KevininPa
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GeoDudeFlorida beat me to it.
Now, I do have an old H&R 686 that does okay in .22 LR but is really accurate in .22 LR
Pat, no offense brother, but I'm somewhat confused by this last statement.
GeoDudeFlorida beat me to it.
Now, I do have an old H&R 686 that does okay in .22 LR but is really accurate in .22 LR
Pat, no offense brother, but I'm somewhat confused by this last statement.
I've found .22 LR to be more reliable than .22 Mag in regards to priming.There is very little gain in velocity with the short barrel NAA mini-revolver in .22 WMR vs .22 LR. My impression is the advantage in the NAA Mini is not any gain in velocity, but in the fact almost all .22 WMR cartridges will go bang, but .22 LR cartridges are more likely to have priming issues.
.357 magnum certainly is made for handgun length barrels, but it really gets moving in carbine length barrels. .22 magnum acts similarly, so I have no issue using .22 mag in a handgun.
Grain for grain, you aren't going to be getting 300-400 more fps with .22 Mag over .22 LR in any revolver, period. I've chrono'd CCI Velocitor and Winchester Hyper Speed, the fastest 40 grain .22 LR ammo available, out of a 6.5" Heritage and the Winchester was the fastest averaging 1050 fps. I was shooting and measuring Hornady Critical Defense and Speer Gold Dot from the same gun last week and the Hornady 45gr load got an average of 1145 fps and the Speer 1173, 1190 if I throw out the one low one that came in at 1060.
Yeah, but what are we shooting with our .22 WMR handguns? Those two ammo choices I used are effective self defense loads. IDK who is using their .22 WMR revolver for hunting and for any other kind of shooting the velocity is meaningless.Like I said in this thread before, it depends on the revolver and the ammo how much more speed you get out of .22 WMR.
Ammo like Hornady Critical Defense is designed to work better in shorter barrels. Even that 4.6" barreled Single Six noted in post #31 is besting your 6.5" Heritage's .22 WMR numbers with the two self defense cartridges at the bottom of the chart.
Then you look at the speeds non-self defense .22 WMR is showing out of revolvers in many other posts in this thread. 1350 fps for 40 grain ammo is not uncommon. 1650 fps for 30 grain ammo is not uncommon.
A lot of people seem to believe that but it's completely untrue. The same powders that yield the highest velocities in rifle barrels will do the same in handguns. Powders are chosen for pressure range and capacity, not barrel length. Those "short barrel" loads use more tender bullets and low flash powders, i.e., those that use flash suppressants. Not because they yield higher velocity. Fact, not opinion.In no world can you get optimum performance with the same powder with a 40 grain projectile out of a 20" barrel and a 4 or 6" at the same time.
Except, I do.Grain for grain, you aren't going to be getting 300-400 more fps with .22 Mag over .22 LR in any revolver, period. I've chrono'd CCI Velocitor and Winchester Hyper Speed, the fastest 40 grain .22 LR ammo available, out of a 6.5" Heritage and the Winchester was the fastest averaging 1050 fps.
Pretty sure I already posted a 350fps, difference out of the same gun.So, we're looking at maybe 150 fps and 25-35 ft/lbs more over the fastest .22 LR ammo and that's with a fairly long barrel, I would imagine the .22 Mag loses more velocity than .22 LR does from a shorter barrel.
I guess you never hunted with one.I'll be upfront and say I'm not a fan of .22 Magnum in handguns....
Sad, really. Again, the .22Mag out of a handgun is more potent than the .22LR out of rifles and more effective on larger varmints.Other than those specific single actions, I don't see any reason to own a .22 Mag revolver, especially a double action.
First I've heard this. In 30yrs and untold thousands of rounds of .22Mag and .17HMR, I don't recall EVER having a misfire. Perhaps what you have is an unreliable firearm and are blaming the cartridge.And don't even get me started on the unreliability of .22 Mag ammo.
I've been shooting various brands of .22 WMR for decades and have never had a dud round.
I had problems with various Automag II pistols but I think that was more of a design flaw in the magazine than the ammo.I cannot recall a FTF either with a .22 Magnum. But I have had some with .17HMR and being as it is the same case as .22 Magnum I suspect FTFs do happen.