A Grudging Review of the Glock 19

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A Grudging Review of the Glock 19:

First a little bit about myself, so that there are no misconceptions about my expertise in reviewing firearms. I have none. I’m an overweight, middle-aged lawyer. I’m not a “high-speed, low-drag operator,” and I never will be. If I had wanted to be one of those, I would have to have taken an entirely different life path about 25 years ago. I’m lucky to get to the range every couple of months, between a wife, child, and a job that’s trying really hard to work me to death. I have also failed the Unlimited Budget Test in this lifetime, so shooting hundreds of rounds every couple of weeks just doesn’t happen for me. Despite my best efforts to convince them to do otherwise, my wife and daughter insist on eating every day. If you’ve read many of my posts, you probably realize that I am not a Glock fan. I don’t want to like them, and I’ve spent 25-30 years not wanting to like them. I’m old enough that I remember the Glock Scare of the mid-1980s, when we heard rumors that Glocks could be carried through an airport metal detector without setting it off. I like wood. I like steel. I like Parkerized and well-loved guns. I'm not so fond of plastic.

With that said, a couple or three years ago, my main carry pistol was in the shop, getting some new sights, and a buddy of mine offered to loan me a pistol so that I’d have something to carry. I took him up on his offer and then, somewhat to my dismay, he brought me a Glock 19. Well, since beggars can’t be choosers, and I had nothing else suitable for that function, I gratefully accepted the loaner, and off I went. I was well aware of Glock’s reputation for reliability, and I decided that it’d be OK for a couple of weeks. I thought maybe my friends wouldn’t find out, that maybe if I wore a ball cap and fake mustache, they wouldn’t recognize me at the range. I carried it for a couple of weeks, using a simple Fobus paddle holster that he loaned me to go with the gun. At the time, I don’t think I owned a proper gun belt, a condition which I have since rectified. My normal carry pistol came back to me a few weeks later with new sights, and I returned the G19 to my buddy. I never did get to go to the range with that G19, which he has since sold, but I do recall thinking that it was awfully light for a pistol holding 15 rounds, and in spite of not owning a proper gun belt.

Well, fast forward to around May 2013, and I found myself in the market for a polymer 9mm. After much research, I settled on the Gen 4 G19. As I mentioned above, I now own a proper gun belt, an Aker B21 to be exact. When the G19 arrived, it came with factory night sights, and a couple of spare magazines. I was able to get hold of a leather Galco OWB holster, the name of which escapes me at the moment.

When the Glock first arrived, 9mm ammunition was notably absent from the shelves around here. I had to call in a favor from a buddy just to score some steel-cased TulAmmo. Fortunately, that shortage didn’t last long around here, and by the time I was able to get to the range, I found about 100 rounds of 115-grain TulAmmo BrassMaxx. For carry, I snagged some 147-grain Remington Golden Sabers.

First Impressions:
1) It feels weird in my hand. I’m much more accustomed to all-steel pistols. I CC’d a full-sized steel pistol for a couple of years. By comparison, the G19 feels top-heavy. It wants to flip and flop left and right. There’s no counterbalance to the steel slide in the (very) lightweight polymer frame. At least, that was my impression when I first pulled it out of the case. I also discovered that it’s a self-correcting issue. As soon as you put in a fully loaded magazine, the balance feels just fine.
2) The factory night sights are nice and bright. When I did the proverbial Bathroom Night Sight Test, they’re easy to pick up.
3) The grip feels good. The size is just about right, and I have hands that I’d rank on the small side of medium. I tried both of the backstraps, but finally decided that I’m best off without them installed. If I have even the medium backstrap on the pistol, I have to shift the gun in my grip to hit the mag release.
4) Finish: I’m a long-time fan of zero-maintenance finishes. Nickel and blued guns are pretty, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to put in the work necessary to keep them shiny. The G19 is an even flat black. Despite my initial feeling that the polymer frame messes up the balance of the gun, I realize that, perhaps, I could come to like the polymer frame for the same reason that I like zero-maintenance finishes. The finish on the slide is not as tough as I expected it to be, however. After about 4 months of carry, I started noticing that the finish on the extractor had worn off. Personally, I find holster wear to be sexy, so it didn’t bother me. I just didn’t expect it to happen quite so fast, given the Glock reputation.

