90gr loads in 270 Win

[capreppy]

I would like to develop some 90gr Varmint loads for a 270 Win. It is unlikely I'll have the funds for a new rifle in my near future (at least a year, maybe less if the cards are right, but not holding my breath) so my 270 will have to act as a Varmint rifle for a while.

Looking at the Speer TNT Varmint 90gr (JHP). Any other bullet suggestions would be much appreciated. I have Hodgdon H4350 and IMR 4831 on hand.

I've developed loads for the Horandy 130gr SP using IMR 4831, but Hodgdon's online doesn't show this powder for the 90gr. My Lyman manual has IMR 4831 with a range from 54 to 60+. My Hornady manual does not cover the 90gr pills at all. I saw a couple of threads that showed Hodgdon H4350 as a good powder for this bullet, but didn't want to revive threads that were nearly a year old.

I'd love to find some good loads for H4350 since I have a fair amount left from when I was developing loads for the Hornady 130gr SP.

 

[rcmodel]

I would at least try a box of Hornady 110 grain V-Max bullets.

I have not shoot any in a 270, but I have never shot a V-Max in anything that wasn't really accurate, and with devastating explosive expansion.

It's ballistic coefficient is way higher then the 90 grain TNT, or most other SP or HP varmint bullets, and it will shoot flatter with less wind drift at longer range.

Hornady #6 shows the 110 V-Max with IMR-4350.
49.7 grain Start load giving 2,800 FPS.
58.4 MAX giving 3,300 FPS.

With H-4350:
50.1 Start
58.8 MAX
gives the same velocitys as above

rc

 

[murf]

try imr 4064. works for me.

murf

 

[MMCSRET]

I found over the years that the short 90 gr. bullets provided less than stellar accuracy in 270 Winchester. I tried 110 gr and they worked well enough to use the 270 sporters that I've owned over the years, as varmint rifles.

 

[kelbro]

My experience was the same as MMCSRET's. Tried lots of powders and could not get the 90s to shoot. May give the 4064 a try. Still have a lot of bullets to shoot up

 

[NCsmitty]

Growing up, my buddy used 90gr Sierra's in his 1917 Enfield in 270 Win to make the local woodchuck's life hell.
I'm not sure what powder and charge that he used.

www.alliantpowder.com is showing 3500+fps with the 100gr Speer HP and Rel-17. Take a look at the site and see what they offer.



NCsmitty

 

[capreppy]

RC, is the 110gr V-Max too much for a prairie dog? or similarly sized animal? I already have a 130gr load for pretty much everything else.

Murf, I'd prefer to not have to introduce another powder, but if all else fails, I will definitely give that a try.

Well it looks like I may be trying a slightly different bullet. Apparently Cabela's doesn't carry Speer (I was checking MidwayUSA and forgot to check to see what was actually available at Cabela's where I would be getting the first box for load development), but they do have the Sierra 90gr HP Varminter. I'll have to see if I can find a box of the Speers locally.

 

[LOLBELL]

I too could not get a 90 grn bullet to shoot well in 3 different 270's. I tried 4064, H414, and Varget. The 110 v-max shoots .5 moa with Varget.

 

[capreppy]

Is the 110gr bullet too much for prairie dogs? Really that much of a difference between the 110gr and 130gr?

Coming from a pistol background and 20gr isn't much of a difference.

 

[MMCSRET]

Too much for prairie poodles, are we some how worried about over kill?

 

[capreppy]

Too much for prairie poodles, are we some how worried about over kill?

This begs the question... Why not just stick with 130gr pills? Why do people make specific Varmint rounds

I don't have to do any work ups and I'll just kill everything in sight

 

[Frozen North]

is the 110gr V-Max too much for a prairie dog?

I used a 270 for a varmint rifle for a few years. Any varmint bullet you use will produce dramatic results. I finally started shooting 130gr loads that my rifle preferred. Overkill is overkill. No expansion with the 130 big game bullets, but who needs it?

 

[capreppy]

I used a 270 for a varmint rifle for a few years. Any varmint bullet you use will produce dramatic results. I finally started shooting 130gr loads that my rifle preferred. Overkill is overkill. No expansion with the 130 big game bullets, but who needs it?

That sir is what I wanted to hear. I'll load up the remainder of my brass with 130's and just be dine with it.

 

[Craigman]

Why do people make specific Varmint rounds

one reason is for where people are shooting rock chucks.....in piles or walls of rocks.... the bullet is designed to come apart and not ricochet for safety to the shooter and whatever else lies close.

+1 on the V-max awesome performance all around

 

[rcmodel]

+1
Much varmint country is also farm, ranch, cow, & horse country.

Varmint bullets are designed to explode on contact with a varmint, or the ground.

Heavier hunting bullets are not, and will shoot through a varmint, hit the ground behind it, and then ricochet into the next county, to hit who knows what.

rc

 

[capreppy]

+1
Much varmint country is also farm, ranch, cow, & horse country.

Varmint bullets are designed to explode on contact with a varmint, or the ground.

Heavier hunting bullets are not, and will shoot through a varmint, hit the ground behind it, and then ricochet into the next county, to hit who knows what.

rc

Had not that of that.

I'll give the 100gr Hornady V-Max a try. I just finished prepping a few hundred 270 Win cases so I have a few to use for load development

 

[gamestalker]

I haven't tried the 90 gr. TNT yet but back in the 1980's I got addicted to the Sierra 90 gr. for my .270. I once shot a coyote at some 200 yds. that was standing at the top of a hill. When I climbed the hill to investigate the shot I couldn't find the coyote, but instead a whole lot of blood and fur. Finally my Nephew got my attention after blood dripped on his head and the coyote was smeared across the under side a cedar tree and was totally unidentifiable.
The load was IMR4350 OAL was just off the lands (-.005"). I don't have the charge right in front of me but I do know I load them up to around 80% of the listed data. I also use RL19 and H1000 with excellent results but have settled on RL19 as my regular .270 win. powder because it really gets in out there fast and with accuracy that compliments a .270 win. and pressures are easier to predict. Velocity with the 90 gr. is right around 3600 fps using one of those slow burning powders.