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Posted on Sat, Jul. 10, 2004

Electronic voting critics sue company under whistle blower law

RACHEL KONRAD

Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO - Electronic voting critics are suing Diebold Inc., alleging that the hardware and software company's shoddy equipment exposed California elections to hackers and software bugs.

California's attorney general on Friday unsealed the lawsuit, among the first e-voting cases to rely on an obscure legal provision for whistle blowers who help the government identify fraud.

Computer programmer Jim March and activist Bev Harris, who filed the case in November, are asking the state and counties to join the lawsuit. They're seeking full reimbursement for Diebold equipment purchased in California.

Alameda County has spent at least $11 million on paperless touchscreen machines. State election officials have spent at least $8 million.

Because the lawsuit relies on an obscure provision called "qui tam," March and Harris could collect up to 30 percent of any reimbursement.

"This is about money now - a case of the capitalist system at work," said March, a Sacramento computer enthusiast. "The laws on voting products and processes are unfortunately unclear. But the law on defrauding the government is really, really clear. Going after the money trail is cleaner than going after proper procedures."

Diebold spokesman David Bear said Saturday the company has not been served with the lawsuit and would not comment until it reviewed the case.

Election officials have until Sept. 7 to decide whether to join the lawsuit, said Tom Dresslar, spokesman for California Attorney General Bill Lockyer. Dresslar said the state would decide whether to participate after it completed an investigation.

Elaine Ginnold of the Alameda County registrar of voters said the county has not decided whether to participate. She said Diebold has been "extremely responsive" in addressing problems with decoders used in the March primary, which forced at least 6,000 of 316,000 voters to use backup paper ballots.

"I think we avoided a major crisis - it would have been much, much worse had we not had those paper ballot backups," Ginnold said.

Lawmakers from Maryland to California are expressing doubts about the integrity of paperless voting terminals made by several large manufacturers, which up to 50 million Americans will use in November.

In the March primary, 573 of 1,038 polling places in San Diego County failed to open on time because of computer malfunctions. In North Carolina's 2002 general election, a software bug deleted 436 electronic ballots from six paperless machines in two counties. Earlier this year, California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley banned one Diebold system after he found uncertified software that "jeopardized" the outcome of elections in several counties.

Qui tam - often used to find fraud involving Medicare or defense contracts - is a provision of the Federal Civil False Claims Act. Some states have similar acts.

Individuals tip off the government to embezzlers or shoddy contractors - and the whistle blowers get up to 30 percent of the reimbursement.

Qui tams are usually sealed for at least 60 days, and whistler blowers cannot discuss them. California allows individuals to publicize details of cases, but whistle blowers can't mention the existence of the lawsuit.

Contents of March and Harris' case have been widely publicized - including Diebold's use of uncertified hardware and software, and modems that may have published election results online before polls closed. It's unclear whether individuals have filed e-voting qui tams elsewhere.

Qui tam is an abbreviation from a Latin phrase meaning, "someone who sues on behalf of the king and on behalf of himself." The idea originated in 13th century England but wasn't used much until 1986, when rampant procurement fraud convinced U.S. regulators to boost whistle blowers' share of payments. Whistle blowers filed 33 cases in 1987 and 326 cases in 2003.

In June 2003, pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca agreed to pay $355 million after it set the average wholesale price for Zoladex higher than prices physicians paid - but failed to report discounts to Medicare. A vice president for sales at a rival filed the suit and received $47.6 million.

Federal qui tams totaled $7.8 billion through 2003. Whistle blowers collected $1.3 billion, according to San Jose, Calif.-based Bauman & Rasor Group, Inc.

The government declines to participate in about 70 percent of all qui tams filed, said Bob Bauman, a private investigator and former government consultant.

Some say qui tams are little more than hush money. Voting problems should be widely publicized - not kept under seal - before the November election to discourage more counties from switching to paperless systems, critics say.

"I would like to see people support a real solution rather than just try to cash in," said Alan Dechert, founder of Open Voting Consortium Inc., whose voting system relies on nonproprietary software. "There are a lot of people who could be a tremendous asset, but they're grandstanding and reveling in the expose."
 
