are going to have to pull the firing back enough to clear those flange cuts and then you can rotate that cocking shroud and unscrew the shroud with the firing pin in the middle.

 

[silverlance]

yup ... murphy's law hit hard here.
I'll go look for my vise grip pliers. unfortunatley mine are the claw type and not needle nose... ill i need to go see if i can picup yup a pair at home depot.

 

[Float Pilot]

That is very hard to do, but I did it once.
I also shot the firing pin out of an M-98 bolt once and just about nailed the gunsmith shop owner in the groin.
Oh to be 13 years old again, so nobody beat me in the head for that one...

It took both of us to get it out. It was 35 years ago, but I think we put a small screw driver in a vice so the small plastic handle was facing up.
We picked one small enough to get into the bolt face.

Then I held the bolt and pushed it down onto the screw driver handle so the firing pin was pushed back a little by the screw driver plastic handle.

Then he grabbed the upper end of the firing pin with a set of long nosed pliers and pulled it back a little more.

I used my other hand and unscrewed the bolt shroud. While holding in the dent pin, A little at a time between slipping .

I seem to remember a lot of cussing and slipping of pliers.

Watch the last couple of threads, because all that spring tension has to go someplace.

 

[Vaarok]

Loop a piece of string around the teeth on the back of the firing pin and give a hard pull, get vise grips on it when it's extended far enough, and then put the safety and cocking piece back on.

 

[highorder]

push the cocking piece back on a hard surface far enough to engage the safety.

 

[buttrap]

I have always used the push the cocking peice on a table edge trick.

 

[-C4-]

Been here before.... its a serious pain to put it back together, but surplusrifle has good instructions. In general I don't use a table b/c it will damage the table. I have found a piece of scrap wood vised to a table work really well.

 

[Slamfire]

Loop a piece of string around the teeth on the back of the firing pin and give a hard pull, get vise grips on it when it's extended far enough, and then put the safety and cocking piece back on.

Clever! I like it.

 

[Nugilum]

Silverlance,

Did you get the bolt fixed?

 

[Harley Quinn]

$20 bucks arn't we the big spender That kind of a deal how can anyone refuse

All the free advise is coming at you like falling snow, picture yourself lucky this has such a nice group of folks with good information, maybe a thank you is needed

HQ

 

[silverlance]

ah, I'm glad I was able to re-find this thread after losing track of it.

NOPE, my bolt is still screwed up. I know how to fix it, it's just that I don't have a vise or a friend to hold onto the bolt around. But I'm hoping to meet up with a Calguns.net member later this week... he actually duplicated the problem in his gun, and then fixed it.. so I'm going to drop by his store and give him his prize, a Lee Reloading Kit - after he fixes my bolt, of course

Thank you to all you guys who gave comments... even the ones who sent me messagesa bout whether the bolt was a real mauser bolt or not... and the ones who got mad when i said that my mosin would never treat me this way... LOL

I tried the shoelace trick but it ripped my shoelace in half :yikes:
I guess my shoelaces were worn. Now I'm walking around with a messed up bolt, and one shoe flops around like a dying fish.
I also tried doing it with a screwdriver; I messed up a perfectly good hollow ground gunsmith's screwdriver and managed to poke myself hard with it in the process as well.

One of these days I really need to build myself a reloading bench so I can screw on a proper vise.

Oh, and I dropped the thing on my big toe too.

 

[Slamfire]

I don't understand why shoelaces did not work, but some of those 80 pound test braided fishing lines ought to be at least four times stronger than the mainspring.

With the lugs on the back of the firing pin you should be able to create a firm wrapping and finish off with a a good knot. With the safety off, heck you should have two ends to pull on, which will almost halve the pull force on the strands.

Then pull in the direction of the firing pin , catch the end with a pair of vise grips, and unscrew the thing.

 

[Float Pilot]

I don't have a vise or a friend to hold onto the bolt

Life is not going well for you....

 

[BigGunsMoreFun]

I have no patience for this stuff

My fuse is short when it comes to stupid things I did that cause me such grief as you are now having. I simply must punish myself by giving the entire screwed up rifle to my dad and going to the next gunshow and buying another one or two.

Usually I buy two. That way if I screw up again, I can take the screwed up one and beat it against the side of the house until I feel better. :banghead: Then I sell it on Gunbroker for a parts gun and never take the bolt apart again on the rifle I have left.

Molon Labe,
Joe