Cleaning!
Prior to this particular pistol, my only two experiences with Glock had been: (a) the loaner that I carried for a period of weeks; and (b) shooting one magazine of .40 out of a buddy’s G23 at the range. I’d certainly never stripped one for cleaning. Still, it had to be done. I don’t like having to pull a trigger in the house . . . for any reason, and that includes field stripping a pistol. Still, it had to be done, so I checked the chamber about 7 times, decided that the gun really was empty, and that it really was OK to pull the trigger. Now, I may have mentioned this before, but I’ll say it again: I am “mechanically reclined.” Aside from a cosmetic restoration of a 1965 Ford Mustang many, many years ago, I don’t really get along with machines that need fixing. I’ve been working to improve on that, but I’m just not a natural with a wrench. As a result, it took me a few tries to get the slide “just so” with the doohickeys on the sides (that’s the technical term) pulled down just right to get the slide off. But after a few minutes, off it came. At that point, I realized that this was really Field Stripping for Dummies. I suppose you could fully disassemble it into however many parts it has, but the G19 basically pops apart into 4 parts: slide, barrel, recoil spring assembly, and grip. Since I didn’t clean the magazine as part of the process, I ignored it for counting purposes. There weren’t any small, easily-lost parts and it would be really difficult to get any of the parts put back in the wrong way.

Range Day!
I took the 50 rounds of steel-cased TulAmmo & 100 rds of BrassMaxx and some Remington Golden Sabers out. The first shot went bang, and I immediately had a failure to feed. That was disappointing, but in all fairness, the FTF was totally due to the ammo. After the first round, the bullet in the second round separated from the case when the nose hit the feed ramp, dumping powder down into everything below it, and jamming. After that, I had zero malfunctions that day. Instances of Brass-To-Face Syndrome: Zero. I didn’t measure any of my groups, but bullets went where I pointed, and any inconsistencies could just as easily have been attributable to the shooter. I went thought most if not all of the 150 rounds of FMJ that I took to the range that day, as well as a magazine's worth of Golden Sabers. The G19 ate them indiscriminately. I did not have another hiccup.

Recoil is perfectly manageable. It never did kick real hard, but there’s a noticeable difference between the 115-grain FMJs and the 147-grain Golden Sabers. Shooting the 115 grains was fine, but the 147-grains made it downright easy. For lack of a better phrase, the heavier bullets seemed to muffle the recoil impulse.

I’ve been back to the range three or four times with the G19 and have, oh, maybe 300-350 rounds through the G19. With the exception of that first ammo-related jam, it ran flawlessly. At the distances up to about 25 yards, accuracy was well within acceptable parameters. It put holes where I pointed it, plain and simple. I don't think I shot it beyond 25 yards, so I can't speak to its accuracy further out. Truth be told, the G19 that I took to the range may be capable of much more accuracy than I can wring out of it. I’m just not a good enough shot to tell. I never did have a single instance of BTFS, by the way.

I’ve read lots of complaints about Glock triggers. The only other Glock I’ve ever fired was a friend’s G23. The trigger on that one felt “crunchy,” like it had sand or grit down in the mechanism. (I later learned that my friend didn’t know how to field strip his Glock for cleaning, so it may well have had sand or grit in the mechanism.) The G19 trigger really isn’t bad, though. It’s certainly not in the same league with a top-of-the-line 1911, but it’s not nearly as bad as I expected, given the complaints I’ve read. It’s a trigger that I could get used to in fairly short order, even if I never came to love it.

The other comlaint I've always heard about is how "Glocks feel like 2x4s" in the shooter's hand. While I've held more comfortable grips, this one doesn't bother me. Much like the trigger, I could get used to the grip, even if I never came to love it.

Final Thoughts:
There's a certain allure to the G19's simplicity, and its utilitarian nature. I don’t want to like Glocks. I really don’t. I’m afraid that I’m beginning to understand some of the appeal, though. Just don’t tell my friends. ;)
 
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I have always refused to own a Glock. When I first got into looking at handguns several years ago I was told by a couple of gun store jockeys that "if it in't a Glock it's a block". I took this statement as an insult to the Colt Trooper 357 and Colt Detective that I owned and never forgave Glock for the "fanboys".