This is just soooooooooo Cooooooooooooooool:D

I wish you all the best of luck, justice prevails and you are well rewarded for all your hard work!:cool: Kick booty, mon, kick megabooty!!!
 
How Jim March saved me from insanity

Last april or may I bartered a run down motorcycle to Jim in return for some computer upgrades,He also fixed me up with some handy CCW holsters which I have used when entertaining my girlfriends heavily Democrat dad,the whole time we were in the living room and I was singing the praises of John F Kennedy (you gotta start somewhere) I was packing heat and her dad never noticed.

Anyway at the time I was in a long running battle with many of the so called "progressives" on the political forum at www.craigslist.org.
Like many of us they would often accuse me of advocating violence simply because I advocated self defense (with firearms if they were called for)
They really hate me because I base my voting on how well a politician advocates gun rights,yet I wouldn't back dean which at the time they were all so sure was going to get the nomination.

I showed Jim the political forums and asked him for help with posting pictures,which really increased the level of hate filled threads about me.

I had gotten tired of the many death threats and of being told that I am compensating for the size of my manly attributes.

I started flaming back and consequently got kicked off. The left wing violence mongers and bigots are fine for craigslist. if a conservative takes the bait be prepared to get kicked off. A few years ago they were pretty good but now they are a cross between Yahoo and Dem underground...
Jim took my side and convinced them to let me post again but by then I was like a cat that had been in a fight and was going to bite every hand that came near me and I started doing very mean spirited flaming. I tried apologizing but they were glad to get rid of a conservative.

At the same time Jim introduced me to THR!
So I started annoying you guys with my "insane pro gun rants" and seemed to fit right in,
Saving me from spiraling down the road of trying to teach pigs to sing...
at the same time Jim started posting on the wopofo as the craiglisters refer to the political forum and he was alerted to the diebold stuff!!!

BTW Jim fixed up my computer way more then what he got for my tired old motorcycle.
I have a strong feeling Jim has helped (and continues to help) alot of people without expecting anything in return. If anyone deserves to get a bounty it's Jim.
Jim and Bev are saving our Democratic Republic and they fully deserve a sizable chunk of cash for their efforts.
Jim is going to defeat the racist class oriented ccw system in CA,I have no doubt.

I am gleefully awaiting the chance to rub the anti gun idiots face in their own disgusting racism.

So often they accuse us gunnies of being racist yet they are the ones sending tens of thousands of young black and latino men to Federal prison for their Constitutional right to KABA...

I think there is an awfull lot of angry gunnies out there who need good news,and many minorities who need to protect their lives without having to worry about doing Federal time
 
I'm smiling for you, Jim, and hoping everything works out. At the same time, and I know you know this, don't start spending the money yet. Our legal system can be very, very slow, and sometimes you run into weird surprises. But I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
There's a guy over on DU name of "TinfoilHatProgrammer" who is the long-time critic of Bev and the entire "BlackBoxVoting" election reform movement. He's been calling us "conspiracy theorists" and worse for a year now, so it's no surprise that this latest twist has made him go nuts.

This message is mainly for him:

There is NO situation possible where Bev and I could get paid and the government NOT recover at least their actual investment in Diebold gear.

WE can't get paid until THEY do. And that's how we like it.

As to the rest: sorry if you don't like how "playful" I get with descriptions. Ask me whether or not I care about your opinion.

The sad truth is, the courts have been acting insane in this entire area of law. BEV HARRIS IS AFFECTED BY ALAMEDA COUNTY ELECTIONS FRAUD, because they're pulling this crap in presidential elections. The courts on the other hand consider failed candidates to be the people with primary standing to sue over elections fraud; even then, if they can PROVE fraud, prove violations of election law, it doesn't matter unless they can also prove that the fraud would have overturned the race. This is almost always impossible. In one recent case in Napa, Lowell Finley proved that somebody had taken optical scan paper ballots and looked for situations where somebody didn't vote in that race, and "filled it in correctly". Ink analysis proved it. But they weren't able to find enough in the time they had available to prevail in court.

Well the courts can't play these kind of subjective games with money. The law is much more clear on government contracting...you can't sell something as being one thing (like, say, "secure") when in fact any bright 10 year old can hack the bejeezuz out of it.

