9mm luger the new 1,000 yard cartridge

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That's crazy. I was impressed when I saw instructor Zero get consistent hits at 300 yards with his 9mm, I can't imagine even seeing the target at 1,000.
 
I still don't buy it. if it's so easily done by a good shooter then why don't we see more than one shot. As far as how big the target is, all I can say is that I cannot see a 12" steel plate at 509 yards with my naked eye in its natural color. Maybe spray painted hot pink or something i could. I realize we are talking a target 4x that size but its at double the distance. Even being 4' high its not going to look at big at 1000yds. Maybe I can invite him to my local range to do this so I can witness it firsthand. if its so easy then he should not have a hard time replicating this shot.
 
Who exactly said it was easy? I must have missed that. :confused:

Also who ever said he auctually had to see the target to hit it. I feel confident he had a reference point he was, for lack of a better word, aiming at. Like shooting at a deer way off, you may "aim" at the top of the back expecting around a 10" bullet drop. In this case was probably something more like.... Hold on a certain spot of a marked pole and expect a huge bullet drop that was certainly predetermined by lots of practice shots.
 
Jerry Miculek isn't a hermit. And THR is nationwide.

I'm sure some member here knows him. Why don't we just ask him?

A quick perusal of the comments on youtube reveals a nearly identical conversation to the one we're having.
 
Best revolver shooter alive today, or probably ever, sure.... Best handgun shooter alive, or ever, eh, lots of people could make a good argument for that. Grauffel is clearly the best pistol shooter on earth today. Rob Letham has 20+ national titles over the course of his career and is still VERY competitive with no knees...etc.

Not to take anything fom either man.. But JM does hold 52 national titles and 45 world titles.

The man shoots for a living... How many of the naysayers can claim that?
 
Jerry is amazing on many levels, but the first thing that occurred to me when I watched it was how far he had to drive to get to the target.

Think about sitting in a football stadium behind the goal posts. I would have a hard time making out individual seats behind the opposing goal post. This shot was 8 or 9 times as long.

That is AMAZING trigger control no matter how many times he practiced before the camera showed up.
 
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I still don't buy it. if it's so easily done by a good shooter then why don't we see more than one shot. As far as how big the target is, all I can say is that I cannot see a 12" steel plate at 509 yards with my naked eye in its natural color. Maybe spray painted hot pink or something i could. I realize we are talking a target 4x that size but its at double the distance. Even being 4' high its not going to look at big at 1000yds. Maybe I can invite him to my local range to do this so I can witness it firsthand. if its so easy then he should not have a hard time replicating this shot.
lol, he is arguably the greatest handgun shooter that ever lived, and it is not just trick shots. The guy dominates dang near all competitions he shoots.

so again, lol at thinking he needs to prove it to you. Go ahead and invite him, he doubt he gives a crap what you think
 
But, he said it wasn't a hot handload.

He said if was factory Hornady 147 grain XTP.

He didn't say the ammo was factory. He just said it was 147gr Hornady XTP's.

As a matter of fact I'm putting money on it being handloads as when he pops the moonclip in the gun one of rounds is nickel plated whilst all the others are plain brass. I don't know of any factory ammo that uses regular brass mixed with nickel plated, but almost all handloaders have them mixed around like that.
 
Well, regardless of whether it was, or wasn't a factory load.

How much more velocity could you safely get out of a 147 in a 9mm handload to make any difference at all at 1,000 yards anyway?

I personally think Jerry M. could have easily done it.
And I do not doubt he did.
He got to pick the time of day with no wind.
And he undoubtedly got to practice it for days and find an aiming point high on the berm, until he was confident he could do it before the cameras were set up.

Besides that he is not known to be a lier.
He is known to be a very honerable man, and one of the all time best shooters this country has ever seen.
Even at his age.


I did some long range things 50 years ago with revolvers & auto-pistols that nobody would believe was possible today either.

A 2" S&W .38 kept me in beer money bets putting 5 shots in a GI ammo can at 100 yards.

