300 winmag has recoil?

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Bought my first firearm, it's a 300 win mag. Can I handle this?
Hello, I don't know much about firearms. Basically I just saw the movie shooter and wanted a sniper rifle. I had some money saved up for a laptop, but I used it on a rifle instead. I got a savage 110fp in 300 win mag, because I wanted a "big and powerful" gun.

http://savagearms.com/110fp.htm

about 600 out the door. So after buying it I started looking online about the 300 win mag and apparently it has a lot of recoil. Do you think I should be worried? I'm 5' 10" and about 135 lbs. Never fired a gun before, except an airsoft gun. And none of my friends or anyone else I know owns rifles.

So what should I do? just hold it tight in my shoulder and it shouldn't be too bad right? I don't wanna look like a noob at the range.
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Oh and i bought the gun a few days after I turned 18. Not even sure how to put a scope or bases on it, or how to know what bases to get etc.
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wow, after all these answers...i'm getting a bit scared here, it is that bad huh? well if anyone wants to buy it for 600 let me know. And I refuse to be babied by the people at the range and look stupid!
 
Basically I just saw the movie shooter and wanted a sniper rifle.

Officially the dumbest reason to buy a gun ever :scrutiny:

I seriously hope this idiot videotapes his maiden voyage and posts it on YouTube, I'm going to laugh like a hyena when the scope on his tacticool 'sniper rifle' (as seen in "Shooter" :rolleyes:) knocks a divot in his head big enough to park a Buick in. I hate to sound like a prick, but idiots like this that have zero clue yet run out and buy a gun because they saw it in a movie are just accidents waiting to happen. Thank God that those FN rifles are so damn expensive or every 18yr old Halo playing nerd would have one and the AD's and other accidents would soon follow :banghead:
 
I have fired a Ruger No. 1 in 300 Win Mag and the recoil is noticeable.

Furthermore, I had the sense not to choose that rifle as the first one to fire. I started smaller.
Know what I mean?
 
Furthermore, I had the sense not to choose that rifle as the first one to fire. I started smaller.
Know what I mean?

Exactly. This kid needs to get a .22 and learn how to shoot and learn about guns, not running out and buying something to emulate his movie heros
 
Oh, lay off the poor kid. I'll bet there's at least one guy here that bought his first gun after seeing "Dirty Harry", but stuck with it and turned into a good shooter and all-around nice guy.

I swear, if the standard for 18 year olds was this high when we were that age, we'd never have attempted to do anything new.
 
this dummy said:
And I refuse to be babied by the people at the range and look stupid!
Too late for that one!

.38 Special, you have a point, but then again, the kid goes out and buys a .300 Magnum, and then goes on the internet after the fact and asks if it has a significant recoil.
I'm just saying, he's obviously not the brightest crayon in the box.
 
Oh, lay off the poor kid. I'll bet there's at least one guy here that bought his first gun after seeing "Dirty Harry", but stuck with it and turned into a good shooter and all-around nice guy.

Nope, still haven't bought a S&W M29 yet either. I would agree that many people here did though, you'll recognize them because they almost hit their kneecaps with the gun when they pull the trigger on an empty chamber ;)
 
I think it is fine to be interested in guns and shooting from watching movies and playing video games, but it should be Learn/Research first, buy second.

It doesn't matter WHY a person who has never shot a gun before gets a 300 winmag, it is always going to be one heck of a wakeup call when they touch that thing off.
 
There's a big difference between ignorance and stupidity. He's certainly demonstrated a good bit of the former. The latter is open to debate, and I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. And as always, ignorance is something that A) we all suffer from, and B) curable.
 
Oh you think that one's funny, Check out this reply from an "expert"

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Hunting-1633/7-62x39-vs-30.htm

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I plan to buy an inexpensive rifle to hunt whitetail deer. I usually hunt in wooded areas and woodlots with most shots being short range, is the 7.62 good enough to be a 150 yard and less rifle for whitetail or should I get a 30:30.

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Hello, Davy. I just now found your question in my inbox from nearly two months ago. I'm not sure how I missed it, but I apologize. I'm sure you've already determined the answer to your question, but I'll take a shot at it anyway.

The 39mm is so ballistically similar to the 30-30 that it really comes down to personal preference inside 150 yards. I have used both guns and they both perform well. In fact, the 30-30 is my primary deer hunting rifle. With either gun, I limit my shots to 125 yards or less.

Many people will tell you that the 7.62x39mm and the .30-.30 are pretty much the same. This isn't entirely true. The 7.62 is designed for bullets shooting 120 grains of powder. The 30-30, of course, for 150 grains of powder. Of course, with those bullets, the 7.62 is going to carry more velocity (2350 fps for the 7.62 and 2100 fps for the 30-30; in my opinion, that isn't enough to matter).

My experience with these two rifles is this: The accuracy isn't going to differ enough to make a difference at short distances. . . And since the 30-30 offers me just a bit more power, I prefer the 30-30 over the 7.62x39mm. That's my opinion, and as I said at the top, they're so similar that it basically comes down to personal preference.

If you've got a few minutes to do some research, go to Google and type in 7.62x39 vs. 30-30 and do a search and you'll find plenty of opinions from very knowledgeable people.

Have a good day,

BenG.
 
