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Because a .460 is five pounds, doesn't fit into belt holsters and is about as handy as a rifle.Why not just shoot a .460 SW Magnum? It can shoot any 45 Colt max loads65K max psi
A blurb about the .44Mag and .45Colt
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And yet people RIGOROUSLY defend the notion that the .45Colt is measurably more potent than the .44Mag. I guess some folks have to believe what they believe, no matter what.
The Grizzly Punch loads clocked 1450fps out of my SRH and that's pretty smokin'.
A 325gr WFN/LFN at 1275fps will kill anything in North America graveyard dead.
Buffalo Bore uses the Lehigh WFN's in their new dangerous game loads. I did test the 265gr .44 this time but didn't reference it in the OP. It has three "crimp" grooves and I used the middle one. Buffalo Bore used the top crimp groove and still got more velocity than I did. I'm working on getting info from Sundles on what powder he used. These all-copper bullets sometimes do t heir best work with powders other than H110, 300MP and Lil Gun. Lehigh lists their top load with Accurate #11FS. When I tested the Barnes Buster I did get a little more out of 300MP than H110 so I'll definitely try that again. I still couldn't break 1400fps with the Barnes at 100% load density.
The Grizzly Punch loads clocked 1450fps out of my SRH and that's pretty smokin'.
A 325gr WFN/LFN at 1275fps will kill anything in North America graveyard dead.
Has anyone tested either in ballistic gelatin and compared the wound channels? Velocities, kinetic energy and all that is nice and wonderful but I don't believe it means anything in terms of lethality. I believe in the big hole theory, so, what kind of holes do these cartridges leave, and is the difference significant?
People who shoot hand cannons must enjoy pain! Also, don't put your fingers near the cylinder gap, the blast will cut through a finger. .
People who shoot hand cannons must enjoy pain! Also, don't put your fingers near the cylinder gap, the blast will cut through a finger. .
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i'm using bluedot in my 45lc 265 gn. lead swc load. it only runs @ 1000 fps, but can be pushed harder if necessary. I also load that bullet in my 45 super load using power pistol (890 fps at the chrony out of my g30). power pistol, or longshot, are ball powders and don't compress with that 265 grain bullet in that short 45 super case (starline). those powders may be your ticket with the mono bullets. note: I chose power pistol in the 45 super load because longshot ran out of velocity before pressures got high. I got my velocity numbers with power pistol without the pressure signs (case ejection distance).
I also get 1070 fps out of a 230 gn. xtp with power pistol in that 45 super.
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i'm looking for a double action "graveyard dead" revolver in 44 magnum. the redhawk with a 7.5 inch barrel is next. thx for the help on that.
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hs-6 is another ball powder that might fit your need. it is a bit faster burning than the h110 type powders you are using and may get you to your velocity numbers before going overpressure.
note: most people use a mag primer with this powder. cci350 works for me.
luck,
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tim sundles answers your question on his www.buffalobore.com website. go to the "dangerous game heavy 480 ruger" page. he got five feet of penetration on a 2,500 lb. animal.
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I did not know these existed until this thread. (And shame on me, because I love the Redhawk)
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/813024960
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Redhawk with the scope mount cuts in the barrel? Those were a standard catalog item for years but you don't see them much. I always wanted a blued one.
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Yup, I had one and regret selling it. I traded a 4" Python for it, and still think I got the better end of the deal. I got it for a moose hunt (Minnesota, 1991) and worked up some nice hot loads with 300 gr. XTP's I didn't have a chrono, but the ballistics tables I consulted put them at @1250 fps. My Dad wouldn't shoot them out of his 629. He worked up his own wimpy 240 XTP loads. When he was cleaning up his loading bench, he gave me some .44 Mags he'd loaded up for his Ruger .44 Auto Carbine he'd had some years before that. I had to file the lead off the top to get them to not stick out the front of the cylinder of my Redhawk, but it took them without a hiccup. They had even more oomph than my moose loads, and were probably hotter then the velocities listed in the OP, because he used Blue Dot, and the OAL was much longer.
I had a Hogue grip and the Ruger V-notch/gold bead front sight set in it. I could hit a paper plate at 100 yards offhand with all 6 with that setup, though not rapid fire!
So many of the A vs B discussions devolve into " yes but A goes to eleven".
Most of the time either one is more than enough.
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There's a little evidence that 300MP and Lil'Gun are the same or very nearly the same powder. I believe they're both made by the same supplier. Personally, I'm not convinced they're identical, but do believe some of the speculation that they're very similar.
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Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester/Olin are known to be in bed together with several powders that are marketed by each. Such as H110/296, HP38/231 and I forget what else HS6 is marketed as. Most of those come from the St. Marks plant. I don't know of any such goings on with Alliant.
One difference off-hand is that Lil Gun requires a magnum primer but 300MP does not. I'd have to study them physically and their respective data to comment any further.
One difference off-hand is that Lil Gun requires a magnum primer but 300MP does not. I'd have to study them physically and their respective data to comment any further.
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