.357 Magnum carbine that is not a lever action?
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Jim Watson
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There used to be a great outcry "Bring back the Timberwolf. (Pump action.) but they didn't.
Starter52
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Those bolt action Ruger .357 rifles are nice. Pricey, but everything is pricey nowadays.
chicharrones
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Not sure when these Pedersolis will get made again.
That IMI Timber Wolf looks great! Too bad it's no longer produced and quite pricy on GB.
Bullet Bob
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Wassomotta U, you don't like America (lever actions)?!
Just kidding of course. I was friends with a guy who had a IMI Timberwolf years ago. I love pump action firearms, but that particular one was very problematic.
Just kidding of course. I was friends with a guy who had a IMI Timberwolf years ago. I love pump action firearms, but that particular one was very problematic.
trackskippy
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I had one of the Ruger 77/357's when they first came out. Thought it was a cool little rifle, up until I got it anyway.
Accuracy wise, mine didn't like lead bullets at all. It did best with 125 grain JHP's, and they weren't all that great either.
The bolt knob was tiny, and came real close to hitting the scope when you opened it, which made working it quickly slow and annoying.
The rotary mag worked fine with 357 length rounds, but would rimlock regularly with 38's, which was very annoying, and you had get it out of the gun and fiddle with it to get them unlocked.
I think a decent, well thought out peep would be ideal for the gun over the scope, but the only thing I found available was one from NECG, and it couldn't be mounted where it needed to be mounted, in the rear scope ring mount, because it interfered with the bolt, and up in the next slot, it was to far forward away from your eye. You also couldn't "ghost ring" because it needs the threaded in aperture to hold zero. For what they chare for them they arent worth the money. I ended up sending it back.
Over the years, Ive had this ongoing like/hate sort of thing going on with Ruger in general. I always liked the way their older 77's looked, and thought they were well made, but none of the ones I had really ever shot all that great.
Personally, as far as the 357's, and 44's too for that matter, Id really like to see something like a "workable" Timberwolf come back, but that doesnt seem very likely to happen at this point. Something like one of the smaller, lever action guns, really seems like the best way to go here.
Accuracy wise, mine didn't like lead bullets at all. It did best with 125 grain JHP's, and they weren't all that great either.
The bolt knob was tiny, and came real close to hitting the scope when you opened it, which made working it quickly slow and annoying.
The rotary mag worked fine with 357 length rounds, but would rimlock regularly with 38's, which was very annoying, and you had get it out of the gun and fiddle with it to get them unlocked.
I think a decent, well thought out peep would be ideal for the gun over the scope, but the only thing I found available was one from NECG, and it couldn't be mounted where it needed to be mounted, in the rear scope ring mount, because it interfered with the bolt, and up in the next slot, it was to far forward away from your eye. You also couldn't "ghost ring" because it needs the threaded in aperture to hold zero. For what they chare for them they arent worth the money. I ended up sending it back.
Over the years, Ive had this ongoing like/hate sort of thing going on with Ruger in general. I always liked the way their older 77's looked, and thought they were well made, but none of the ones I had really ever shot all that great.
Personally, as far as the 357's, and 44's too for that matter, Id really like to see something like a "workable" Timberwolf come back, but that doesnt seem very likely to happen at this point. Something like one of the smaller, lever action guns, really seems like the best way to go here.
My Marlin 1894c is fiddly and I get stuck cartridges now & then. I'm having a gunsmith give it a once over as I write this. To me, they just aren't reliable enough. Perhaps it's my specimen; perhaps I should try a Henry. But I wanted to know what else is out there first.
I'm not a Ruger fan either. I can't think of a single gun they make that's better than their competition. SIG, CZ, Tikka, etc. The only Ruger I own is a New Vaquero in .357. They make one of the better SAA clones. And of course to be Mr. Obvious, it's not even one of their designs.
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I have a 77/357 and it shots great. I think I am lucky. And that's the problem with those rifles, some shoot good, others not so much. The are very pricey, which makes the gamble even more of a risk.
I really wish Ruger would make an "American" version of their revolver cartridge rifles. Ruger already has a working magazine, they would just need to focus on the redesign of the rifle. I think they would sell a ton of them.
I really wish Ruger would make an "American" version of their revolver cartridge rifles. Ruger already has a working magazine, they would just need to focus on the redesign of the rifle. I think they would sell a ton of them.
trackskippy
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For some reason, the price of the 77/357's shot up, and like double, in only a few years. I got mine early on, and it was only right around $500.
CraigC
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The new Henry single shots are pretty nice.
Not particular enamored of the .357 but I'd be first in line for a new .44 Timberwolf.
Not particular enamored of the .357 but I'd be first in line for a new .44 Timberwolf.
Ohen Cepel
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Could have the 357 Henry reamed out to 357Max if you want more thump.
gwpercle
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A 357 / 30-30 Handi-Rifle would be nice to have ... I wouldn't mind having one myself !
You could cover a lot of shooting territory with that rig !
Gary
Howland937
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Odd, I don't know how many I've had but had over 20 at the same time years ago. 77/22 Hornet was the most finicky until I figured out the most accurate loads didn't fit the mag. 77's and 77 mk2's, all shot well. Most shot really well.
Never did own the .357 or .44 though.
doubleh
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I bought my Rossi as I though it would be an ideal jeep gun and it is. Trouble Is I can't get into the jeep right now but thart isn't going to last. I had no idea Ruger ever made a 357 rifle but had no interest until recently for one. It looks nice but evidenty is annoying to use according to trackskippy.
Just as a note my Rossi is no record setter with lead bullets. It gets much better with 140 gr. Hornady JHP and close to max loads which removes some of the fun from shooting it. Little light thing gets your attention when you pull the trigger.
Just as a note my Rossi is no record setter with lead bullets. It gets much better with 140 gr. Hornady JHP and close to max loads which removes some of the fun from shooting it. Little light thing gets your attention when you pull the trigger.
dh1633pm
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Nope, not many anything in .357 that’s not a lever. I have a Marlin of course and a low wall In .357. I think a pump would be a nice addition. If someone still made one.
