coosbaycreep
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I have a few boxes of the cheap greek M2 surplus ammo that seems to have vanished earlier this year. While looking online, I've seen other surplus .30-06 M2 (although U.S. made IIRC instead of greek made) that were listed as armor piercing, and even said armor piercing on the box. So is the greek M2 stuff I have considered AP? If so, is it just steel core, or is there something else fancy about it?
I've done a few unscientific penetration tests with it against steel, and none of the steel plates I had were thick enough to stop it. My AK wasn't able to punch through with any type of wolf ammo though (SP, HP, FMJ).
How does the M2 compare to the black tip AP stuff that gets sold online a lot? Most of it seems to be pulled from .308 U.S. surplus. Is there any other places selling the black tip AP bullets besides gunbroker, and if so, is it worth getting over the M2? I have a friend that reloads for .30-06, and that's currently the most powerful caliber I own (unless 8mm is more powerful).
If the black tip bullets outperform M2 with handloading enough to justify their costs, I wouldn't mine eventually picking some up. The gun I have is a Winchester 670. Are hot reloads even safe to shoot out of this model? The gun's in good shape, but from my understanding, the 670 is an economy model, and I don't want to shoot anything through it that might damage the gun or me.
thanks.
I've done a few unscientific penetration tests with it against steel, and none of the steel plates I had were thick enough to stop it. My AK wasn't able to punch through with any type of wolf ammo though (SP, HP, FMJ).
How does the M2 compare to the black tip AP stuff that gets sold online a lot? Most of it seems to be pulled from .308 U.S. surplus. Is there any other places selling the black tip AP bullets besides gunbroker, and if so, is it worth getting over the M2? I have a friend that reloads for .30-06, and that's currently the most powerful caliber I own (unless 8mm is more powerful).
If the black tip bullets outperform M2 with handloading enough to justify their costs, I wouldn't mine eventually picking some up. The gun I have is a Winchester 670. Are hot reloads even safe to shoot out of this model? The gun's in good shape, but from my understanding, the 670 is an economy model, and I don't want to shoot anything through it that might damage the gun or me.
thanks.