44 mag reloads
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Well I found some winchester LPP the box says for Standard or Magnum pistol load's
They guy at the store told my they would work fine for Magnum loads so I bought what he would let me have 200 primers.
Now!! Will this work with H-110 powder
They guy at the store told my they would work fine for Magnum loads so I bought what he would let me have 200 primers.
Now!! Will this work with H-110 powder
Lennyjoe
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Yes
illinoisburt
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The standard pistol FCD from Lee is a roll crimp with a bulge buster ring to iron out the casing. Works great with jacketed bullets and is a good tool to ensure consistent ammo that feeds in any gun, though generally I don't feel any benefit over the standard seating/crimping die.
There is however a separate 44 mag Lee FCD made for rifle rounds which is a collet crimper. That one will give a nice consistence crimp as a separate step and won't resize your case or bullet.
I went ahead and ordered me one. Got it off ebay for 17$. Im hoping I can get a good load worked up for it this weekend. Got a hunt coming up soon. Be nice to have this marlin ready for them long hikes in. Thanks for the information.
EccentricInTexas
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I like the factory crimp die for Rifle rounds but the roll crimp works for my 44 Mag just fine. I am using older RCBS dies. The Factory Crimp die really shines when you are neck sizing rifle rounds.
no.5enfield
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I've seen a lot of people say that h110 needs magnum primers, but hodgon calls for LP on their website. I use magnums with it, but stick with starting loads just in case that bumps pressure.
Charlie98
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Hodgdon specifies 'Winchester LP,' which is a standard or Magnum primer (Winchester's designation.) H110/W296 is a ball powder, to ensure reliable ignition of big charges of them, it's smart to use Magnum primers, particularly for cold weather, etc., same-same with rifle ball powders.
no.5enfield
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Glad to hear I wasn't playing a dangerous game by using magnums then.
I have been reloading since 1969, and never needed to post crimp resize any cartridge, or "bulge bust" a finished handload. I have been reloading semi-autos for only 22 years and have never needed to post crimp size any handloads. My handloads chamber/feed 99.9%, both revolver and semi-auto (4 semi-auto calibers). Perhaps I know how to adjust my dies so I don't bulge any cases...
My 44 Magnums (5) get a roll crimp, Redding Profile crimp, or Lee collet crimp...
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illinoisburt
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As I said I've never seen a need for it personally, but obviously someone thought it was important enough to design a die for it decades ago. I get the impression these days this issue is more one of starting with bulged cases from unsupported ramp pistols which are going though a progressive and may not consistently get a full length sizing down to the base, or the use of oversized coated/plated bullets.
I'm a lever action guy. Idk why I love the Marlins so much, guess it's just what I was raised on. I have been loading for my 3030 336 and look forward to the 44 mag. Once I get that down I'll move on to my 45/70 now that gun just feels good and points really well. Got Alot of projects going on. Just bought 15 Acer's and building my new home soon. I will have my own 150 yard shooting range. Right now I'm driving 1.5 hrs just to shoot. Can't wait to be able to load up some rounds and go outside to test. When I'm ready for the 45/70 I'm sure I'll be asking questions. I want to thank all of you for your knowledge and sharing information. It's truly appreciated. Ricky
Typetwelve
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100%. Winchester "standard or magnum" LPP are the only primers I currently use for H110 and they work perfectly.
In my experience and opinion, using an FCD is to cover up mistakes (poor reloading techniques/methods). If a cartridge doesn't fit any gun I own I will find out why, and remedy the situation. In all my reloading I have found only one gun that was a problem; a new 9mm pistol that has a chamber .008" shallower than my other 3 pistols, so I had to change my techniques, my handloads. Any other reason for a round not chambering would be my fault, either poor choice of components or sloppy reloading, bulging cases. I may have reloaded "Glocked" cases as I have purchased a lot of "once fired" brass and every case that was full length sized chambered OK. The crimping feature on an FCD is OK, but also being a post crimping, full length resizing die is just a band aid/cover up...
Personally I don't care what tools any reloader uses, I just think some of the newer reloader when reading about the use of an FCD as the best thing to come along since smokeless powder, will take that short cut rather than learn more about reloading (I trained apprentices for about 14-15 years and know how easily it is to get skewed info that confuses the student or sends him down a wrong path)...
Toprudder
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This. ^^^^^
The collet crimper is all I use to crimp with on the magnum handgun calibers. One advantage with it, the trim length is not as critical as it is with a regular roll crimp die.
I still use the FCD for sizing brass, and use the regular size die to size only the portion of the case where the bullet seats.
Reeferman
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The only reasons I use a FCD is I like the crimp it does, the ease of setting up crimp and I seat and crimp in two stations plus the FCD is a whole lot cheaper and easier to get where I’m at. I’ve never had the crimp ring touch a case except for the case mouth if it has a large bell on it. For over sized lead bullets for the couple of calibers that I use them for I knocked the ring out and have never had a cartridge not fit the cylinder.
I’ve loaded thousands of cartridges with the supplied seat/crimp die but choose to do it in separate steps. Not saying it’s better or worse just different and have found no difference in quality of loaded rounds.
I’ve looked at what Redding has to offer but for the 4 to 5 times the cost to get one where I live that’s just not going to happen.
I’ve loaded thousands of cartridges with the supplied seat/crimp die but choose to do it in separate steps. Not saying it’s better or worse just different and have found no difference in quality of loaded rounds.
I’ve looked at what Redding has to offer but for the 4 to 5 times the cost to get one where I live that’s just not going to happen.
I agree with Lennyjoe (above), I started out crimping with the seating die but didn't like how that was going. I picked up a Lee Factory Crimp die and separated the steps. For me, the consistency of seating depth was a lot better doing it this way. Love H110 for 44 mag.
Dudedog
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There is more than one type of Lee FCD,
Concerning the kind with the carbide size ring in the base people tend to like them or hate them, does not seem to be much middle ground.
You do not have to have one to load good ammo, and if you have one and like to use it that does not mean you are using it to "cover up mistakes" or don't know what you are doing.
I like them and use them for some things, some things I don't.
Hopefully the thread won't get sidetracked with a FCD battle.
Concerning the kind with the carbide size ring in the base people tend to like them or hate them, does not seem to be much middle ground.
You do not have to have one to load good ammo, and if you have one and like to use it that does not mean you are using it to "cover up mistakes" or don't know what you are doing.
I like them and use them for some things, some things I don't.
Hopefully the thread won't get sidetracked with a FCD battle.
Toprudder
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Yes, more than one Lee crimp die.
For handgun calibers, there is the carbide FCD, and there is the collet crimp die without a carbide ring. They only make the collet crimper for the magnum handgun calibers.
For the rifle calibers, there is only one crimper, the FCD, that is a collet crimper without a carbide ring.
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