= $95 = Viridian Serac 6-24x50 (30mm tube) - Natchez Tax Refund Sale

[LiveLife]

I don't know how my AR snuck in there lol.

At $95, you could buy one Serac for each one of your ARs.

Think about this ... If Viridian is truly closing out the Serac 6-24x50 model, this will be the "Scope Buy of the Decade". (Like how Burris closed out the FF II E1 6.5-20x50 model with side focus ... Last remaining mil dot AO version still being sold at $219 ... And what scope will Burris warranty claim E1 6.5-20x50 with once the mil-dot version is sold out? Perhaps FF IV 6-24x50?)

And with "Iron Clad" lifetime warranty and no Serac 6-24x50 models to use as replacements, I think Viridian will fulfill the warranty claims with scopes like Antero 5-30x56 30mm tube SFP scope from their current product lines and that would be fine with me. - https://viridianweapontech.com/antero-5-30x56mm-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-sfp-981-0037

Viridian website currently only shows five 30mm scopes and around 24x power, there are only two scopes and Mylex 4-24x50 FFP is already discontinued leaving Antero 5-30x56 SFP ($325 at Optics Planet, Viridian's exclusive distributor) - https://viridianweapontech.com/prod...s?tube_diameter=30mm&product_list_order=price

Don't know how many scopes Natchez has on hand but this may be the last call for them (Like for Burris FF II E1 6.5-20x50 at $169) - https://www.natchezss.com/viridian-serac-rifle-scope-6-24x50-30mm-sfp-etched-vfd-2-black

If you want one, get one before they are sold out.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Yeah im going to take the Konus off my one 7.62x39 AR and put it on there. The rest are running with Vortex scopes.

 

[LiveLife]

Yeah im going to take the Konus off my one 7.62x39 AR and put it on there. The rest are running with Vortex scopes.

Almost 2.5 years ago, you were the one who tipped me off about Burris FF II E1 6.5-20x50 and glad I got to repay the favor with Viridian Serac. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lfield-e1-6-5-20x-50mm-169-9-shipping.893341/

And happy with my Vortex scopes also.

Thanks to member CoalCrackerAl in another thread, just ordered one for $169.99 with $8.99 shipping.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

It's amazing how time fly's. I didn't realize it has been that long we got the Burris scopes. This is a great forum. Everyone seams to help where they can.

 

[LiveLife]

It's amazing how time fly's. I didn't realize it has been that long we got the Burris scopes.

Oops, not almost 4 years ago rather 2.5 years ago ... Dang, and I took High School Calculus and worked as TA for College Calculus.

BUT, time sure does fly ... and why we should "Live Life".

 

[LoonWulf]

At $95, you could buy one Serac for each one of your ARs.

Think about this ... If Viridian is truly closing out the Serac 6-24x50 model, this will be the "Scope Buy of the Decade". (Like how Burris closed out the FF II E1 6.5-20x50 model with side focus ... Last remaining mil dot AO version still being sold at $219 ... And what scope will Burris warranty claim E1 6.5-20x50 with once the mil-dot version is sold out? Perhaps FF IV 6-24x50?)

And with "Iron Clad" lifetime warranty and no Serac 6-24x50 models to use as replacements, I think Viridian will fulfill the warranty claims with scopes like Antero 5-30x56 30mm tube SFP scope from their current product lines and that would be fine with me. - https://viridianweapontech.com/antero-5-30x56mm-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-sfp-981-0037

Viridian website currently only shows five 30mm scopes and around 24x power, there are only two scopes and Mylex 4-24x50 FFP is already discontinued leaving Antero 5-30x56 SFP ($325 at Optics Planet, Viridian's exclusive distributor) - https://viridianweapontech.com/prod...s?tube_diameter=30mm&product_list_order=price

Don't know how many scopes Natchez has on hand but this may be the last call for them (Like for Burris FF II E1 6.5-20x50 at $169) - https://www.natchezss.com/viridian-serac-rifle-scope-6-24x50-30mm-sfp-etched-vfd-2-black

If you want one, get one before they are sold out.

My FFL buddy poked through the offerings by the available distributors he can see, and nobody had any more Seracs. I cant remember if he told me how many Chattanooga/ Natchez had left, but they seem to be it.

 

[LiveLife]

My FFL buddy poked through the offerings by the available distributors ... and nobody had any more Seracs ... Natchez ... they seem to be it.

There you go, THR members ... Looks like last call for Viridian Serac 6-24x50 with 1/8 MOA locking turrets, etc. at $95 - https://www.natchezss.com/viridian-serac-rifle-scope-6-24x50-30mm-sfp-etched-vfd-2-black

To me likely the most under-rated 30mm "brand name" scope with lifetime warranty from a USA based and manufacturing company (They do "assemble" in the USA with "globally sourced" components but heck, they are nonetheless US tax paying workers mind you. ) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...g-range-reticle-for-150.900740/#post-12191635

"Viridian Optics products are produced with our international manufacturing partners and imported to Viridian for direct sale to customers without retail distribution." < Now Optics Planet is exclusive distributor >​

 

[LoonWulf]

I have one set of 30mm-3/8th rings and a few sets of 30mm pic/weaver rings if anyone needs.