I have fired several Glocks and they all were fine guns. Not great. Not a Colt Trooper. Not a Hi Power. Just guns that perform as they are intended.

I still don't own one and may never buy one. Then again I may buy one next week.
 
I guess Glocks are kind of like Harley's, you either love 'em or you could care less. I know that they are an extremely popular platform for law enforcement and personal defense and they have a reputation for reliability that Harley owners can only dream about, but...I think I'll stick with my 1911's and my Yamaha.
 
The other comlaint I've always heard about is how "Glocks feel like 2x4s"

I've always felt this was an odd complaint. Compared to a 1911, Glock grips are downright rounded in the hands.

The G19 trigger really isn’t bad, though. It’s certainly not in the same league with a top-of-the-line 1911, but it’s not nearly as bad as I expected, given the complaints I’ve read.

No, it isn't as good as a tuned 1911 trigger, but on par with most factory 1911's. There is a bit of take up on a Glock, but after that I'd compare the 5.5 lb Glock trigger very comparably to most 1911's I've shot. Accuracy is about the same as most standard 1911's other than those set up specifically as target guns as well.

You didn't mention the grip angle lots of folks complain about. After WW-1 there were complaints among soldiers that the 1911 did not point naturally. Lots of soldiers were hitting low. A series of tests showed that soldiers hit more naturally when the arched mainspring housing was used instead of the flat one in the original design. This was changed in the 1920's and was standard on 1911's for years. The flat MSH commonly seen today didn't become fashionable until fairly recently. A glocks grip angle is very, very close to a 1911 with the military arched mainspring housing.

When you get right down to it the closest gun design to a Glock, is the WW-2 era 1911.

I was one of those who was reluctant to try one too. I ran across a great deal on a used Glock several years ago. I got it at a price that I knew I wouldn't lose money on if I didn't like it. It took a few boxes of ammo to adjust to the grip and trigger, but once mastered I wouldn't go back. Currently own 5. I will admit that I LIKE my 1911's and Sig pistols better. But if there is a bump in the night one of the Glocks is what I'd reach for.

One phrase I read over on Glocktalk a few years ago sums it up pretty well. "My Colts and Kimbers are the guns I show to my friends, my Glocks are the guns I show my enemies".
 
hatt said:
Never heard Glocks compared to Harleys. Pretty sure Harley = 1911. Glock is a basic Honda.

Actually my warped mind was comparing the "Glock" to the Harley in that they are what everybody thinks that they just have to have. If on the other hand you're comparing reliability then you're correct they are more comparable to Honda or Yamaha. No matter what basis you use for comparison the 1911 would never in my opinion equate to Harley. 1911's seldom throw parts off on the highway, ruin your clothes spewing oil or cause you to call your credit card company regarding an increase in limit prior to taking your 1911 in for "standard" service.

In case you're wondering I do own an old school chopper with a foot clutch and a rigid frame holding the venerable Harley engine and yes as usual it's broken right now, that's why the Yamaha goes on the road with us in the winter along with the 1911's.
 
First off I'm not a G***k fanboy, that being said I own two of them, a 19 with 4054rds though it and a 30sf with 316rds though it. I do like them for the no frills look about them. Only have had four malfunctions, (yes fanboys G***ks can malfunction), with the 19, three where with reloads and one was while seeing if it could fire underwater(WAIT TIL YOU DON'T SEE ANY BUBBLES BEFORE FIRING). Also love holster wear. I have got use to how they feel to the point most other guns feel weird. Glad your's is working out for you!
 

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They are what they are.

Try getting into some form of competition like IDPA or USPSA, or take a couple multi-day training classes at a decent shooting school (like Thunder Ranch or Firearms Academy Seattle or Frontsight, Gunsite, etc) and see what you think.

Interesting what happens to your handgun preferences when you have to perform under objective criteria, with someone else watching, the clock running, and a greatly reduced ability to alibi out for stoppages.

The 1911 is great if it is put together by someone with the savvy to do it right. In a two day pistol class, shooting 500 - 600 rounds, you see a lot of cut hands. When the 1911 was adopted, the "torture tests" for selection were about equivalent to what most people shoot at Gunsite to get thru half of the #250 class.
 
It came with the factory night sights, and I like them. I haven't had tons of night sights from which to form a basis of comparison, but I can pick them up pretty easily in the dark.
 
