Hi, this is my first post here, but I've been reading this forum for a month now, as these forums have been a great help and provided me a great deal of information in my gun and ammo selection over the past month. Here is my situation:
About a month ago, there was a gang shootout on my street, and my entire neighborhood was out of control for about 2 hours until the police could regain control of the streets. I was not a gun owner at the time, but my neighbors were, and one of them let me borrow his Remington 22 lr carbine rifle. The next day, after getting only 2 hours of sleep, I went to WalMart and purchased a Ruger 10/22 Carbine for home defense (due to cost and because the Ruger 10/22 was the ONLY gun I have experience firing... it was the only gun I felt confident I could hit my target with). I loaded the magazine with CCI Stingers.
The following day, I went to the range to test out a variety of ammo. I have since purchased and tested the CCI Velocitor. In addition to these two CCI rounds, I have also tested bulk Federal and Remington Gold Point. The Federal is the ONLY round that has ever jammed, and it has jammed on multiple occasions. I will not be purchasing this ammo again (even though it is loved by most 10/22 owners).
As far as accuracy is concerned, The CCI Velocitor has performed the best by far, with the Stinger coming in second. The accuracy of the Remington was poor. The Federal's accuracy was the same as the Stinger's, but the jamming problem prevents me from wanting to use it. My tests have been done at ranges of 7 yards to 25 yards (home-defense ranges). So it's a tossup between the Stinger and the Velocitor. The Velocitor is more accurate, which is why it's my personal favorite, but I've read other posts that say the Stinger is better for self-defense. Using the standard gun sights, I'm hitting 9/10 3" targets at 25 yards with the Velocitor and 7.5/10 with the Stinger. At 7 yards, I'm hitting 10/10 with both rounds. Under rapid-fire (firing all 10 rounds as fast as I could... took about 3 seconds from ready fire), free-standing (firing position) conditions at 7 yards (most likely situation for a home-invasion), I've managed to hit a 3" target 10/10 with the Velocitor a couple of times, but my best with the stinger was only 8/10. I think this is probably due to the recoil (the gun tends to rise quite a bit with the Stinger when fired quickly).
I've read that in ballistics gel, the Stinger penetrates better than the Velocitor, but those tests were done with pistols. I think the rifle will have more power, and I think the heaver 40 grain Velocitor vs 32 grain Stinger will be more effective. Then again, the Stinger is a lot faster.
The problem is... every topic I've found has discussed the Stinger vs Velocitor in a pistol.... any thoughts on the use in a rifle? I'm looking for knockdown power (if there is such a thing in a 22).
All thoughts (other than jokes about the lowly 22) would be appreciated. Thanks!
P.S. I'm currently in the process of saving up enough money to purchase a Mossberg 590 so this won't be an issue for much longer, but it would be nice to know for the time being.
About a month ago, there was a gang shootout on my street, and my entire neighborhood was out of control for about 2 hours until the police could regain control of the streets. I was not a gun owner at the time, but my neighbors were, and one of them let me borrow his Remington 22 lr carbine rifle. The next day, after getting only 2 hours of sleep, I went to WalMart and purchased a Ruger 10/22 Carbine for home defense (due to cost and because the Ruger 10/22 was the ONLY gun I have experience firing... it was the only gun I felt confident I could hit my target with). I loaded the magazine with CCI Stingers.
The following day, I went to the range to test out a variety of ammo. I have since purchased and tested the CCI Velocitor. In addition to these two CCI rounds, I have also tested bulk Federal and Remington Gold Point. The Federal is the ONLY round that has ever jammed, and it has jammed on multiple occasions. I will not be purchasing this ammo again (even though it is loved by most 10/22 owners).
As far as accuracy is concerned, The CCI Velocitor has performed the best by far, with the Stinger coming in second. The accuracy of the Remington was poor. The Federal's accuracy was the same as the Stinger's, but the jamming problem prevents me from wanting to use it. My tests have been done at ranges of 7 yards to 25 yards (home-defense ranges). So it's a tossup between the Stinger and the Velocitor. The Velocitor is more accurate, which is why it's my personal favorite, but I've read other posts that say the Stinger is better for self-defense. Using the standard gun sights, I'm hitting 9/10 3" targets at 25 yards with the Velocitor and 7.5/10 with the Stinger. At 7 yards, I'm hitting 10/10 with both rounds. Under rapid-fire (firing all 10 rounds as fast as I could... took about 3 seconds from ready fire), free-standing (firing position) conditions at 7 yards (most likely situation for a home-invasion), I've managed to hit a 3" target 10/10 with the Velocitor a couple of times, but my best with the stinger was only 8/10. I think this is probably due to the recoil (the gun tends to rise quite a bit with the Stinger when fired quickly).
I've read that in ballistics gel, the Stinger penetrates better than the Velocitor, but those tests were done with pistols. I think the rifle will have more power, and I think the heaver 40 grain Velocitor vs 32 grain Stinger will be more effective. Then again, the Stinger is a lot faster.
The problem is... every topic I've found has discussed the Stinger vs Velocitor in a pistol.... any thoughts on the use in a rifle? I'm looking for knockdown power (if there is such a thing in a 22).
All thoughts (other than jokes about the lowly 22) would be appreciated. Thanks!
P.S. I'm currently in the process of saving up enough money to purchase a Mossberg 590 so this won't be an issue for much longer, but it would be nice to know for the time being.