 

[Mauser lover]

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I have one set of 30mm-3/8th rings and a few sets of 30mm pic/weaver rings if anyone needs.

How much for the 3/8s? Are they good rings, or a Walmart version? I need a set.

 

[LoonWulf]

How much for the 3/8s? Are they good rings, or a Walmart version? I need a set.

Free, they are just cheap chinese "buy scope get ring!" rings, but they checked out true when i had them out of the package.
The 30 pics are nikons As (which werent true and took some lapping) and .......i forget....

 

[Mauser lover]

I did post the dimensions of the "tank" of a scope bigger than Vortex Crossfire II/Strike Eagle ...

Oh, yeah. Totally not your fault. Not really a fault anyway. It’s just that when I looked at numbers on the screen it didn’t really translate into my understanding like it did when I held this monster in my hand. I’m not an optics junkie, I just know that I need to be able to see. Not even knowing what I was buying this for, I didn’t think about sticking it on my .22. I didn’t even know that 30mm 3/8 dovetail rings even existed. I just didn’t think about it.

 

[LiveLife]

I didn’t think about sticking it on my .22

FYI, if you are thinking about using the Serac for 22LR at 50-100 yards, due to bullet drop from slower muzzle velocities, I needed to use 20 MOA EGW scope rail for 10/22 or I would almost max out my vertical/elevation turret adjustment and still needed to use the reticle lines.

With 20 MOA scope rail, cross hair was brought back to center of turret adjustment at 50 yards.

 

[troy fairweather]

Will the cz 11mm dovetail fit the 3/8

 

[LoonWulf]

FYI, if you are thinking about using the Serac for 22LR at 50-100 yards, due to bullet drop from slower muzzle velocities, I needed to use 20 MOA EGW scope rail for 10/22 or I would almost max out my vertical/elevation turret adjustment and still needed to use the reticle lines.

With 20 MOA scope rail, cross hair was brought back to center of turret adjustment at 50 yards.

Dont know adjustments specs but should be at least 30moa, which should allow zero at 100.

10/22 might be experiencing barrel droop, one of mine did that and zeroing was annoyingly hard.
I shimmed it the barrel and epoxied it in to fix that.

 

[LiveLife]

10/22 might be experiencing barrel droop, one of mine did that and zeroing was annoyingly hard.
I shimmed it the barrel and epoxied it in to fix that.

After reading about the 10/22 barrel mounting with V block causing barrel droop on RFC and THR, I used Tactical Solutions X-ring V block to address the issue - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...22lr-on-the-cheap.898035/page-2#post-12174248

Notice factory V block applying pressure on the bottom of barrel? Force applied to bottom of barrel is made worse by forward part of factory picatinny rail pushing down on top of the barrel when tightened to the receiver.

Comparison between factory V block and Tactical Solutions X-ring V block

And Tactical Solutions X-ring V block installed. Notice top profile pushes up against bottom of barrel when tightened to resist drooping of barrel.

And unlike forward part of factory picatinny rail that pushes down on the barrel, forward part of EGW 20 MOA rail does not contact the barrel and returned the crosshair of Viridian Serac to center of turret adjustment - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...22lr-on-the-cheap.898035/page-2#post-12214070

 

[LoonWulf]

Nice! My mount didn't push on the barrel, but it drooped bad enough without it lol. I didn't know tacsol had an aftermarket block. Thats a slick fix.

 

[LiveLife]

I didn't know tacsol had an aftermarket block. Thats a slick fix.

Many are offering aftermarket V block with thicker angled top to push against the bottom of barrel. I went with Tactical Solutions X-ring because it was made from stainless steel instead of aluminum like Tandemkross V block - https://1022racerifle.com/tactical-solutions-ruger-10-22-v-block/

Tactical Solutions V-Block for the Ruger 10/22 eliminates common barrel droop. The 10/22’s common problem of barrel droop (due to the slip in barrel design) is easily solved with this stainless steel CNC machined V-Block. Tactical Solutions V-Block is designed to apply constant an uniform pressure keeping your barrel tight thus improving accuracy and eliminating barrel droop.​

TANDEMKROSS Barrel Retaining V-Block for Ruger® 10/22®

www.tandemkross.com

The TANDEMKROSS V-Block secures the barrel to the receiver with increased stiffness and rigidity, eliminating the barrel droop (or barrel sag) that is commonly seen over time with a stock v-block. The factory V-Block can to pull the barrel down - the [TK] V-Block is designed to provide a camming action that applies an upward force vector - the more torque you apply to the V-Block, the more upwards force applied to the barrel ... This enhancement allows for better accuracy with more consistent shot placement.​

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[Spats McGee]

FYI, if you are thinking about using the Serac for 22LR at 50-100 yards, due to bullet drop from slower muzzle velocities, I needed to use 20 MOA EGW scope rail for 10/22 or I would almost max out my vertical/elevation turret adjustment and still needed to use the reticle lines.

