.22lr Accuracy shooting, HV versus subsonics.

[22-rimfire]

Heck. Sometimes it feels short compared to my Remington 513-T.

The extra cost IS in the stock, but it also is in the finish. You'll notice that most of the Savage models offer a "satin" blued finish. This one is called their high luster blued finish with takes extra production time.

Then again.... congratulations on the CZ choice.

The gun i picked out and put in layaway, Which ill explain in a second is the CZ452 Ultra Lux with 28" barrel.

Looks like a bit of a "broom stick" for a barrel. Happy Shooting!

 

[NoAlibi]

How can that be???

farscott - In .22 competition shooting, all true match loads are subsonic as subsonic loads exhibit less wind drift (counter-intuitive but true) and accuracy is not affected when the bullet goes transonic.

About 20 years ago I read an article that explained why sub-sonic ammo exhibits less wind drift. I have forgotten the details and I would appreciate it if you or one of our enlightened posters could give me a hint because memory is definitely not serving! Thanks!

 

[DasFriek]

Yeah that 28" barrel is like swinging a fishing pole around, Thankfully its not a heavy barrel that would weigh a ton. But with my pretty long Centerpoint 4-16x40 scope it should look pretty wicked.
I really liked the fluted and twisted Savage barrels but the extra cost for looks is always something i can do without.
But some extras you must have, Like long barrels, Thumbhole stocks and heavy varmint barrels. I just love those as i find they do add function along with looks.

NoAlibi- I think that may be a question best asked at rimfirecentral as i know i cant even guess at an answer.

 

[ArthurDent]

Not to rain on your parade
...
My mod 60 will shoot groups half that size, at 100 yds. Like these;

rangerruck, your fantastic groups ([post=6447592]here[/post]) make me want to cry

I'm still trying to learn... (See my old post [thread=485317]here[/thread].)

(ArthurDent leaves, weeping... )

 

[rangerruck]

the reason subsonic ammo, loses speed less, and windrifts less, is weir but true.
at normal hi speed, the wind or atmosphere hits the front of the bullet(meplat).
then as the wind passes under it, the wind or the atmospher, bounces up and down, like a dude on a trampoline, up and down, off of the bullet, as the bullet passes under it. This effect seems to only happen to 22 cal bullets, and also only 22 cal bullets in the hi velocity speed range of a 22lr bullet. So as this happens, the wind waves buffet it several times as it passes along, both sheering off speed, and moving the bullet laterally.
A subsonic bullet, gets hit in the meplat, and then the air slips over the sides and back of it once, like you see with something being smoked easily over in a wind tunnel. So a subsonic bullet, does not go through the wind sheering or bouncing effect, and therefore keeps up it's speed, and inertia and energy better- losing these things at a much slower rate than a hi vel bullet.