I use 2400 for 30 Carbine, 327 Magnum, 357 Magnum and 44 Magnum (1st 3 revolvers and the 44 mag is a carbine). I am starting to run low on 2400 and looking at other options for a substitute until I can get some more 2400. Anyone have a recommendation for a single powder that would cover all 4 of these calibers? I really don't want to add 2 or 3 new powders to my collection if I can help it. Thanks!
2400 Substitutes?
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redbullitt
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I would not mind finding some more myself... I do know n110 is good stuff, but seems to be expensive around here.
db_tanker
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Lil gun sr4756 and h110/win296 are all good choices.
Ironicaintit
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I know diddly squat about loading for the 327, but what I DO know is 4227 works well in the other 3 you listed
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SR4756 is discontinued. There are known issues w/ Lil'Gun. Wether you decide to use it of not is on you. And H110/W296 can't be loaded to lower levels like 2400 can. I use a lot of H110 and is my preferred powder for magnums. But it has it's limitations.
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IMR4227 is a pretty decent powder in 357 and 44 magnums. I don't know if there is any data for the 327. However a quick spin of IMR's website would resolve that question. 
Plus I love 4227 in my 32-40 and 30-30 with cast bullets. I find it is a versatile powder.
--Still prefer 2400 in my 357 magnum, however.
Plus I love 4227 in my 32-40 and 30-30 with cast bullets. I find it is a versatile powder.
--Still prefer 2400 in my 357 magnum, however.
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For those cartridges in handguns and lever carbines, don't overlook Unique or Universal.
My most accurate loads in all those cartridges is either #2400 or Unique.
Unique will get ~90% of the velocity of #2400, using about 60% weight of powder with same or better accuracy.
I get 1,175 fps from 4" Ruger Sec'6 and 7.5grn Unique w158grn gc cast bullet. 12.5grn #2400 gets 1,250fps. Deer and pigs can't feel the difference.
My most accurate loads in all those cartridges is either #2400 or Unique.
Unique will get ~90% of the velocity of #2400, using about 60% weight of powder with same or better accuracy.
I get 1,175 fps from 4" Ruger Sec'6 and 7.5grn Unique w158grn gc cast bullet. 12.5grn #2400 gets 1,250fps. Deer and pigs can't feel the difference.
LUCKYDAWG13
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you may have to use more then just one powder to load all 4 calibers
I substituted my 2400 to BlueDot and Unique just in my 44 magnum
also found that RedDot works well in a lot of calibers
I substituted my 2400 to BlueDot and Unique just in my 44 magnum
also found that RedDot works well in a lot of calibers
db_tanker
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Damn...sucks bout the SR being discontinued. Only have 3 lbs left
ArchAngelCD
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H110 was developed for loading the 30 Carbine. Of course that doesn't make it the best choice all these years later but it is a good choice. W296 is identical so either will do. Like said above, almost any magnum powder will do well like AA#9, N110, Enforcer, MP-300 and the like. Lil'Gun gives great velocity at lower pressures but at the cost of higher heat too.
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TimSr
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I agree. No direct replacement. 4227 is probably closest. 110/296 is a great replacement as well.
Hondo 60
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My magnum powders are 2400 & Lil Gun.
I have no experience with the other powders listed above.
I have no experience with the other powders listed above.
My brother brought me a pound of IMR4227 from WV for me to try in the 327 magnum and it seems to do okay (a lot better than W231). I also tried it in the 30 carbine and it seems to do well in it also. I found some of the AA#9 at a decent price online and there seems to be load data for all 4 of these rounds. It is also costs a lot less than IMR4227. The nearest place to me (about an hour drive) that has any IMR4227 wants $34.00 (plus tax) per pound. If I order 5 lbs of various powder it will average out to about $28.00 a pound. Thanks for help!
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What's wrong w/ W231 in the 327? It's not going to give you full power loads. But keep the pressure up and you have an accurate round that burn cleanly.
Probably nothing all wrong with it. My first try using it I ended up 4 cases stuck in the cylinder of my Ruger 7 revolver. I was using a load in the middle of what Hodgdon had on their site for W231. With this load I also found it to be extremely dirty in my gun. I found 2400 the best of the 3 I have tried so far, followed by IMR4227. Hodgdon's website lists H4227 for one of the powders for the 327 Magnum but since it doesn't seem to exist any longer I tried IMR4227 and it worked just fine using the same recipe. Once it warms up I will give W231 another try since I have a couple pounds of it on hand. I did find some IMR4227 and AA9 on Graf's website tonight so I'll good to go for awhile once my order arrives. Thanks again for all the suggestions.
That's how I ended up buying a 327 Magnum. Thought I had picked up a box of 357 Magnum ammo and after I got home realized it was 327 Magnum. Couldn't find anyone around that owned one of the guns to give the ammo to and I sure wasn't going to throw it away. Saw the Ruger 327 at Green Top (Richmond, VA) and I was hooked. I really do like it now that I have it and found some reloads that are fun to shoot. It is as much fun to shoot as my Ruger 30 carbine, just not as much bark.
Ironicaintit
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Pistol seeds! Ive grown them that way, too.parker51 said:
That's why they don't allow returns on ammo. They know we can't stand to have a new box of ammo sitting around with nothing to put it in. Twice as bad if you reload, then you have to pick up a new set of dies, powder, brass and more bullets.
ArchAngelCD
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The 327 Magnum can also safely fire the 32 H&H Magnum and 32 S&W and 32 S&W Long Cartridges so if you are looking for fun you can load some up for range fun.
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