.35 Remington

[gralewaj]

I have an affection for .35 cal rifles, owning a .35 Rem Marlin 336C, a Ruger Frontier in .358 Win, and a Rem 600 in .350 Rem Mag. Previous owner of a Browning 71 in .348 Win... (still looking for a Win Deluxe 71)

I love that they can all be loaded down with .357 cast pistol bullets and anyone can shoot them. TrailBoss has been the most fun.

That take down 14/141 is awesome, I've never seen that before.

Hornady flex tip ammo in .35 Rem made my 336 a 200 yd rifle. Maybe you can find reloading specs or even factory ammo. Unsure of the bullet weight, but had way less drop than 200gr CoreLokt

 

[Rubone]

I have an affection for .35 cal rifles, owning a .35 Rem Marlin 336C, a Ruger Frontier in .358 Win, and a Rem 600 in .350 Rem Mag. Previous owner of a Browning 71 in .348 Win... (still looking for a Win Deluxe 71)

I love that they can all be loaded down with .357 cast pistol bullets and anyone can shoot them. TrailBoss has been the most fun.

That take down 14/141 is awesome, I've never seen that before.

Hornady flex tip ammo in .35 Rem made my 336 a 200 yd rifle. Maybe you can find reloading specs or even factory ammo. Unsure of the bullet weight, but had way less drop than 200gr CoreLokt

The Hornady is also 200gr.

 

[herrwalther]

Hornady flex tip ammo in .35 Rem made my 336 a 200 yd rifle. Maybe you can find reloading specs or even factory ammo. Unsure of the bullet weight, but had way less drop than 200gr CoreLokt

200gr FTX. I use the same bullet in my 35Rem recipes. Being a pointed bullet gives it a better BC than round nose Core-Lokt (.300 vs .192). But the soft rubber point makes it safe for tubular magazines.

 

[Buck13]

I have an affection for .35 cal rifles, owning a .35 Rem Marlin 336C, a Ruger Frontier in .358 Win, and a Rem 600 in .350 Rem Mag. Previous owner of a Browning 71 in .348 Win... (still looking for a Win Deluxe 71)

I love that they can all be loaded down with .357 cast pistol bullets and anyone can shoot them. TrailBoss has been the most fun.

That take down 14/141 is awesome, I've never seen that before.

Hornady flex tip ammo in .35 Rem made my 336 a 200 yd rifle. Maybe you can find reloading specs or even factory ammo. Unsure of the bullet weight, but had way less drop than 200gr CoreLokt

There's talk of Trail Boss not being in production for the foreseeable future, unfortunately. I don't have enough to make much rifle ammo.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/powders.910953/page-2#post-12422888

Not all .35 Rems needs to use flat-tipped bullets or the rubber ones. See that spiral on the mag tube in the photo of the Remington pump? I believe that keeps the cartridges canted in the tube so the point of one doesn't bear on the primer of the next. (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong!) And the Model 8 has a box mag, so no problem there. So these could use spitzers if you could find them, but even so, they don't start out very fast and the BCs aren't that great, so not what I'd call flat-shooting. But every little bit helps!

 

[SwampWolf]

(still looking for a Win Deluxe 71)

Me too...

 

[Bcwitt]

The Rossi I have has the rather silly 24" octagonal barrel. It's not the best balanced rifle in town. I'd have preferred the 20" round barrel, but that was what was available at the time. It also has an aftermarket aperature sight, which is nice except that it shoots high with anything over 125 grain bullets. I need to get a taller front sight and swap it, or get a smith to do it, and have been putting that off for a long time.

You could have him chop 4" off while you are @ it.

 

[someguy2800]

Did you crimp them in the lower or upper crimp groove? Or did you have the newer ones that only have the upper (deeper seating) groove?

I don’t crimp bottleneck cartridges

 

[someguy2800]

Thanks for the tip.