Attacking Diebold this way is a lot like nailing Al Capone for tax evasion - Diebold SHOULD be nailed for violating elections law but because the law (both state and Fed) haven't kept up with the realities of electronic voting, well, we're going to have to try something else.

Yes, there's a possibility that this "something else" will leave Bev and I millionaires. I can assure you that when Lowell Finley first presented this concept to me in October, I was dumbfounded...this was never my intent or Bev's.

Still...BMW will be shipping a new motorcycle soon. I think I'd look good on one with a custom plate that says:

LIEBOLD

Message to Bumbler: thank you for the support. Note that the California rules Lowell has us operating under are based primarily on California case law (court decisions). ANYBODY who wants a piece of Diebold in other states or whatever is free to contact myself ([email protected]) or Bev and we'll hook you up with Lowell. The principles the California courts have found can be applied elsewhere. A key is that it works for people who are "new information generators"; it might NOT work for folks who are solely involved in regurgitating the work of others. In the latter case, Qui Tam could fail altogether. For more details, talk to Lowell or another elections law and/or Qui Tam specialist (google "qui tam" for a start).

This tie-in to "information generators" means there's liable to be squabbling over who discovered what first. This doesn't have to happen though. A number of people have made enough original discoveries to "spread the joy" (and Diebold's pain!) just nicely.
 
I read that DU thread Jim,

The Tinfoil dude is going on about how you have lost every time you have gone into court.

Can we get a little background on that? Is it true?

If so what makes you think you will win this time?


Enquiring minds and all that....
 
As to the rest: sorry if you don't like how "playful" I get with descriptions. Ask me whether or not I care about your opinion.

Okey doke. "Whether or not I care about your opinion?" :neener:

(I love rising to the occassion.) :evil:
 
Here2Learn:

We (meaning Bev, Lowell and I) have only "been to court" once...and not all the way.

Arright. Here, attached, is the original court filing from back in November.

The first 12 pages describe what this is all about.

Starting on the bottom of page 12, we have the "causes of action" - basically a statement of which laws we're operating under.

The first two causes of action are under the California False Claims Act - there's two because the majority of the money came from two different sources, the county and the state. Those are what had to be sealed.

The third cause of action we threw in there but it's basically kinda weak...it's a claim that Diebold's fraudulent actions harmed the competitiveness of other companies. It's...well, it's something unique to California law. WE don't get any money out of that one, but Diebold can be ordered to stop competing unfairly.

This case in it's entirety was supposed to be uncorked in January, which would have let us do preliminary motions in time to affect the California Primaries on 3/2/04. But the California AG's office put a 90-day stall on. :banghead: That left us with some bad options.

We did the best we could: we cancelled the third cause of action in the Alameda case and re-filed it in Sacramento Superior Court on it's own. We didn't do that out of profit motive, in fact there was extra expense on Lowell Finley's part - we did it so that we could do a motion to tighten up security prior to the California Primaries.

Well that motion failed. Calif SecState Shelley did his own set of "security enhancements" in a letter to the counties that use touchscreens. The court didn't think we had enough evidence to override Shelley's own attempt at security enhancements and at that time, based purely on the weak "Unfair Competition Law" claim and with no discovery yet, well...OK, we lost that motion. That CASE isn't dead, we can still do discovery with it and pursue it as it's own thing.

But the MAJOR attention now switches to Alameda County and the heavy-duty claims in progress there (causes of action one and two).

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There's been one prior electronic voting lawsuit in California, the one Susan Marie Weber brought two years ago in Riverside County against that county and their ES&S touchscreen system. She lost because she was arguing that no-paper-trail touchscreen systems were unsecure without having *details* to present to the court as to how or why they're unsecure. She was, in effect, acting based on the "theoretical" concerns of computer security professionals, etc. Subsequent events have proven her 100% correct; after Diebold's code "escaped" as facilitated by Bev, somebody else found a one-rev-back set of Sequoia code which was as stenchful as anything Diebold has come up with...and California law does require the ability to do recounts which the paperless touchscreens can't...but her judge was chicken :rolleyes:.

The court in that case wasn't going to order a voting system thrown out based on "theoretical" concerns.

Bev and I have *way* more than theory, folks!

