.270 penetration power

[Dylon Fisher]

I just recently got a Remington 700 .270. Is this a good brush gun.Can it go through twigs and branches and stuff.

 

[wxjeep]

From my personal experience yes the .270 round will go through brush, twigs, and branches. However, anything it hits is going to change the point of impact of the bullet. Even with a heavy round you need to choose your shot to lessen the chance of the round being off target.

 

[bejay]

its a great rifle but I wouldnt be expecting it to go through brush and still hit whatever you was aiming at I wouldnt really expect that out of any gun.

 

[Coltdriver]

Dylon, the notion of any round going through twigs and brush and staying on its original flight path is a myth. Nothing will do that.

The .270 is an excellent and well proven round. Get a clear shot and any decent .270 is a great hunting weapon.

 

[hardluk1]

There is no brush gun except maybe slugs to a point.. Use your scope and place your bullet and that 270 will be fine. I us 125grNBT 308 and 140grSST in a 7mm mag and they work just fine. Pick your shots.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

The definition of "Brush Gun" has been highly misused. It is NOT because the bullet is overly large and will go through brush and such. It is the rifle itself. A "Brush Gun" is one that is short, light, easy to handle in heavy cover, and typically a shorter range firearm. The .30/30 is your typical "Brush Gun" for these reasons.

I've seen saw grass vary a bullets flight path. Shooting through heavy cover is not advisable under any circumstance because it can and WILL change the bullets trajectory. You are then breaking the golden rule of "Know your target and what lies beyond it" because once that bullets trajectory is changed, you may have no idea where it is heading or hitting.

 

[bigedp51]

Dylon Fisher

I carried a .270 Remington 760 Gamemaster for over 20 years for Eastern woods and field hunting and if you reload I would recommend the Hornady Interlock bullets for any type of hunting. The Hornady Interlocks hold together just like a Nosler partition bullet and I have never had a bullet come apart while hunting or shooting into the dirt banks of berm behind the target boards.

The .270 is a great rifle on any terrain but remember this, the National Rifleman did an article on the bullets ability to shoot through brush using test boxs with wooden dowel rods placed inside the wooden *boxes. The "ONLY" caliber rifle able to fly straight through the dowel rods and not be deflected was a .458 Winchester Magnum firing 500 grain bullets.

*The boxes were designed that at least two dowel rods would be hit as a minimum with some hitting as many as four dowel rods of varing sizes from 1/8 inch to 3/4 of an inch in diameter. Every caliber except the .458 Winchester magnum were deflected no matter the bullet shape or rate of twist, with many missing the target placed three feet behind the dowel rod test boxes.

For woods hunting and my .270 I used the Hornady 150 grain round nose bullets and for long open shots I used the Hornady 130 grain spire points with both bullets being the interlock type.

 

[scythefwd]

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot40.htm

He doesn't shoot a .270, but he does use a .308. I'd expect similar results.

 

[jmr40]

There is no such thing as a bullet that will reliably shoot through brush without deflecting.

a 270 is as good, or bad as anything. The object is to have a rifle accurate enough to shoot through openings in the brush and hit the animal

 

[mortablunt]

Got the answer. It will be somewhat more severely deflected by brush because it is fast and light. Any round will suffer some deflection, unless you're using 20mm shells, but you're not exactly hunting deer then...

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

It's described as being suitable for big game so what is a twig going to do it?

Look up "High Velocity Impact affecting trajectory". You have to remember that the bullet is not all that heavy. Impacting anything at all can affect the trajectory heavily. As I mentioned earlier, I have seen saw grass put a 150gr JSP from a .308 almost 4 inches off the mark. Judging from the entry wound, the bullet keyholed. That means it was almost sideways upon entry. Now, if a single blade of sawgrass can affect a 150gr JSP traveling in upwards of 2700fps (figured it was down to that by 80 yards) and would take the bullet off the mark by 4 inches AND the grass that it hit was only 30 feet away from the deer, what do you think a heavy piece of brush is going to do?

 

[dubbleA]

There is no such thing as a bullet that will reliably shoot through brush without deflecting.

