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4 year old shoots self...but wait

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A 4 year old shot himself with his father's STOLEN gun, and the father was
subsequently arrested on several drug charges, yet MSN only hypes it as a 4 old shooting himself.
No wonder the "low-information" people think all guns are evil.
A 4-year-old Houston boy fatally shot himself with his father's stolen handgun Sunday morning, police say.

Marquiez Deshon Pratt, 21, was asleep on the couch when his son, Jaiden, picked up the gun and shot himself in the stomach, according to a report from the Houston Police Department.

The weapon, a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol, was stolen during a burglary in 2011, according to the police report.

Jaiden was spending the weekend with his father when the incident occurred. The boy's mother dropped him off every Friday and was scheduled to pick him up Sunday at noon, according to the Houston Chronicle.

After the shooting, the elder Pratt ran out of his second-floor apartment with his son in his arms, yelling to his neighbors for help, according to the Houston Chronicle.

When officers arrived, Pratt handed his son over to them and ran back to his apartment.

While some officers pursued Pratt, others performed CPR on the young victim, but the boy was pronounced dead at the scene.

The officers who followed Pratt into his apartment discovered marijuana and crack cocaine along with weighing scales and other items used to sell drugs, according to the police report.

Pratt was arrested and charged with injury to a child by omission and possession of a controlled substance with intent to deliver.

"He's in mourning. He's in pain and feels a lot of self guilt," Sgt. Brian Harris, of the Houston PD's homicide department, told the Houston Chronicle. "He kept saying, 'I messed up. I messed up.'"

Oh yeah, the cops felt bad for the father because he was sorry.
 
Regardless of how it came to be, it's still very tragic for all involved. I hope neither side of our argument exploits this story, or finds anything in it to gloat over.
 
My point is that the "news report" is that the kid shot himself, but no
mention in the lead-in that the gun was stolen, or that the father is obviously a drug dealer.
 
That kid likely never had a chance to succeed. The deck was stacked against him at birth.
 
There have been three similar baby shootings in the K.C. area in the last two or three months.

In all cases, the gun "accidentally" went off by "accident", and shot and / or killed a baby. When he/she supposed picked the unattended gun up off an end table, or out from under a couch cushion.

The last one was a three year old who killed himself when the "unloaded" Glock his father was "cleaning", "accidentally" loaded itself, and fired itself.

I am hard pressed to comprehend how a 3-year old would have big or strong enough hands to load a Glock 17.
Or hold it up in both hands and still pull the trigger?

Another one was a 4 year old who "dropped" a loaded Glock he found in his parents bed, and it "went off" accidentally.
His baby-momma, was out for a few minutes, just making a drug buy for the evening, and the father who owned the gun was in jail.
So, they were not held responsible.

So far as I know, nobody has been charged.

Because they were just " gun accidents" the parents could not have prevented.

rc
 
They are ALREADY exploiting the stories simply by their "reporting" methods.
"INNOCENT CHILD KILLED BY EVIL WEAPON" instead of "DRUG USER /DEALER
PARENTS WITH STOLEN WEAPONS"
 
rcmodel said:
The last one was a three year old who killed himself when the "unloaded" Glock his father was "cleaning"

rc, I'm sure that doesn't make sense to you either.

How does one clean a loaded firearm? I mean, to clean it you have to take it down (remove the slide, remove the bolt, open the cylinder, as it requires), and we're supposed to think you can still fire it like that? Hogwash!

Such "cleaning" would have to be limited to wiping down the gun's exterior, and that's not cleaning. Fondling? Yes. Cleaning? No. What they really mean is that the fondler didn't know what he or she was doing, didn't know how to handle the gun safely, and pulled the trigger.
 
Zactly!

But why are the cops even covering it up when the cops "media spokesperson" is talking to the TV talking heads like the last three I was talking about in the KC metro area??

I got kids I raised who aren't especially into guns anymore who know a 3-year old can't load & shoot themselves with an empty semi-auto pistol they found under the soiled bed clothes!

rc
 
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The police and the media are apparently co-opted by the anti-gun, "Government, please save me from my own stupidity" mass agenda. They find the truth abhorrent.
 
4 year old shoots self...but wait

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A 4 year old shot himself with his father's STOLEN gun, and the father was
subsequently arrested on several drug charges, yet MSN only hypes it as a 4 old shooting himself.

REALLY? The MSN headlines I see here are completely contrary to your claim.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/4-year-old-kills-himself-with-dads-stolen-gun

4-year-old kills himself with dad's stolen gun

The MSN article goes on to say...
The officers who followed Pratt into his apartment discovered marijuana and crack cocaine along with weighing scales and other items used to sell drugs, according to the police report.

Pratt was arrested and charged with injury to a child by omission and possession of a controlled substance with intent to deliver.

Funny thing is you used the same article, left out the title, and ignored the points being made about which you think MSN did wrong.
 
How tragic, the kid never got a chance to grow up to burglarize homes and raise children of his own in a crack den. Let's blame the person who let the burglar steal his gun - and charge him in the child's death.
 
Folks, it's still tragic. Maybe the deck was stacked against the kid, but that doesn't guarantee a losing outcome. I was only active duty for four years, and I saw several guys that came from horrible back grounds make something of themselves. This kid never got that chance because his drug dealer so-called father left a gun where the boy could get to it.

The shot to the stomach is also pretty telling. Unfortunately, that's a good indicator that kid the really did shoot himself. Small children typically lack the strength and hand size to hold a handgun and operate the trigger in normal fashion. Sadly, if they can pick up a handgun, even just barely, they typically grab it with both hands, muzzle toward self, and have enough strength to pull the trigger with the use of both thumbs. Gunshot to the abdomen is the typical result.
 
I saw the story on KHOU the other evening. The big part of the story was about a 4 year old child shooting himself. As a segue, the anchor mentioned "Police officers said the gun was stolen. Moving on to other stories...." Very little mention was made of the stolen gun angle. It was mentioned then it was gone. Should have been the lead-in in my opinion.
 
Sounds to me like the media is telling the truth, but putting the facts in an order that fits their agenda. If the headlines read "Irresponsible Drug Dealer Leaves a Loaded Stolen Gun Unattended, Child Shot Himself" they would be focusing on the thug. But since they lead with "4 Year Old Killed Himself With Dad's Stolen Gun" the fact that he was not a responsible adult, and certainly was not worthy of the title DAD, the media is pushing the "guns kill kids" agenda.
 
They put several felony charges on this guy but somehow or another this 20 year old bonded out.
I wonder where the money came from?
 
What bugs me is that the parents aren't charged with reckless endangerment and manslaughter for not putting the gun in a place the little one couldn't get to..
 
Courts are too quick to hand out joint custody before checking out both parents. But that's the society we live in, fast food, Fast justice. No time or money to investigate these things anymore. And the way it's going things will only get worse.
 
We've learned all we're going to from this thread, debating it further kind of puts us in a bad light, guys.

Lesson - keep your guns (even stolen ones.. sigh) inaccessible from toddlers and children too young to learn about gun safety. (Once they reach a certain age and maturity, it's the parent's prerogative and legality in your area)
 
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