Back in January of '03, Bev Harris was the one who found 40,000 Diebold files on an open FTP site and downloaded them in three sleepless days non-stop. Everything we know about how sucky Diebold's security is, owes itself to that haul. And THEN, once the real fury started as people examined that stuff, an insider released 15,000 internal Diebold EMails (from their tech support and marketing list-servers) in which they gloat over the poor security.

For a brief intro primer on how bad the situation is, see also:

http://www.equalccw.com/sscomment.html

http://www.equalccw.com/sscomments2.html

If you want to download your own set of executable, installable Diebold vote-tally software "GEMS" and run it through it's diseased paces yourself:

http://www.equalccw.com/dieboldtestnotes.html

NOTE: it helps to have MS-Access v.2000 or above - the Diebold central vote-tally database is basically an Access application :eek: and Access can be used as a "hack tool" to edit the data any way you want WITHOUT NEEDING A PASSWORD - you can edit actual vote data and even the audit log without leaving footprints.

MS-Access doesn't need to be on the actual "GEMS" machine at each county HQ - there is remote access into that box available to Diebold and they can run the Access application on the remote machine that's dialing in.

Anyways.

Point is, Bev and I have evidence for miles that Susan Marie Weber lacked.
 
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I'm watching the DU thread in disbelief. They're clearly monitoring this thread, so consider this a general message:

I'm not going to apologize for who and what I am. The "Viacom" comment...well, that's a very long story :). Go google:

crossballs "Jim March"

...with the quotes like that.

Ponder for a second:

IF I had discussed what was coming with certain other activists to discuss strategies and "territories" so we didn't stomp all over each other in the same freakin' courthouse, and discussed tactics and timing as far back as November, that would be against court rules so IF I had done any such thing, I couldn't talk about it online had I theoretically done that.

:scrutiny:

What I can definitively say: I acted honorably every step of the way.
 
Jim don't let the naysayers get you down. They are just whining because they didn't have anybody smart enough to go the route that your team took. Now with the posibility of a payoff for your team and them with nothing, they are complaining. What is really cool about your team being in front is you initially went after a fradulent voting system strictly on that basis. Your team did it on your own nickle too. How many of these other activists wanted contributions so they could fight.
 
So you and this Bev person have not actually been to court?

So you and her have not had anything thrown out?

So Tinfoil dude is lumping you in with others who have attempted this sort of action?

So Tinfoil is confused or malicious?

Okay.


What about these other people saying Bev is launching character attacks on people who were doing the same sort of thing she is doing now?


If true it does not seem right.

Don't get me wrong I want Diebold to lose and all but is this Bev a stable person? Will she drag you down if she goes off the rails?



And OT what is with DU? So many posts have been deleted and people kicked off. What the Hell?
 
Qui tam - often used to find fraud involving Medicare or defense contracts - is a provision of the Federal Civil False Claims Act. Some states have similar acts.

Individuals tip off the government to embezzlers or shoddy contractors - and the whistle blowers get up to 30 percent of the reimbursement.

Qui tams are usually sealed for at least 60 days, and whistler blowers cannot discuss them. California allows individuals to publicize details of cases, but whistle blowers can't mention the existence of the lawsuit.


If the CA election officials who purchased these systems had full access to thier particulars prior to paying for them, where's the fraud. How are you going to prevail as a Qui Tam relater if the CA government either knew or should have known the systems were crap?

The CA government set the specs for this procurement contract, if they specified crap and got crap where's the fraud or non-performance on the contract by Deibold et al.?

Diebold sold about $114 million bucks worth of crappy, substandard and easily riggable voting systems in California. They advertized it as being secure - they lied. They said it was legal to use (fully certified). They lied on that point too...along with a lot of other points

Were the State and the Counties given evaluation copies of the Diebold software to evaluate prior to letting the purchase contract?

(BTW, Good luck. I hope you do prevail.)
 
Cool Hand Luke 22:36:

If the CA election officials who purchased these systems had full access to thier particulars prior to paying for them, where's the fraud.

The California gov't agencies didn't have access to the "full story". In particular, they didn't have access to the "source code" - only the Federal testing labs had such access, and Diebold deliberately *withheld* key pieces of their system from Federal scrutiny. The entire Windows CE system was one example, along with the software used to generate "smartcards". In another case, one of the testing labs actually CAUGHT a major problem, but we have Diebold's internal mails showing they passed it off as a non-issue while assuming they wouldn't be able to get away with it!