Seems like the scarcity of brass argues against the autoloaders. Better to have a lever or pump and eject the brass carefully into a container, rather than have it thrown behind the line and stepped on by some oaf!

A note on that for the Remington 141 as well. They don’t have a whole lot of mechanical advantage and due to the design you kind of have operate one quickly with one quick motion to eject your brass. It’s difficult to only open the bolt half way and catch the spent case like you can with a lever action. It’s kind of like a winchester model 12 shotgun, you have to cycle it like you mean it. Mine also chews at the extractor groove on the brass a bit, but I don’t know if they all do that.

 

[someguy2800]

That take down 14/141 is awesome, I've never seen that before.

they are actually all takedowns. It’s not a special model. It would actually be impossible to take one apart without splitting it in two because there is no other way to take the bolt out.

This one has the barrel cut down like 6 inches. Back in the 20’s or 30’s Remington made a factory model 14 carbine in this length, but they are now very expensive collectors, so I bought this post war full length rifle for about 1/4 of the price and cut it down. The only reason I have one is because someone posted a picture on here of their carbine and I said wow I have to have one!

 

[bluetopper]

I won’t try and talk you out of getting a 35 Rem because I’ve had too much fun with these. My 336, model 81 and model 8.
I have plenty of components to keep me in ammo probably for the rest of my days

 

[Old Hobo]

I can only add an historic element to this discussion. I'm from Southern Appalachia and many hunters swear by the .35 Remington in a lever rifle. Why? Because the heavier bullet will deal with dear AND a good-sized black bear should the situation manifest itself. It will also drop a razor-back boar -- which sometimes hunts the hunter (they are demons with sharp tusks). The .35 is an old and proven round for hunting in brush or heavy forest, i.e. short range.

There are more modern rounds, so listen to what the above folk have to say. If you are a person who already has one, then reload ammo to save money.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brass+for+.35+remington+"in+stock"+-out&ei=jZo_Y9PJDNaj5NoP9eOUuA4&ved=0ahUKEwiTxJSglM36AhXWEVkFHfUxBecQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=brass+for+.35+remington+"in+stock"+-out&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQAFgAYM0TaAFwAXgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAyAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

 

[Remington1911]

I can only add an historic element to this discussion. I'm from Southern Appalachia and many hunters swear by the .35 Remington in a lever rifle. Why? Because the heavier bullet will deal with dear AND a good-sized black bear should the situation manifest itself. It will also drop a razor-back boar -- which sometimes hunts the hunter (they are demons with sharp tusks). The .35 is an old and proven round for hunting in brush or heavy forest, i.e. short range.

There are more modern rounds, so listen to what the above folk have to say. If you are a person who already has one, then reload ammo to save money.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brass+for+.35+remington+"in+stock"+-out&ei=jZo_Y9PJDNaj5NoP9eOUuA4&ved=0ahUKEwiTxJSglM36AhXWEVkFHfUxBecQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=brass+for+.35+remington+"in+stock"+-out&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsAMyCggAEEcQ1gQQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQAFgAYM0TaAFwAXgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAyAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

Or if you just have a "thing" for older guns....you know you define yourself as a Fudd.

Personally I just can't get excited about anything new, to tell the truth if I was limited to only guns that had come out in the last 30 years I would have another hobby.

 

[NMachine]

I love the .35’s. I have a 336 and an 81. I also have two Whelens. Brass manufacturers still make plenty of 35 Rem cases. The problem is they only tend to make a run every two years. So if you are not planning ahead, you can easily miss the boat.

 

[Old Hobo]

Or if you just have a "thing" for older guns....you know you define yourself as a Fudd.

Personally I just can't get excited about anything new, to tell the truth if I was limited to only guns that had come out in the last 30 years I would have another hobby.

I'm what other folk would call a nostalgia nut. Why? Things were built correctly back then. Machines were made to last. There was an art to the engineering.