This reminds me of a story.

A friend of mine in my hometown had a Raging Bull in .454. A friend of his really liked it, so he got his own. He fired it one time. Got seven stitches in his forehead, and sold it for a $200 loss at a pawn shop on his way home from the hospital.
 
Officially the dumbest reason to buy a gun ever

I seriously hope this idiot videotapes his maiden voyage and posts it on YouTube, I'm going to laugh like a hyena when the scope on his tacticool 'sniper rifle' (as seen in "Shooter" ) knocks a divot in his head big enough to park a Buick in. I hate to sound like a prick, but idiots like this that have zero clue yet run out and buy a gun because they saw it in a movie are just accidents waiting to happen. Thank God that those FN rifles are so damn expensive or every 18yr old Halo playing nerd would have one and the AD's and other accidents would soon follow

Is this any way to introduce a new shooter and potential RKBA ally? We're all young and stupid at least once. My first gun was a 91/30 because I liked Enemy At the Gates. I would be more than happy to have someone as interested in shooting as he does. He seems to have his heart in the right place if he begins to take at least a curious interest in shooting.
 
Fella's;

If you think the first poster is ignorant/stupid, at least he didn't do like waay too many young testosterone-laden males do these days.

He didn't view Mission (very) Impossible , StarBoyz, etc., & then go out & buy the Yamaha R1, Suzuki GSX1000, or Kawasaki ZX10. Been far too many corpses produced that way.

So, as suggested earlier, lets' cut some slack he's at least making an attempt to learn.

900F
 
Is this any way to introduce a new shooter and potential RKBA ally? We're all young and stupid at least once. My first gun was a 91/30 because I liked Enemy At the Gates. I would be more than happy to have someone as interested in shooting as he does. He seems to have his heart in the right place if he begins to take at least a curious interest in shooting.

Was that the first gun you bought or the first gun you shot? Some newbie who ends up accidentally shooting someone because he's trying to emulate stuff he sees in movies is a hazard to himself, to others, and to the RKBA cause. If you want to learn how to drive fast go to Bondurant, not to the movies to see "Speed Racer" :scrutiny: This kid went from airsoft to buying a 'sniper rifle', people that jump into gun ownership to be 'cool' instead of 'good' scare the piss out of me :banghead: I'm a huge advocate of teaching people to shoot properly and we expense out thousands of dollars worth of ammo each year to do so at demo shoots and other events, but I've seen way too many people swinging real guns around like the airsoft guns they are familiar with. Guns aren't toys or movie souvenirs and people that view them as such need to re-evaluate their shooting skills. I understand the interest generated by seeing a particular gun in a movie. Hell, I was intrigued by the idea of getting a PU after seeing "Enemy At The Gates" as well, but I didn't run out an buy one on account of it. I've been shooting since I was a kid, if I went out and bought something like that on a whim it wouldn't endanger anyone. This guy is jumping into shooting blindly and with both feet because he watched a movie, not exactly the best source for information or safe gun handling.
 
He didn't view Mission (very) Impossible , StarBoyz, etc., & then go out & buy the Yamaha R1, Suzuki GSX1000, or Kawasaki ZX10. Been far too many corpses produced that way.

Amen to that, seen way to many 'squids' eat pavement that way. I worked with a guy like that, he traded in his 600cc CBR for a 'Busa. I told him to keep both wheels on the ground and not try to ride it like his Honda, idiot pulled a wheelie soon after picking it up and almost wrecked. A couple weeks later his friend (an amateur at best) hit a curb with it and flew into a wall and spent the next three weeks in ICU. Once again, the movie-driven impulse buy problem is evident. This kid with the 300WM is no different than the kid that got his M endorsement on a Vespa and wants to buy a GSXR literbike, he's going to hurt himself and others because he's operating something that exceeds his current skill level. 300WM's kick harder and shoot further than an airsoft peashooter, sounds like this kid didn't do any homework on this, just ran off and plunked down his money so he could be like his hero in 'Shooter' :rolleyes:
 
What until he goes to buy the ammunition at $30.00 for twenty rounds,,,,,,,,

Won't be a problem, the guy that buys the gun from the kid later will save enough $$$ on the deal to buy a lot of $30/box ammo and will already have the 19 leftover rounds that came with the gun as well :p
 
@ All

It's not about denying the young fellow a 300 Win Mag outright, it's about the sequence of events that lead up to him firing it.

I'm taking a young couple to the range tomorrow. They have never fired any kind of firearm before. I am going to start them on a .22 benchrest rifle at 25 yards. Then we can move up to .38 lever action.
There is a kind of progression, based on learning, experience and observation of the couple. Although I don't have the facility to do so, I wouldn't start these two on a 300 Win Mag even if it was their rifle.

The guy who bought the 300 Win Mag rifle may in fact be a natural shooter, a marksman in the making. But the fact is, that will be his first use of any firearm.
In my opinion, a more prudent option would be for him to use somebody else's .22LR or .223 first. Then he can get a good shooting position, proper trigger squeeze and so forth. Once he has done that, he can increase the range at which he shoots and then move up to 300 Win Mag.
The real danger at the moment is that he sets up a watermelon at 200 yards and takes his first shot at that, with a 300 Win Mag.
 
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