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I just bought a lee 44 mag 3 die set to start reloading for my 1894 Marlin. Do I need to buy a lee factory crimp die. I've always crimp my rifle ammo. I'm loading Hornady XTP 240 GR Pills thanks for any information.
 
The roll crimp that is most likely included with your die set will be fine. I also load for an 1894 (.41MAG...) and that's all I ever use.

What kind of powders were you thinking of using?
 
The roll crimp that is most likely included with your die set will be fine. I also load for an 1894 (.41MAG...) and that's all I ever use.

What kind of powders were you thinking of using?
Well I've only got H110 right now. I can get I think it's IMR 4227 I've also got lil gun but don't see it listed. You've got a 41 mag that's Awesome
 
Well I've only got H110 right now. I can get I think it's IMR 4227 I've also got lil gun but don't see it listed. You've got a 41 mag that's Awesome

I was lucky... I caught them right when they kicked out the FG's. I wish I would have bought 10 of them... I could retire.

That H110 needs not only a Magnum primer, but a good roll crimp... it should look like this...

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Those were done with my 30 year old RCBS set.

IMR4227 is a good powder, it's my favorite flavor to load for the Marlin... it does excellent with the long barrel, and doesn't require Magnum primers. It also goes well with a nice Pilsner...

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I was lucky... I caught them right when they kicked out the FG's. I wish I would have bought 10 of them... I could retire.

That H110 needs not only a Magnum primer, but a good roll crimp... it should look like this...

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Those were done with my 30 year old RCBS set.

IMR4227 is a good powder, it's my favorite flavor to load for the Marlin... it does excellent with the long barrel, and doesn't require Magnum primers. It also goes well with a nice Pilsner...

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Can I achieve this with the die set I bought?
 
Looks like I will go back and get the IMR 4227 I knew I should have got that also lol. Hey them look good. Now if I can only find primers

Don't misunderstand me... H110 will do dandy in that rifle barrel, and I'm sure will pair well with those XTP's!
 
Can I achieve this with the die set I bought?

What dies did you buy? Edit... you said Lee.

Yes, it should have a roll crimp built into the seating die.

I concur! But... I prefer to crimp separately from seating so I use the Lee FCD for .44magnum (which does a fine roll crimp!). If you are working on a SS press, your 3-die set will be fine since you change dies on every step... to crimp separately, simply keep the seating die screwed out far enough so it does not crimp at all and seat your bullets. Then, in the next step, back out the seating plug so it does not make contact and screw the seating die in far enough to give the amount of crimp desired. Lee's set-up instructions work pretty well, but you will have to adjust to your taste.

In my case, using a turret press, I use the seating die to seat-only, with no crimp, and then the FCD to put a nice medium to heavy crimp on my coated LSWC bullets. No adjusting between steps this way. The turret just rotates to put the next die over the cartridge and you keep moving.

Either way, you will produce fine ammo!
 
I concur! But... I prefer to crimp separately from seating so I use the Lee FCD for .44magnum (which does a fine roll crimp!). If you are working on a SS press, your 3-die set will be fine since you change dies on every step... to crimp separately, simply keep the seating die screwed out far enough so it does not crimp at all and seat your bullets. Then, in the next step, back out the seating plug so it does not make contact and screw the seating die in far enough to give the amount of crimp desired. Lee's set-up instructions work pretty well, but you will have to adjust to your taste.

In my case, using a turret press, I use the seating die to seat-only, with no crimp, and then the FCD to put a nice medium to heavy crimp on my coated LSWC bullets. No adjusting between steps this way. The turret just rotates to put the next die over the cartridge and you keep moving.

Either way, you will produce fine ammo!
Yes sir I have a SSP looking to get a turret press one day. Thanks for the information
 
I prefer to crimp in a separate step, so yes, I would buy a separate roll crimp die.
With slow burning magnum powders you'll want a good crimp. Also, you're loading them in a tubular magazine, another reason for a good crimp.

You can do it with the seating die. I did that for a while. But like I said, I prefer it to be its own step. Just my preferred way.
 
Don't misunderstand me... H110 will do dandy in that rifle barrel, and I'm sure will pair well with those XTP's!
No i didn't. But I should have got it just because they had it. Powders are hard to find around here.
 
Well doesn't look like ill be reloading the 44 mag. I can't find primers. I've never bought off of gun broker looks like its all bidding wars.
 
I had a hard time getting IMR4227 to shoot well but playing with crimp I got this top left group today. I took the advice on here and gave it a good roll crimp.
 

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One of the keys to IMR4227 is a full charge... not necessarily compressed, but a full case, and a good roller. It cleans up very well, and as I mentioned, I've seen some very good accuracy out of it.
 
You SHOULD reload .44magnum, for both maximum performance, and economy— or just to tailor the load to your gun!
 
My Henry likes 240g projectiles over H110 and like everyone is saying, they do need a sturdy crimp. Like some are saying, I like the Lee FCD for that job and that's how I currently do it.

4227 is defionitely an accurate powder in 44 mag, I've had great luck with loads in that powder in both a lever action and revolver, accurate stuff. I tend to run it near max. With 240g XTPs, Hornady lists 20.7 to 24.8g max. I load mine at 22g.
 
I have been reloading 44 Magnum for a very long time. I tried an FCD once, out of curiosity and it ruined my perfectly sized 44 Magnum cast bullet loads. It now resides in a landfill somewhere in So. Oregon. I started with readjusting the standard seating crimping die but I soon purchased a second seating/crimping die just for convenience. All 5 of my 44 Magnums got roll crimped ammo and later I got a Redding Profile Crimp die and then a Lee collet crimp die. The profile and collet crimps work quite well.

I only used H110/W296 for a short time, not really versatile, just full magnum loads. I soon went to Unique, Blue Dot and AA #9. Later for my heavy magnum loads I started using WC820 (a bit faster, more versatile than H110).

Learn to adjust your dies and the FCD is not necessary...
 
I have been reloading 44 Magnum for a very long time. I tried an FCD once, out of curiosity and it ruined my perfectly sized 44 Magnum cast bullet loads. It now resides in a landfill somewhere in So. Oregon. I started with readjusting the standard seating crimping die but I soon purchased a second seating/crimping die just for convenience. All 5 of my 44 Magnums got roll crimped ammo and later I got a Redding Profile Crimp die and then a Lee collet crimp die. The profile and collet crimps work quite well.

I only used H110/W296 for a short time, not really versatile, just full magnum loads. I soon went to Unique, Blue Dot and AA #9. Later for my heavy magnum loads I started using WC820 (a bit faster, more versatile than H110).

Learn to adjust your dies and the FCD is not necessary...

You're right about the FCD resizing lead, so I have a Dillon crimp die that I use for lead projectiles. I only use the Lee FCD for FMJ loads. Personally, I much prefer a separate seating and crimp function, but that's just me.
 
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