Does anyone know if this rifle was converted by the factory to sporter configuration or was it built originally as a sporter ? It has a .318 bore if that helps. There are no markings on the rifle except the SN, 21, which is on the barrel shroud, barrel, receiver, and other major parts. No sign of a crest and can't tell if it was ever there.
88 Commision: Factory Sporter or converted ?
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rcmodel
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1960's-70's conversion by a home gunsmith.
The white-line rubber recoil pad + poorly done butter-knife bolt handle + poorly done glossy stock finish with bumps in it is a dead give-away!!
Sorry to be so blunt.
But that rifle would not have made it out of an old world German gun factory on top of the scrap iron pile.
Here is what a German Sporter conversion should / would look like.
http://surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=125425
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The white-line rubber recoil pad + poorly done butter-knife bolt handle + poorly done glossy stock finish with bumps in it is a dead give-away!!
Sorry to be so blunt.
But that rifle would not have made it out of an old world German gun factory on top of the scrap iron pile.
Here is what a German Sporter conversion should / would look like.
http://surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=125425
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BTW: Is this you selling it?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/18203...ade--gew-88-carbine-sporter-with-set-triggers
Or are you planning on buying it??
rc
http://www.armslist.com/posts/18203...ade--gew-88-carbine-sporter-with-set-triggers
Or are you planning on buying it??
rc
Jim Watson
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The Kar 88 Carbine had a flat bolt handle right out of the arsenal, a little rough looking compared to a nice butterknife Haenel and not in the same league as a Mannlicher Schoenauer sporter.
The Alfa 1911 Catalog shows the type except their MDF 30b appears to have the GI rear sight. But it has DST and no side sling buckle as seen here.
I believe Bubba's ministrations were limited to the varnished stock, white line buttplate, and hot blue job. The base gun is a historical type.
Part of the proof mark shows above the stock line in the advertisement.
It looks like 3.67 gGPB which is strange if true because the proof load for 8mm 1888 was 2.67 grams of powder.
Alfa did not offer the type in any other caliber, so unless it has been completely redone in say 9.3x57 (With barrel jacket? Doubtful and contrary to the advertisement.) I have to think the proof house employee just picked up the wrong stamp.
Caliber is shown in the ad as 300 Blackout which is just absurd and contrary to the text.
The Alfa 1911 Catalog shows the type except their MDF 30b appears to have the GI rear sight. But it has DST and no side sling buckle as seen here.
I believe Bubba's ministrations were limited to the varnished stock, white line buttplate, and hot blue job. The base gun is a historical type.
Part of the proof mark shows above the stock line in the advertisement.
It looks like 3.67 gGPB which is strange if true because the proof load for 8mm 1888 was 2.67 grams of powder.
Alfa did not offer the type in any other caliber, so unless it has been completely redone in say 9.3x57 (With barrel jacket? Doubtful and contrary to the advertisement.) I have to think the proof house employee just picked up the wrong stamp.
Caliber is shown in the ad as 300 Blackout which is just absurd and contrary to the text.
Cosmoline
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Is that really a two digit SN? That's a first.
It may be a sporterized carbine or a sporterized faux-carbine. It's tough to tell without some exact measurements. Look at the distance between the front band and the nose cap--it seems longer to me than on yours, but it's tough to judge scale from photos:
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/12041...mauser-german-model-1888-carbine-all-matching
It may be a sporterized carbine or a sporterized faux-carbine. It's tough to tell without some exact measurements. Look at the distance between the front band and the nose cap--it seems longer to me than on yours, but it's tough to judge scale from photos:
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/12041...mauser-german-model-1888-carbine-all-matching
I'm sure it was refinished and the butt pad installed here. What confused me was the stock had no slot for the sling and no signs it was filled in. No military markings and no sign of removal.
Yeah, that was my ad. I was able to locate some .318 bullets and the proper brass. The 300 blackout listing is a software glitch Armslist has when no manufacturer is listed. I'm going to shoot it a few times to verify everything works before I put it up again.
The "H" over the Star of David have any meaning ?
Yeah, that was my ad. I was able to locate some .318 bullets and the proper brass. The 300 blackout listing is a software glitch Armslist has when no manufacturer is listed. I'm going to shoot it a few times to verify everything works before I put it up again.
The "H" over the Star of David have any meaning ?
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http://curioandrelicfirearmsforum.yuku.com/topic/19851
"The Six Pointed Star is to be noted on many thousands of Mauser type rifles in a very prominent fashion, such as on the Models 1892, 1893 as produced by Ludwig Loewe & Co. and DWM of Berlin.
I believe the marking is simply a workman's stamp, or indicating that a certain operation(s) met specifications."
"The Six Pointed Star is to be noted on many thousands of Mauser type rifles in a very prominent fashion, such as on the Models 1892, 1893 as produced by Ludwig Loewe & Co. and DWM of Berlin.
I believe the marking is simply a workman's stamp, or indicating that a certain operation(s) met specifications."
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