Old Grumpy
Member
First off I am not new to reloading (in general) however I am new to reloading bottleneck rifle rounds.
I am trying to load for my .30-30 and I'm having problems. I decapped and resized my cases without any noticable problems. Next I checked case length and found no problems there. The cases were primed using my Lee Auto Prime and then run through my (new) Lyman "M" die to expand.
I am using Saeco #316 150gr cast Flat Nose Gas Checked bullets. The bullets are sized to 0.311".
When I went to seat the bullets they would slide into the case, some even dropped completely into the case. Those that seated (or at least seemed to seat correctly) were crimped. Being cast bullets they did have a crimp groove but my die (RCBS 14601 FL) must "taper crimp" because the cases were obviously not roll crimped into the groove.
Half of the rounds I crimped did not hold the bullet firmly. I know I must have several problems so where should I start?
Why does it appear the "M" die is over expanding the case? I measured the expander and it measured 0.306" at the start, then a step up to 0.309", and finally a flair. If the inside of the case neck has been sized to 0.306" it should hold a 0.311" bullet but it is not.
Are these dies (RCBS 14601 FL) taper crimp or roll crimp? If they are taper should I seat the bullet above or below the crimp groove? Or do I need to look for a crimp die that applies a roll crimp?
Is it possible the decapping/resizing die is not resizing the case neck?
Was I foolish to think the .30-30 would be an easy round to reload?
Help!
I am trying to load for my .30-30 and I'm having problems. I decapped and resized my cases without any noticable problems. Next I checked case length and found no problems there. The cases were primed using my Lee Auto Prime and then run through my (new) Lyman "M" die to expand.
I am using Saeco #316 150gr cast Flat Nose Gas Checked bullets. The bullets are sized to 0.311".
When I went to seat the bullets they would slide into the case, some even dropped completely into the case. Those that seated (or at least seemed to seat correctly) were crimped. Being cast bullets they did have a crimp groove but my die (RCBS 14601 FL) must "taper crimp" because the cases were obviously not roll crimped into the groove.
Half of the rounds I crimped did not hold the bullet firmly. I know I must have several problems so where should I start?
Why does it appear the "M" die is over expanding the case? I measured the expander and it measured 0.306" at the start, then a step up to 0.309", and finally a flair. If the inside of the case neck has been sized to 0.306" it should hold a 0.311" bullet but it is not.
Are these dies (RCBS 14601 FL) taper crimp or roll crimp? If they are taper should I seat the bullet above or below the crimp groove? Or do I need to look for a crimp die that applies a roll crimp?
Is it possible the decapping/resizing die is not resizing the case neck?
Was I foolish to think the .30-30 would be an easy round to reload?
Help!