200 gr .40 S&W ammo?

[wow6599]

I came across a site that sells 200 gr .40 ammo. I thought 180 was as high as it got? Here is their claim -

Caliber : .40 S&W

Bullet : 200gr. Wide Flat Nose Gas Checked

Ballistics : 200gr. @ 1050fps / 490 ft/lbs- Glock 23 (4.0"bbl)
Glock 22 4.5" bbl - 1106fps
Glock 27 3.5" bbl - 1009fps

They also carry 200 gr jhp, but who would want that? The 200 gr round or flat could turn a .40 S&W into a little meaner round. Any thoughts? Like I said, I have never even heard of anything over 180 gr.

 

[308sc]

your not alone I have never heard of one being over 180 either, but that is not to say that they don't exist

 

[TAB]

I've seen it in 10 mm, would not be that shocking to see someone loading it in a 40.

 

[DevilDog0402]

Why not, it can probably push a 200 grainer about as fast as a .45, I imagine.

 

[Grandpa Shooter]

I own bullets for .40 in 140g, 147g, 155g, 180g and 200g. I have shot all of them and actually prefer the light bullets for my two carbines and the heavier ones in my three pistols. The 200's are best in my Glock.

 

[wow6599]

Grandpa Shooter - sent you a PM.

 

[-v-]

doubletap carries 200gr Hard-casts, JHP, and FMJs for the .40. Personally, I don't see much point in the 200gr'ers other then a hunting round. As experience by various federal agencies has shown, the sweet spot for a .40 S&W bullet is in the 155-165gr range. This weight of JHP has a proven track record, and as far as the numbers go, you maximize both the KE and Momentum of the .40 S&W round right in this area.

The 200gr JHP might expand reliably, and it will go a good ways through a target, but the expansion may not be very impressive, although the penetration should be quite impressive. However, the 200gr in a 10mm/.40 flavor does nudge out the 9mm 147gr as having the highest sectional density of any auto-loading round in the .22-.45 category.

 

[Pat-inCO]

I like the 40 S&W for 155 & 165GR loads. I'll use the 10mm for 180Gr and up.

 

[scurtis_34471]

I have found that I prefer 165gr loads for .40. If I want to shoot 200gr bullets, I'll get a .45.

 

[wow6599]

scurtis_34471 - so you have fired 200 gr .40 S&W's?

 

[shooter1]

Haven't found any good reason to load 200gr bullets in the .40. I have loaded them in 10mm where the bullet profile didn't cause feeding problems. I have had good results in both .40 and 10mm with hard cast LSWC bullets in the 175gr range. If you want to order some of the 200gr bullets for the caliber, here is a source of good bullets.

http://www.cheycast.com/
str1

 

[scotty]

Several years ago I experimented with quite a few .40 loads for USPSA matches.

I tried a number of bullet weights. Recoil impulse seemed softer/slower with heavier bullets but recovery time for the next aimed shot seemed longer. I finally settled on 180gr bullets as my personal preference. 200gr loads were softer shooting but showed up as being a bit slower for a given string of shots. This was for competition use and defense chores were not a consideration. A lot of this went on before I bought a chronograph, so I don't have any chrono data for 200gr loads. All of this is very subjective and YMMV.

 

[belus]

This pic may be a little large for the forum so hopefully you can click through.

I don't use this load and took the picture from a poster in another forum. He claims it's 200gr @ 1120fps out of his Hi Power.

 

[shooter1]

Scotty,
Were you shooting the 200gr bullets in a Glock? I have generally found a shorter OAL feeds more reliably in my Glocks. I have never tried the 200gr .40s in a Glock, just curious. For my .40 Glock, I settled on the 175 LSWC, easy to make PF with that bullet. I tried the 200gr bullets in a 10mm Witness that I also have a .40 S&W barrel for. They worked ok in both barrels, but like you I could find no real advantage for Action Pistol shoots, and I am not a hunter.
str1

 

[Deanimator]

I loaded some 200gr. lead (truncated cone?) back when .40S&W first came out. I'm sure I got them from Penn Bullets. I don't know about loaded ammunition, since other than self-defense ammunition, I buy nothing I can load myself.

 

[scotty]

Shooter1,
Yes the 200gr (lead) loads were fired in a G22 with a Bar-sto barrel. I later purchased a Para-Ordnance P-16 for match use after which my scores got noticeably better. By the time I got the Para, I had already settled on 180gr bullets as the place to be. I still have the Glock. Interestingly, the two guns will chrono almost identically with the same loads. Yes the Glock needs a pretty short OAL, the Para can take them a bit longer but not by much.