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Chris Rhines
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Okay, Majic. My own interests, apart from defensive shooting, include IDPA, USPSA stock, NRA Conventional Pistol, steel, pins, and all of those games require sustained fire. Only pistol game I can think of that does not are IHMSA and NRA Hunter's Pistol. Oh, and ISU Free Pistol, but I think that we can leave that one out (my advice to a new shooter who wants to do FP would be to visit a competent psychologist with experience in treating masochism.)
So I stand by my statement, to wit: that rapid, sustained fire is a necessary component of pistol training.
As to revolvers being harder to shoot: I base this statement on my own experience training new shooters. Probably a hundred in the past five years, most of whom had zero experience, and all of whom did better with an automatic than with a revolver. Several came to prefer the wheelgun eventually, but everyone found the semis to be easier to shoot off the bat.
My way of doing things, and I've found it to work well.
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So I stand by my statement, to wit: that rapid, sustained fire is a necessary component of pistol training.
As to revolvers being harder to shoot: I base this statement on my own experience training new shooters. Probably a hundred in the past five years, most of whom had zero experience, and all of whom did better with an automatic than with a revolver. Several came to prefer the wheelgun eventually, but everyone found the semis to be easier to shoot off the bat.
My way of doing things, and I've found it to work well.
- Chris
BluesBear
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Have we forgotten the focus of theis thread?
Have we not yet learned the lesson of "wax on - wax off" ?
We are talking about absolute beginners here.
Suatained fire is good, but that's not where one starts.
Have we not yet learned the lesson of "wax on - wax off" ?
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I stand by my original post and choices. Model 18 in revolver first thing a newbie is exposed to. Then to a K frame ( model 10) 4" revo. This all completed THEN the bottom feeder in Buckmark, sometimes a 22/45. We go to other bottom feeder from there.
Blues Bear and I on same page , he uses a Colt I use Smiths. We agree on ergos, safety, ammo , ability to change grips on the 22 revo starting out a new shooter- Especially ladies and kids. Women IME are better students. If they are able to "see" the mechanics for themselves, "feel" safe with firearm, instructor and "comfortable" with entire process, woman exponentially learn the shooting curve better , quicker, faster, and safer.
Good ears lessens "percieved recoil" in anything. A well fitted gun with a bit of weight lessens recoil. Good triggers , especially DA is critica lfor trigger control. People will not thumb back the hammer to shoot in a SD situation. SA only guns the new shooters "can" develop a flinch waiting for the hammer to fall, and when it does they flinch instead of "following through the shot". IMO. Hence the learning on DA revo for a lady newbie.
I learned on a DA revolver. High Standard Sentential, 9 shot with 'geniuine plastic grips". Not the best trigger to learn on , when I got ahold of a good trigger in revolver...wow...I was better at shooting I really improved. I then threw a fit to have my Sentinel trigger smoothed/tweaked, the rest is history they say.
Blues Bear and I on same page , he uses a Colt I use Smiths. We agree on ergos, safety, ammo , ability to change grips on the 22 revo starting out a new shooter- Especially ladies and kids. Women IME are better students. If they are able to "see" the mechanics for themselves, "feel" safe with firearm, instructor and "comfortable" with entire process, woman exponentially learn the shooting curve better , quicker, faster, and safer.
Good ears lessens "percieved recoil" in anything. A well fitted gun with a bit of weight lessens recoil. Good triggers , especially DA is critica lfor trigger control. People will not thumb back the hammer to shoot in a SD situation. SA only guns the new shooters "can" develop a flinch waiting for the hammer to fall, and when it does they flinch instead of "following through the shot". IMO. Hence the learning on DA revo for a lady newbie.
I learned on a DA revolver. High Standard Sentential, 9 shot with 'geniuine plastic grips". Not the best trigger to learn on , when I got ahold of a good trigger in revolver...wow...I was better at shooting I really improved. I then threw a fit to have my Sentinel trigger smoothed/tweaked, the rest is history they say.
BluesBear
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If I were still teaching, (which I am not, but would love to again if I could only find a place in need) and since Diamondbacks are getting scarce and expensive, what I'd go for is a 4" 6 shot K-frame S&W in both .22 & .38.
I would also use a 4" S&W J-frame .22 Kit Gun and a 3" J-frame .38.
A 2" kitgun could be useful if the woman was thinking about a .38 snub.
I would also use a 4" S&W J-frame .22 Kit Gun and a 3" J-frame .38.
A 2" kitgun could be useful if the woman was thinking about a .38 snub.
TheOtherOne
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For those with small hands a good autoloader would be a Walther P22
Mastrogiacomo
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I'm in the same boat but plan to get the Ruger single-six and and a SP101. Both would be great guns to pratice with and user friendly in my opinion....if I'm correct, they're also not terribly expensive. 
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I do most of my shooting with 22 pistols: Ruger 22/45 with 4-in barrel, Taurus Model 96 with 6-in barrel (copy of S&W Model 17), and EAA Small Bore Bounty single action revolver with 6.75-in barrel. My current favorite of the bunch is the Taurus double action revolver, for which I only paid $175 used. I then spent an additional $50 to have the trigger smoothed. While the smoothed trigger is not S&W quality, it is pretty dog-gone good nonetheless, and I have only invested about half of what it would cost to buy a good Model 17.
That said, it's hard to go wrong with a 22LR pistol--they are all fun to shoot and I can keep myself entertained all day for about $9 of ammo. (I buy Remington loose pack in the big 550 round box.)
That said, it's hard to go wrong with a 22LR pistol--they are all fun to shoot and I can keep myself entertained all day for about $9 of ammo. (I buy Remington loose pack in the big 550 round box.)
dustind
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I love my Beretta Neos. Do not believe what they say about the trigger, it is easy to lighten. It only costs a bit over $200, and all of the owners at www.rimfirecentral.com seem to agree that it will feed any ammo. If you get it, put a dab of blue loc-tite on the rear sight windage screw so it does not vibrate out.
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