Seen some TV shows with the plot of "behind the scenes" or "how things work". Numerous times I see how machines built before the 1930's are not only working, but supporting critical operations / infrastructure operations. The crap being built today is "get-by" / "this will work for a while, then be replaced". I hate that.
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[25-20 WCF]

Change is hard for some folks. Many gun nuts are by definition conservative in nature, and nostalgia sometimes overpowers reason. The thinking man knows that not all current firearms are crap, just like many firearms built 100+ years ago were crap. It’s a different world today no doubt, and if some (myself included) prefer firearms built prior to 1980 more power to them. But the sky isn’t falling, there is room for diverse tastes, the bottom line is that firearm ownership is at an all-time high - whatever brings new gun owners into the fold is a good thing for all of us. Think about that the next time you want to rant about the old days.




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[Rodfac]

.35 Remington: Great cartridge for east of the Rockies deer and black bear. 200 gr soft nose bullets at 2200 fps are formidable inside say 180 yards from an accurate rifle handled by steady, competent hands. In my case, here in KY where shots are seldom over 150 yds, it's a mainstay for me on opening day. Rifle = Marlin's famous 336 in .35 Remington scoped with a 2.5x Weaver made back in the '60's.

Bullets: Remington's justifiably famous 200 gr Core-Lokt, or Hornady's 200 gr XTP will both get the job done with any shot through in the boiler room. Too, with correctly sized 200 gr RCBS cast & gas checked flat nose bullets, it's always provided through and through penetration for me when directed to the ribs/shoulders region of our local white tails. This bullet, sized 0.360" & cast from wheel weights, has given me a boat load of 5-shot groups that measured right at 2" or less at 100 yds. The Remington and Hornady jacketed bullets previously mentioned, will do the same....all are outstanding for deer hunting.

Given a choice and available factory loaded ammunition by Remington or Federal, I'd readily pick a .35 Remington model 336 JM Marlin over a .30-30 by any manufacturer....it's just that good. While I've noticed it missing off the shelves for most of the year here in KY, as deer season approaches the green and yellow Remington boxes of .35 Remington reappear at Cabelas and local gun shops.

Reloading is easy so long as you don't set the shoulder back too far, thereby increasing head space. In my practice, I like a round that chambers with just a little resistance, knowing that it's seated firmly against the bolt face when fired. To accomplish this, I back out the sizing die just a bit, till the round feels right when cycled through my Marlin.

Best of luck and BTW, I just finished sighting in my own .35 model 336 Marlin for deer season. Load: Remington's 200 gr RN backed by enough 4895 to give me 2150 fps at the muzzle. (3031 or 748 will duplicate 4895's performance with equal accuracy in my rifle). With this combination I know I'll fill the freezer if I do my part.

Best regards, Rod

 

[ms6852]

I miss my 35 Remington. I gave it to my brother which he sold. Did not get upset with him because he gave me 2 colt pythons . None the less I STILL miss the rifle.

 

[someguy2800]

Just to continue fawning over the 35 Remington, I have guns that I load to +P pressure levels. I have a H&R handi rifle and a magnum research lone eagle pistol. They are both built to handle 60,000 psi cartridges with a .473 bolt face, so I load them both with 358 Yeti load data. The 358 yeti is a hunting cartridge made to go in an AR15 with a special oversize bolt. It’s very similar in size to a 35 rem but slightly shorter and about 2 grains less capacity. I get 2300 fps with a Hornady 200 gr round nose from the 14” pistol and it’s quite a handful. I’ve never chrono’d the handi rifle but it’s probably 2450 or so from a 22” barrel. This is 4 shots from a sandbag at 100 yards

 

[Rubone]

I'm what other folk would call a nostalgia nut. Why? Things were built correctly back then. Machines were made to last. There was an art to the engineering.