This was true years ago, but with the internets anything is possible. :banghead:

 

[mdauben]

Some people say that heavy, slower bullets are less effected by brush (which is the exact opposite of the fast, relatively light .270 round), but the idea that any bullet will be unaffected by hitting twigs and branches is a myth.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Some people say that heavy, slower bullets are less effected by brush (which is the exact opposite of the fast, relatively light .270 round), but the idea that any bullet will be unaffected by hitting twigs and branches is a myth.

Funny little quick story. I was in Pa hunting with my Marlin .444 with 240gr JSP loaded up in her. I have a 2.5-7x40 Nikon mounted up on it. I'm easing out to my spot that over looks a soybean field. About halfway there I freeze. At 85 yards I see this nice 8 pointer rubbing on a sapling. I drop to a knee, take in a breath, lay the crosshair dead on high shoulder, pull the hammer back, let out half a breath, squeeze, BANG!. Deer falls down, 2 inch sapling that the vertical crosshair covered fell over too!!!! Luckily it was only a couple of inches away from the deer.

 

[jmr40]

There have been some tests that show that bullets that have most of their weight forward, meaning heavy for caliber, round nose FMJ bullets do a little better. I mean very little better. Velocity has no effect. Shooting a 160 gr round nose bullet from a 270 would be just as effective as a 170 gr 30-30 bullet.

All of them will deflect. Some more than others. If your target is only a few inches beyond the brush it hits it may not deflect enough to cause a miss. But then again it might. The best brush guns are the ones that shoot flat enough, and are accurate enough to shoot through openings in the brush.

 

[Hizzie]

Even the legendary .505 Gibbs 525gr nickel jacketed solid will deflect on brush. You watch football right. How heavy is a football compared to a bullet? Just the slightest touch from a LB's finger can send a pass out of control.

Looked it up for ya (I was curious too) just under 1 pound for a standard football. There are 7000 (yes 7 thousand) grains per pound.

If you want the best performance out of your ammo spend some $$$ and get the best quality bullet available. The bullet it the key player in your hunt that does the actual work - it touches the game. If your are humping brush then a low power scope with wide field of view or red dot sight is the ticket for fast shots on running game.

 

[Dylon Fisher]

Thank you hizzie. I can relate to the thing about football.

 

[Dylon Fisher]

Thanks everyone, idk what i was thinking.

 

[Maple_City_Woodsman]

270 will have good penetrating power with most any bullet.

Load it with a 120gr Barnes Banded Solid, and I should think it would penetrate clean through just about anything.

 

[T.R.]

The 150 grain 270 bullet is comparible to 6.5mm 140 grain bullet and .308 180 grain bullet. All three bullets have very good sectional density and ballistic coefficient for deep penetration.

TR

 

[Hizzie]

The 150 grain 270 bullet is comparible to 6.5mm 140 grain bullet and .308 180 grain bullet. All three bullets have very good sectional density and ballistic coefficient for deep penetration.

TR

What exactly is your definition of "Very Good" SD?

180gr .308 = .271 SD
150gr .270 = .294
140gr 6.5 = .296

 

[mljdeckard]

I trust the .270 to maintain trajectory well enough to hit through any brush with enough visibility for me to safely shoot through it.

 

[Abel]

What exactly is your definition of "Very Good" SD?

The kind that a 200gr 35 Remington has! Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[brnmuenchow]

I've seen saw grass vary a bullets flight path. Shooting through heavy cover is not advisable under any circumstance because it can and WILL change the bullets trajectory. You are then breaking the golden rule of "Know your target and what lies beyond it" because once that bullets trajectory is changed, you may have no idea where it is heading or hitting.

Agreed, I have been using a Winchester Model 70 (.270 Win.) for years and it is a powerful gun but it will not fight some of those elements. I don't care if your using .375 H&H Mag., or a .458 Win. Mag. you hit a branch, your off your origional intended impact point. I have let many game live to fight another day just because of that.

 

[Hizzie]

The kind that a 200gr 35 Remington has! Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is even lower SD than the above examples.

200gr .350 = .223 SD