Swear to God, the internal EMails are often as bad as the "Enron audiotapes" making the rounds.

Again:

http://www.equalccw.com/sscomment.html

http://www.equalccw.com/sscomments2.html

Those are small SAMPLES of what we've got.

How are you going to prevail as a Qui Tam relater if the CA government either knew or should have known the systems were crap?

The "core issue" here is the fraud carried out against the Federal testing labs.

California elections law says that a voting system can't be used unless it passes the Federally regulated testing system. We can prove Diebold defrauded the Federal system.

Can you say "whoops"?

Now, after ALL of the complaining Bev and I (and others!) did, y'all should check out what the California SecState's office finally decided in April of '04:

In sum, Diebold:

1. marketed and sold the TSx system before it was fully functional, and before it was federally qualified;

2. misrepresented the status of the TSx system in federal testing in order to obtain state certification;

3. failed to obtain federal qualification of the TSx system despite assurances that it would;

4. failed even to pursue testing of the firmware installed on its TSx machines in California until only weeks before the election, choosing instead to pursue testing of newer firmware that was even further behind in the ITA testing process and that, in some cases, required the use of other software that also was not approved in California;

5. installed uncertified software on election machines in 17 counties;

6. sought last-minute certification of allegedly essential hardware, software and firmware that had not completed federal testing; and

7. in doing so, jeopardized the conduct of the March Primary.

http://ss.ca.gov/elections/touchscreen.htm - that was in the first part of the "Diebold Investigation - Staff Report".

BUT back in November, the SecState's panel was still treating Bev and myself as conspiracy theorists! It was the declaration of James Dunn that REALLY turned things around:

http://www.equalccw.com/dunndeclaration.pdf

Were the State and the Counties given evaluation copies of the Diebold software to evaluate prior to letting the purchase contract?

The state was, but since they assumed the Feds had properly evaluated the security, they didn't "kick the tires" anywhere near hard enough.

As one example: if you had a complete Diebold setup in front of you, it wouldn't be obvious that if you load MS-Access or connect to it with a PC running that app, then all security basically evaporates. One of the Federal labs DID discover this, but were too stupid to understand what they were looking at.
 
Here2Learn:

TFHP is a nut. Probably an employee of one of the voting systems vendors.

David Allen is Bev's original book publisher. He has severely ripped her off - I've seen the financial statements.

A number of other people denied Bev access to her own website for months. It's a long bloody story but there was definately fraud and theft of materials committed against her. The ONLY thing that makes sense is that there was an attempt to slow her down by people doing Qui Tams. Bev basically has more Qui Tam standing than *anybody*, myself included. Bev has strong suspicions as to which people were involved. I'm not going to comment on that because I don't have access to her server logs and the like.
 
I just heard a report about this lawsuit (no names mentioned) on KCBS (a big N. Cal radio station) so it must be big news!
 
Looks like Oleg Gets to sue somone, they used one of his captioned pics without giving appropreate credit & claim Jim made it....:rolleyes:
 
Wow Jim, great work, I'm truly happy for you and the voters of CA. You have definetly made the world a better place with your recent work. I'm proud to say I post on the same board as you do... very impressive.... then again most "gun" people are:D
 
Even slashdot is carrying the story

Diebold Sued (Again) Over Shoddy Voting Machines


Posted by timothy on Monday July 12, @08:35PM
from the can-we-postpone-the-election-for-bugfixing dept.
icypyr0 writes "Computer programmer Jim March and activist Bev Harris have filed suit in California state court against Diebold under a whistle-blowing statue. This is another in a series of blows dealt to the ailing company. March and Harris allege that Diebold 'used uncertified hardware and software, and modems that may have allowed election results to be published online before polls closed.' They are seeking full reimbursement for all of the voting machines purchased in California. March and Harris could collect up to 30% of the reimbursement, under the whistle-blower statute. In an interesting turn, the two are requesting that the state of California join the lawsuit. State officials have spent millions on the paperless touch screen machines; Alameda County has spent at least $11 million alone."


The reader comments seem to be quite positive so far.
 
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