$600 Mosin Nagants and other high priced Pawn Shop guns

[Rob62]

Today while perusing the shelves of a local Pawn Shop I found a Mosin Nagant carbine who’s price tag caught my eye. At first I thought, wow, a good price on this classic rifle.

Then confusion started creeping into my mind as the price tag that I thought I saw said $60.00, actually said $600.00! I am not kidding - $600 stickered price for an arsenal refinished Mosin Nagant carbine (M44) with attached bayonet. Maybe it was the bayoney that made it worth the extra $500 plus dollars, who knows

But FWIW this sticker price was in line with the cut down (sporterized) Enfield No 4 MK 1 that was stickered at $350 or the well used S&W model 22A with Tasco Red dot scope that had a $450 sticker. Then I guess these were in line with the Makarov that was also stickered at $450.

Unbelieveable pricing.

Regards,
Rob

 

[Aaryq]

I've seen such monstrosities...$500 'Sporterized' Enfields, $450 M44's, $1000 WASRs...but in the same store I also saw a .40 S&W Hi Point 4095 for $120 (I still kick myself on a regular basis for not picking it up), Matching SN Russian SKS, bayonet intact, nice bore for $330 (alas another deal I have nightmares about). I'll go back there when I visit home on leave again...

 

[CBS220]

Pawn shops, more and more often, tend to be the place to only find the occasional steal.

But, it seems like more and more owners are equating "Surplus war gun" with "rare and valuable" even when rifles like Mosins and sporterized Enfields and decidedly not.

 

[OAKVILLE SHOOTER]

I am not kidding - $600 stickered price for an arsenal refinished Mosin Nagant carbine (M44) with attached bayonet. Maybe it was the bayoney that made it worth the extra $500 plus dollars, who knows

I wonder what they gave the poor guy that brouhjt it in. For that kind of money it would almost be worth the drive from Virginia to Georgia to pawn a few.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

I wonder if they could just be ignorant and the guy selling it told them a whopper that they bought hook, line, and sinker. Not all FFls are gun guys (ironic I know) and they might have honestly never seen one before.

 

[bogie]

Plus, they're not forcing you to buy it. They are probably hoping that someone walks in, decides that if it is priced high that it must be worth it, and talks them down to $500 or so...

Because I can assure you that that sort of thing DOES happen.

 

[JWarren]

Sadly, it wouldn't be that far off of the going rate of a VG condition Finn Mosin.


-- John

 

[CBS220]

Sadly, it wouldn't be that far off of the going rate of a VG condition Finn Mosin.

???

http://www.gunsnammo.com/

 

[JWarren]

Quote:
Sadly, it wouldn't be that far off of the going rate of a VG condition Finn Mosin.

???

Nice Finnish capture Mosins go for quite a premium when you can find them.


-- John

 

[CBS220]

A sniper or some other very rare variant may, but the vast majority of them are in pretty good shape and unless there is something unusual about them they rarely go over $400.

 

[mekender]

local gun shop... yes a gun shop not a pawn shop has a CZ-52 with non matching parts for $399...

of course, everyone in town that knows anything about the shooting sports knows not to shop there...

 

[atblis]

Yeah well

Ha. I bought a "Portugese Mauser" for $50 OTD at my friendly local pawnbroker. Turns out, it was actually a Finnish Nagant.

 

[4v50 Gary]

At $600 it had better be the sniper version (a real sniper and not a gun assembled from parts) but apparently it's not even that at all. What an outrageous price.

 

[goon]

I saw a Carcano the other day for $359 at my regular gun store.
Last I heard, you practically couldn't give those things away and ammo was practically nonexistent.
Someone either knows something I don't or they've been drinking some funny koolaid without saving me any.

 

[CWL]

Must've belonged to Josef Stalin.

 

[evan price]

A shop I visited had a Century L1A1 FAL rifle, complete with neutered barrel, and had obviously (The park on the lower did not match, nor did the furniture match the handguards)been converted to a correct pistol grip/buttstock setup from the Bell & Carlsson butthole stock- without replacing any 922(r) parts to make it legal. CAI inch upper that took metric mags.

Came with a handful of mags, a nylon sling from GGG, a generic rail top cover and a Wal*Mart red dot. The receiver feedramp had been heavily chewed up with a Dremel, to the point that it was actually concave under the barrel- not even a ramp at all, anymore. The employee said it would not shoot a full mag without jamming "a bunch" and several of the mags that came with it would not feed at all.

Their asking price? Marked down to $1295 from $1495!

 

[AmishFury]

there are a number of mosin variants that can justify such a price tag (some rare variants even hitting the $3000+ mark)... but no M44 short of MAYBE a 1943 hex reciever finn capture should ever cost that much

 

[Cosmoline]

Not all Mosins are created equal. Here's an early Soviet M91 that commanded $1,400 after an intense auction:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102736312

 

[chris in va]

I about fell over when I saw a HiPoint 9mm pistol priced at...$400.

Do they really think someone will pay that??

 

[Bartkowski]

Whats the deal with 1943? I have heard that it is rare, but can't figure out why it would be.

 

[Cosmoline]

M44 in 1943, think about it. About 50,000 were made that year vs. millions the following years. Now of course there are many Finn subtypes with MUCH smaller production runs than 50,000. But logic doesn't always enter into it. The PU 91/30 snipers, for example, were churned out by the truckload but command vastly higher prices than the far rarer and more accurate Civil Guard M-28's and M28-30's.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

I'm guessing that it would be very rare because 1943 indicates that it would be a very early production model or even a prototype as they are called M44s because they were produced starting in 1944. I also thought that all of the M44s were round receivers so a hex receiver would mean it was an earlier model modified into an M44. Add in the Finn capture and it would be very rare indeed.

 

[Bartkowski]

Alright, I thought that I heard 1943 was rare for 91/30's too.(not on this forum)

It makes sense for the m44's though.

 

[Ltlabner]

Found a beat to death mix-matched AR with a poorly done side folding stock (and associated modifcations) and a total piece of crap red dot listed for $900.

The internals looked like a coal mine and I wouldn't be suprised if some "gunsmithing" had been done to it.

When I mentioned that I could nearly get a brand new Bushmaster or Rock River for that price the guy behind the counter mostly mumbled and walked off.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

On the other hand I found a Finn M39 with no rust and top shape with the exception of a chip at the buttplat for 157.00 out the door. Shoots better than I do and I am a decent shot to say the least.