.308 Winchester load development great velocity with CFE 223

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My only suggestion is be careful. It will spike pressure suddenly.
Loads worked up at 40 degrees will blow primers at 100 degrees.
I went back to IMR 4064 because of this.
 
About the same burn rate as Varget, but much higher powder load density due to being a ball powder. But like Bfh said, watch for pressure spikes when the temp goes up.
 
About the same burn rate as Varget, but much higher powder load density due to being a ball powder. But like Bfh said, watch for pressure spikes when the temp goes up.
It was about 80 degrees Tuesday when I shot these. I can tell you I shot it when it was cold as hell outside and velocities were about the same. at 46.0 gr I am 1.5 grains below the max charge in Hornady manual. I am not sure I want to go up any higher as how much velocity is normal for a 168 gr bullet? Im at 2858 and that seems to me to be pushing the envelope. Hodgdon says starting load is 46.6gr and max load is 49.0gr which should deliver 2828fps. they are testing with a 1:12 24" barrel and I am running a 1:10 24" barrel. I am using same primers they tested with Fed 210M.

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Dom
 
It gives great accuracy and higher velocity than most powders do in 308.
The only reason I don't use it is I shoot my rifle in Oklahoma summer heat and over Christmas when I visit family in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Temp swings from 100+ to -20 don't work well with it.
 
CFE usually turns 100 fps more than aby other powder out of my 308's.It's a great powder to load because of the ball granulation.I can stay right on the money with my powder measure,so it saves a lot of time weighing each charge.It usually isn't quite as accurate as Varget,but I have had spectacular accuracy out of my 22-250 using CFE.My best shooting 308 usually shoots Varget in the .5's or .6's and CFE in the .7's or .8's.As far as being temperature sensitive,I haven't had any problems,and here in WV,it's not unusual to shoot in temps ranging from the 20's to triple digits.It's a great powder,and it's the second most popular powder I use.
 
It was about 80 degrees Tuesday when I shot these. I can tell you I shot it when it was cold as hell outside and velocities were about the same. at 46.0 gr I am 1.5 grains below the max charge in Hornady manual. I am not sure I want to go up any higher as how much velocity is normal for a 168 gr bullet? Im at 2858 and that seems to me to be pushing the envelope. Hodgdon says starting load is 46.6gr and max load is 49.0gr which should deliver 2828fps. they are testing with a 1:12 24" barrel and I am running a 1:10 24" barrel. I am using same primers they tested with Fed 210M.

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Dom

Are we talking 30-40 degrees colder when you did the initial run? 80 isnt bad, but I still wouldnt leave my rifle and ammo sit in the sun on a 80 degree day and expect to not be over pressure.
What cases are you using? LC or commercial?
I dont trust my Hornady manuals for max charge to be honest. They are a guideline for me. Every single load Ive done for rifle in the last 5 years has been very close to or above Hornady book max. I actually prefer the Lyman and Hodgdon data as its more realistic, at least for me.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but barrel twist rates shouldnt effect velocities much, if at all.
As far as you going too fast for a 168 at 46gr? Hell, Id push it a little more. You might have another node around 48gr with a book max of 49gr of CFE223. The only concern Id have with that is if you are using LC cases. Load em up, shoot carefully, check for pressure signs, and if thats all good, are you getting an accurate load at the higher velocities? If you are, then you are winning the reloading game, because you have a safe, accurate, fast load, with the order of importance being in that order as well.
 
it was probably 30-40 degrees cooler Here is the original time I shot CFE 223 and I freaked out when I saw the velocities.

 
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