Assuming that picture is of the gun you are shooting .327 out of, have you shot .357 mag out of a similar firearm with bigger grips and a longer barrel? I ask because my snubbie .357 sp101 with the boot grip was uncomfortable to shoot .357 mag out of, but now I have a k6s with a slightly larger grip and a 3" barrel and felt recoil is much more tame. I've never shot .327 mag and have no dog in this fight, but a larger grip and longer barrel can make a big difference.
The deal is that, unfortunately, there is always going to be a small minority (very small on this forum) of people who love to tell others why the only guns, calibers, ammo brands, wigits, or thingamajigs worth having are the ones they personally like. Everything else is useless.So what's the deal? Have I maybe only shot weak ammo? Is it because my friend and I are large middle-aged guys who have shot guns a lot? Or am I just out of touch with reality?
Do not confuse that with hearing damage.I have read that in the heat of battle the 357 blast isn't noticed but based on my personal experience I seriously doubt it.
Okay, but who makes a 327 Federal lever gun you would care to own?
I shot some .327 from my 4 inch SP101 today and I have to say that once you get over the blast the recoil itself is noticeably less compared to even 125 grain .357. As I've been saying for years the point to the .32 caliber is reducing recoil to improve your speed and shooting effectiveness concerning smaller, lighter guns.
I challenge anyone to come in here and tell me they shoot .357 or .38 in an SP101 or LCR better than they shoot .327 or .32 Magnum.
I don't think it matters much, whether it's 35K or 45K PSI (btw, not all .327 is going to be right at 45K PSI) you're likely going to be damaging your hearing.As others have pointed out, flash is not the issue. The issue is the significant muzzle blast. Especially out of snub barrels.
IMHO, they should have kept the pressure to that of the 357 and 44 Magnum. Not 10k PSI higher.
Correct. What you don't notice can still hurt you.Do not confuse that with hearing damage.
Not gratuitous at all -- definitely worth seeing!Gratuitous pic of my Single Seven .327
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I have never seen any 327 Federal Magnum load data rated as high as 45K psi. I mostly use Brian Pearce's subsonic load using Power Pistol. That is the only way I would carry my SP101. I used the hotter stuff when I had a Single Seven and always shot poorly with it, probably just me.I don't think it matters much, whether it's 35K or 45K PSI (btw, not all .327 is going to be right at 45K PSI) you're likely going to be damaging your hearing.
This is certainly an area where some .32 H&R Mag +P could be worked on, say 30K PSI max. I think it would be perfect for snub revolvers simply for the reduced recoil.
I have never seen any 327 Federal Magnum load data rated as high as 45K psi.
In the old days when we didn't know better we did not use ear protection and fired 38 Special, 9 mm and 45 ACP all day long without too much discomfort. Then one day I fired my first 357 Magnum w/o ear protection. I fired it ONCE. The experience was not just unpleasant, it was painful. After that I only fired 357 with a rag wrapped around my head (over my ears), toilet paper ear plugs or ear plugs made from empty 38 cases filled with cotton or toilet paper but never again w/o something as ear protection.
I have read that in the heat of battle the 357 blast isn't noticed but based on my personal experience I seriously doubt it. I use +P 38 Sp. loads in my 357 EDC revolver for that reason. If the 327 is the same I have no use for it as an EDC round.
My Lyman 49th does not include 327 Federal at all. I don't recall ever loading this cartridge with jacketed bullets. I have plenty of Gold Dot ammo for that. 12.0 gr AA#9 with 100 gr lead is as high as I have gone.Lyman 50th Edition, page 394-395:
85 gr XTP, 1.450" OAL, A#9, 14.2 gr, 1597 fps, 45,000 psi.
100 gr Speer JHP, 1.465" OAL, A#9, 13.0 gr, 1507 fps, 45,000 psi.
Now you have!
Lyman and Western Powders have several loads over 44,000 psi.
I found .357 mag from a Ruger LCR to be punishing and uncomfortable, but it never made me regret any life choices.
I don't know about that, but I suspect it has some ear killing report.According to the posts, a lot of people seem to feel that 327 magnum has a lot of recoil and "flash".
I had this .357. It was not bad with 125gr JHP Full House rounds. The heavy trigger took a lot of concentration to keep sights on target, but I got to where I shot it well.
My buddy has the same gun in .327Fed. Muzzle blast is worse, but recoil considerably less. Trigger equally bad.
He also has a Single Seven SS 6". It is a joy to shoot and tack driver.