Or hitting a 2" pipe target stand post 5 out of 7 at 100 with a 1911.

Could I do it on demand today?
Of course not!

But I could sure do it on demand then.

And Jerry is 1,000 times better then I ever was.

rc
 
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Long Range Revolver Shot

YouTube video of Jerry Miquilte (spelling way wrong) making a 1000 yd shot to bust a balloon hung on a steel plate. It took him two shots to pop the balloon and the follow up discussion he said he was holding just about 150 above the target in order for the bullet drop. Again don't remember the maker of the revolver but it was a 9mm, which surprised me that the bullet even made it that range. Here is Link to the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw&app=desktop
 
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The conditions matter. Under ideal conditions as opposed to less than ideal in my opinion would determine success or failure. I've shot enough service rifle and match rifle at long range that I appreciate the degree of difficulty.

That said the degree of difficulty with a handgun in my opinion would require practice-practice-practice with ideal conditions and a extremely capable shooter.

On a day with bad conditions in my opinion its not going to happen.

I would be interested on how repeatable would hits at 1000yds would occur over an extended inerval period of time days, weeks, and months.
 
lol, he is arguably the greatest handgun shooter that ever lived, and it is not just trick shots. The guy dominates dang near all competitions he shoots.

so again, lol at thinking he needs to prove it to you. Go ahead and invite him, he doubt he gives a crap what you think

That's fine if you want to believe that. As I have said many times over, he no doubt has skills, but I don't believe this until I have witnessed it with my own two eyes. And, frankly, I don't care if he cares what I think. I am just making a statement. I don't really consider the shooting sports professionals to be that large of a group, maybe I am wrong, but if that is the case then perhaps that is why he dominates it. If Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State and Arkansas were the only teams in college football then AL or Auburn would have been dominating for years. Do you see where I am going here? Perhaps that is not the best analogy but it works.

And, to be clear, I am not saying he didn't do it, but I have my doubts about him doing it in two shots. Maybe if, like RCModel said, he got to practice for days beforehand then sure. However, with that being said, I believe any one of us with some practice days and ammo could pull this off at some point. I have stated that many times.
 
I don't really consider the shooting sports professionals to be that large of a group, maybe I am wrong, but if that is the case then perhaps that is why he dominates it.

Go shoot with a GM-level shooter sometime. Get absolutely beaten by them on every level - speed, accuracy, gun handling, etc. Then realize that these are the guys he's been thrashing for 30+ years.
 
I honestly thought he was older than 60. He looks older, but after looking it up, he's right at the 60 yr age. I believe he did what he said he did, with or without the video. There are some very special people out there, like kids who can play a symphony after hearing it once, Or solve math problems that have kept men busy for years with no solution.
It's just the way life is, and just because you can't do it, doesn't mean someone else can't, and finds it much easier that you and probably can't figure out what the big deal is.
Just like you can't paint a masterpiece, or solve an equation that baffles mathematicians, doesn't mean someone else can't.
Try driving a car at over 200 MPH in Traffic. I got up to 180 and never did it again. Anything is possible, and to doubt someone who has always been open with his fans and anyone who wanted to see him shoot, I find it offensive that just because most folks here can't do a particular thing, to assume that no one else can. That's extremely high handed and silly if you think about all of the things you can't do.
 
We are very lucky to live in an age where you can watch Jerry Miculek show you what is possible. Ever notice how he's always smiling?
 
Perhaps. But while we're awed by them, few seem genuinely inspired by his vids. The distinction is important. Most see Jerry's skills as something only Super Jerry has the ability to do or even has the potential to do. By extension, it's not something mere mortals can (or should) work towards themselves, so they don't.
 
It was a great shot no doubt, but if you notice, from what I saw anyway, the bullet hit low and left on the plate - not on the balloon. The fragments from the steel plate and/or bullet burst the balloon, which was about a foot or so from where the bullet hit.
 
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