Seen some TV shows with the plot of "behind the scenes" or "how things work". Numerous times I see how machines built before the 1930's are not only working, but supporting critical operations / infrastructure operations. The crap being built today is "get-by" / "this will work for a while, then be replaced". I hate that.
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[Old Hobo]

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Thank you soooooo much for that song link! Loved it. Gotta write that singer's name down.

Due to my age (post retirement), I've got I don't even know how many stories about finding old stuff that worked and that are now in my roll-about tool chest (5 ft. tall). All in my family play some musical instrument (important in S.Appalachia). Son and I were trumpet players. Son was in high school; played trumpet in high school band (taught himself to play French horn). We were in some restaurant, and hanging on the wall was a fluglhorn. Got the manager over to our table. "How much for that horn?" Both my son and I could get a clear sound out of it. Got it for $150 or $200 (?). Had it refurbished. He played it in marching band. The fluglhorn has a mellow / sweet / hearty sound. To see it unused stuck to a restaurant wall just killed my heart. Therefore, we resurrected it.

Just like that .32 S&W long "Hand-Eject" revolver I purchased a month ago. Got it for $230. Took it to the range and that puppy built around 1915-ish (?) was as accurate as any revolver I've ever owned. Sweet to shoot. Neglected. Now resurrected. The Almighty's blessings be upon the craftsmen who built this lasting machine of Justice.
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[The Happy Kaboomer]

I absolutely loved my old 35Rem Marlin 336. Phenomenal cartridge.

Have you considered a 350 Ledgend though? Balistics are very close. Plenty of choices of firearms and ammo. Can even use the same bullets.

If you want a 35Rem, you want a 35Rem and the 350L won't scratch that itch. But if you want something that'll do the same thing (except be chambered in a lever action) the 350L is worth a look.

.350 uses .355" dia. bullets.........Same as 9mm........WON"T work with .35 cal bulets.

 

[gotboostvr]

.350 uses .355" dia. bullets.........Same as 9mm........WON"T work with .35 cal bulets.

Except alot of people have been using 358 bullets without issue.

 

[adcoch1]

Just to continue fawning over the 35 Remington, I have guns that I load to +P pressure levels. I have a H&R handi rifle and a magnum research lone eagle pistol. They are both built to handle 60,000 psi cartridges with a .473 bolt face, so I load them both with 358 Yeti load data. The 358 yeti is a hunting cartridge made to go in an AR15 with a special oversize bolt. It’s very similar in size to a 35 rem but slightly shorter and about 2 grains less capacity. I get 2300 fps with a Hornady 200 gr round nose from the 14” pistol and it’s quite a handful. I’ve never chrome’s the handi rifle but it’s probably 2450 or so from a 20” barrel. This is 4 shots from a sandbag at 100 yards

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Gotta build a yeti... That lone eagle is awesome...

If it wasn't for the brass issue I'd have a 336 in 35 rem. I found a nice older one in a local to me gun store. It was costly, but I really wanted it... I have fallen in love with all things 35 cal.

 

[someguy2800]

Gotta build a yeti... That lone eagle is awesome...

If it wasn't for the brass issue I'd have a 336 in 35 rem. I found a nice older one in a local to me gun store. It was costly, but I really wanted it... I have fallen in love with all things 35 cal.

The Yeti is absolutely awesome. It just makes a 1” hole through everything but doesn’t tear everything up like a 300 win mag or something like that. Huge blood trails and shoots good out to about 300. Wounds pretty similar to my 444 but much flatter shooting.

I missed out on a JM 336 in 35 rem for like $350 about 5 years ago and have been kicking myself ever since. Who knew they were going to be $1000 guns.

 

[someguy2800]

Except alot of people have been using 358 bullets without issue.

For awhile KAK was even making a “358 legend” AR barrel with a true 358” bore, but there are so many bullets out now made specifically for 350 legend that I see no point in that. Way better availability of legend bullets than .358 bullets sadly. If we could just get speer to make the 180 gr hot core more than once every 2 years…