With 20 MOA scope rail, cross hair was brought back to center of turret adjustment at 50 yards.

That’s exactly how I plan to use the Serac, but I’m going to see how she performs before swapping the rail.

 

[Spats McGee]

FYI, if you are thinking about using the Serac for 22LR at 50-100 yards, due to bullet drop from slower muzzle velocities, I needed to use 20 MOA EGW scope rail for 10/22 or I would almost max out my vertical/elevation turret adjustment and still needed to use the reticle lines.

With 20 MOA scope rail, cross hair was brought back to center of turret adjustment at 50 yards.

I wonder if I should just go ahead and put a new rail on while I have it apart. @LiveLife , did that 20 MOA rail work for you, or would you suggest going with a 30 MOA? The odds are that I will do the overwhelming majority of shooting with this rifle at 50-100 yards.

 

[Walkalong]

20 MOA will do fine at 100 yards and in, but you'll likely need 30 MOA to get closer to 300 if you think you ever will. Of course this also depends on how much elevation the scope has, but 30 MOA won't hurt a thing, and will get you farther out.

 

[LiveLife]

10/22 might be experiencing barrel droop, one of mine did that and zeroing was annoyingly hard.
I shimmed it the barrel and epoxied it in to fix that.

I wonder if I should just go ahead and put a new rail on while I have it apart ... did that 20 MOA rail work for you, or would you suggest going with a 30 MOA? The odds are that I will do the overwhelming majority of shooting with this rifle at 50-100 yards.

10/22 barrel droop is a well known issue and Rimfire Central along with many THR members have suggested recommended fixes.

I first tried to see if I could compensate with scope turret adjustment but even with vertical/elevation adjustment maxed out, I still needed to compensate by using reticle lines.

Tactical Solutions X-Ring V-block (Stainless steel, not aluminum) was one of several recommended fixes and IMO better secures the barrel to receiver for reducing group size. TS X-Ring V-block did improve but the scope turret was still maxed out with me using less of reticle lines for compensation.

EGW 20 MOA picatinny rail was one of primary recommendations (In lieu of receiver/barrel replacement/threading) which was much more cost effective solution as I was working on the "Accurizing 22LR on the cheap" thread. And yes, 20 MOA rail returned the scope cross hair back to center of vertical/elevation turret adjustment.

Looking back knowing what I know, I would still get the Tactical Solutions X-Ring V-block and EGW 20 MOA picatinny scope rail for another 10/22 regardless scope used as most 30mm tube scopes have 40 MOA turret adjustment (Why I chose Viridian Serac with 30mm tube and 40 MOA adjustment over Burris FF E1 1" tube with 30 MOA turret adjustment).

For T/CR22, because of built-in picatinny scope rail on the receiver, I chose to go with Vortex Strike Eagle with 80 MOA turret adjustment. Could I have used Strike Eagle on the 10/22 instead of 20 MOA rail? Sure, but $95 for Viridian Serac (I paid $150) and $36 for 20 MOA rail is much cheaper solution than $300 Strike Eagle - https://www.eurooptic.com/vortex-strike-eagle-riflescopes.aspx

20 MOA will do fine at 100 yards and in, but you'll likely need 30 MOA to get closer to 300 if you think you ever will. Of course this also depends on how much elevation the scope has, but 30 MOA won't hurt a thing, and will get you farther out.

I agree. But most of my shooting is done at 50 yards for groups/ammunition comparison testing with occasional 100 yard groups.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

For the 10/22 barrel droop. Would putting a shim at the front of the stock under the barrel help?

 

[Walkalong]

I agree. But most of my shooting is done at 50 yards for groups/ammunition comparison testing with occasional 100 yard groups.

161.5 Yards (+/-) A little luck, a little skill, but one happy kid.

 

[LiveLife]

For the 10/22 barrel droop. Would putting a shim at the front of the stock under the barrel help?

There are many "suggestions" to accurize 10/22 on RFC and I ended up using the ones with more support for "efficacy". BTW, here's step by step "Bang for the buck" 10/22 mega thread on improving accuracy - https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/ruger-10-22-step-by-step.535662/

Instead of shim or inner tube under the barrel, I opted to free-float the barrel by putting hard plastic shim under the V-block until I was able to slide copy paper/dollar bill around the barrel.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I like the idea of free floating it. I did upgrade the trigger with a BX trigger. YAY a new project this week.