7.62X39 Rifle Poll

What 7.62X39 rifle would you buy if you had $500 to spend

  • Yugo SKS

    Votes: 21 10.7%
  • Norinco SKS

    Votes: 16 8.2%
  • Saiga

    Votes: 17 8.7%
  • AK 47 (generic)

    Votes: 118 60.2%
  • AR Style

    Votes: 9 4.6%
  • Ruger Mini 30

    Votes: 15 7.7%

  • Total voters
    196
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I have been debating several differant rifles. I have a .223 and would like to get a rifle in 7.62X39 to round out my collection. The question is what do you think is the best rifle for the money. I am leaning towards getting a Saiga, but am unsure on what type of magazines it uses. Thanks
 
I would get the $109 Yugo SKS from Aimsurplus.com and then spend the other $391 on ammo, ammo, and more ammo. Maybe a synthetic stock, too.

hillbilly
 
As far as the SKSs go the Yugo is bulit very heavy, solid, outstanding truck gun. Plus you could buy three for 500 bills. Or Two and a trunk full of ammo.

Just my .02 to be taken with salt
 
Personally, I think the SKS is made better than the AK. I like the Norinco the best because it's handier than the Yugo, but the Yugos have more consistent quality.

AKs are nice for the hi capacity mags though and they are even smaller and handier than any SKS except maybe a Paratrooper Norinco.

For $500 you should be able to get both a Yugo (under $150) or Norinco ($150-200) SKS and a SAR-1 AK($300-350).

I am leaning towards getting a Saiga, but am unsure on what type of magazines it uses.
Saigas don't use regular AK mags.
 
I would get together another $20-$50 and buy a Vepr K. Simply an awesome rifle. I love mine.
 
Nothing beats the original Ghetto Gun. I vote for A-Kay!

It's like a beater car because you can abuse the hell out of it, ding & dents don't matter, and it still run like a champ regardless. I still carry my AK around in a Hefty Garbage bag. A regular rifle case is too good for it. :D
 
If "generic" (can't you be specific than that?) means SAR-1, its the best buy for the money but you can't go wrong with an SKS at half the price.
 
Saigas don't use regular AK mags.

Mine does :)

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I would get an AK. SKS' are nice and cheap and a good solid rifle but the AK is superior in nearly every way if a "evil assault weapon" is what you really want. The trigger is better, the magazine is infinitely better (compared to SKS "duckbill" detachable mags, the stock fixed SKS mag is a good quality setup...), the gun is lighter/handier, the action is slightly better designed although similar (less seperate parts in the AK's setup, about as simple/rugged as you can get), etc. Not that I don't like the SKS. I have a very nice Norinco I bought new and I like it alot. I like my AKs better though for what I want...

The Saiga wouldn't be a bad idea since they are as cheap as an SKS, yet you can convert them to take standard-cap AK mags pretty easily as well as convert it to use the standard AK pistol grip stock setup (looks worlds better plus helps fulfill the US parts count for legally taking the hi-cap mags) if you're a DIY-er type of guy. Search on AK-47.net's forums and you'll see alot of posts on Saiga conversions. If you don't care about over 10 rnd mags the Saiga's mags are still good quality mags although they are $20ish vs $5-$8 for standard AK mags... They are better than Mini-30 mags or similar though...
 
I agree with Sodapop, they are pushing me over the edge also. Especially those with the black synthetic furniture. That's all I need, another project. :rolleyes:

Please post more. :evil:
 
Generic Ak. Cheap ammo and endless hours of shooting fun! Easy to care for and they keep on going. I like the the SLR's.(Bulgarian)
 
It depends...

I have been debating several differant rifles. I have a .223 and would like to get a rifle in 7.62X39 to round out my collection. The question is what do you think is the best rifle for the money. I am leaning towards getting a Saiga, but am unsure on what type of magazines it uses. Thanks

Depending on purpose:

- Target/Plinking - gotta' love the Saiga's price, mag's are readily available from CDNN as are the rifles (need to ship to your FFL).

- For pure fun and SHTF capability, gotta' go with the AK (I got 3) :D

Some pictures of the family...

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SAR-1 = Great first AK, but it has some issues...http://linx310.nothingbutguns.com/index.shtml

SSR-56 - Much better fit and finish, beautiful wood, but no side rail...http://www.arsenalusa.com/

SAM-7S - Beautiful, milled receiver, has the side rail (great for Russian Optics), but pricey by comparison...
http://www.arsenalinc.com/sam7s.html

I like the Kobra Red Dot...http://www.nightvisionweb.com/kobra.htm

Good luck and safe shooting,

CZ52'
 
For a first 7.62x39mm. rifle, I highly recommend the Saiga. It's very cheap ($169 at CDNN plus shipping, $199 at many retailers), is an AK action (so it can accept the side-mounted optics, the Red Star trigger group, etc.), and can be upgraded to accept 30-round magazines in future, if you want to. For my money, it's more cost-effective than the SKS, which would be my second choice. (I own both, and like them both, but in value for money terms, I have to give first place to the Saiga.)

Oh, and for Sodapop's benefit... :evil: :neener: :p


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The SAR-1 is actually a great AK for the price. Mine is dead-on accurate right out of the box. You can add a K-Var black polymer stock set and you'll be tickled pink. The SAR-1 is close enough for Soviet government work to a real AKM. The receiver is made exactly how an AKM receiver is made, complete with the "dimples" over the mag well. Century boofed the replacement fire control group on the SARs, but you can fix that with a Red Star Arms trigger group. Mine had some trigger slap that has disappeared before I sent away for the Red Star trigger group, so I'm holding off now and going to get a K-Var stock set. Those, by the way, come in black, olive drab, and plum. Why plum? Some Warsaw Pact AKs used plastic stocks that were plum colored and some folks want that effect. My SAR has blasted thousands of rounds and never a malfunction yet. By the way, the K-Var stock set adds 1 1/4" pull to the buttstock which is nice. It still retains the trap in the butt for the cleaning kit. And the butt sling swivel is on the side where it belongs. And the foregrip has a eat shield.

And if you're into bump-firing, the SAR bumps so fast it sounds like a full-auto. Did this once at the pits and people there thought it was a selective-fire full-on AK. It wastes ammo, so I only did this a couple times, but everyone has to do it once to get it out of their system.
 
But the lack of high-cap mags that work have the Ruger Minis looking like overpriced ten shooters. I can get at least 3 military issue 30 round AK mags that will work forever for the price of one POS Mini mag that doesn't work. Do you know how many Mini mags I see at the pits shot full of holes? Talk about frustration! The safety on an AK is fine when you learn to use it right. Not the best, but not the worst, either. The sights, well, again, it's a familiarity thing. If it's what you shoot, that's what you know. I know you can't get an AK in Cali because your state is run by imbeciles. So, I can't fault your choice in a Mini. But it's not got the AK beat all hollow by a damn sight. When the Mini racks up the reputation the AK has had long before the Mini was a warm thought in Bill Ruger's head, then we'll talk. But it never will because no major military ever has or ever will use the Mini as an issue weapon.
 
Toss up really - - -

For those choices listed, I picked the Yugo SKS, cause I already have an acceptable AK. I picked up a MAK90 and installed proper (US made) wood a while back, just to spite Billary.

What I'd really like is the little Mauser action version, but then I'd have to get into handloading the cartridge, and I have too many projects on the fire already . . . . . ;)

Has anyone ever gotten a Mini 30 to really shoot well? I mean, groups, rather than patterns?:p

Best,
Johnny
 
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