Although I usually enjoy the verbose, hypersesquipedalian ramblings of attorneys, I just can't make myself read 1000 words, when I'm pretty sure that 50 would have sufficed. :evil:

Besides, I've fired over 300k rounds through my Glocks, so I'm obviously pretty satisfied with my Glocks. ;)
 
Thanks for the review.

Glock's have always been a love-hate thing. Either you love them or you don't. I've owned and carried a G19 myself and couldn't get accustomed to it. I've always been a M&P/XD guy.

I will admit Glocks are very reliable, but damn their ugly!!!

Give me an H&K USP or 1911 any day...
 
I swore I would never own a glock until I shot a friend's 19. I bought a new 19 that came with 3 mags. (blue box). Price was $419. plus tax. Good enough for "glock perfection". First time out brass to my face and everywhere else plus stove pipes. Sent it back to glock twice before they replaced the ejector and extractor (ejector no. 30274 and ditched the 336). Pistol is 100% now and for the money I can afford to buy as much ammo as I want. Easy to take apart to clean, just too bulky for cc for me anyway.
 
I’m not a “high-speed, low-drag operator,” and I never will be.

That part was greatly appreciated. You're in the same boat as about 99.9% of the people in here. Now, if they'd ever figure that out we could all have civil adult conversations about firearms.

Great review.
 
My assessment of Glocks is very similar to the OP's. I resisted buying one for a long time, mainly because every time I thought I was ready I'd hold one, and couldn't get past the 2x4 grip.

I finally broke down and bought a G19 about a year ago, and the first time I shot it I went "oh, that's why they are so popular". Very little recoil, very accurate, and the grip angle more or less became a non-issue once I started shooting. Takedown is simplicity defined, though I do have the same reservations about pulling the trigger inside the house. I kinda like the utilitarian looks, but to each his own.

The more I shoot it, the more I like it. I won't necessarily say it's my "favorite" gun (that honor currently belongs to a CZ-75 Compact) but if I was forced to only keep one gun, the G19 would be it.
 
I enjoyed your review, Spats. Thanks for making an interesting and enjoyable review of a gun that has been around for 25 years or.

My reaction to the introduction of the Glock was totally opposite from yours. At the time, I had been a confirmed 1911 and magnum revolver guy for years but I wanted one of those plastic pistols...badly wanted one despite the alarmist journalist reports and handwringing of the uninformed scare mongers. The G17 seemed a bit large to me but the G19's size looked perfect when it came along. I saved my pennies until I finally bought one in 1990 and immediately learned to love it. The G19 proved to me that autoloading pistols could be reliable and totally depended upon for self protection--something the 1911 had failed to do. In time I learned other pistols could be as reliable but none combine that reliability with such simplicity.

Again, thanks for the review.
 
Great review.....I carried a G23 as a LEO for many years. After I retired, I switched to a Kahr PM9. In the last year or so, I got back into the Glock game.

I started out with a G36 and then picked up a G19. Eventually I traded of the G36 for a G26 and couldn't be happier!

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Well crafted, refreshing, fun read, Spats. Nice job!

In 1994, I walked in and bought my first pistol from a gun shop where I had to do paperwork and watched in curiosity as I experienced "the process" for the very first time. That gun was a Glock 19, serial number AVG***, and it is still one of my favorite pistols I own. Actually, it may be my most favorite now that I think about it. Many pistols have come and gone, but this has stayed faithful the entire 19 years.

In fact, I recently went back to carrying it again after putting fresh Trijicon HD sights on it. It's a love affair I don't see ending anytime soon.
 
Glock love

My 1st semi auto pistol was a S&W that I bought from a LEO buddy. At 25 yards I could barely keep all the holes on the paper. I sold it and had nothing but revolvers for another decade or so. After a lot of online research I finally bought a G22. I've had a beautiful Colt Commander come and go, it was a really nice piece but it didn't do anything the Glock wouldn't do and it was heavier with lower capacity ( And I don't think the .45 has any advantage over .40 )
Two years ago I got an M&P40c. I just spent $100.00 and an evening doing an Apex trigger job, trying to make the trigger as good as my Glock, it's now almost as good.
IMO Glocks may be homely, second only to High Point but they are a well designed tool. I see 1 or 2 more in my future.
 
As many of you here have seen my photos of my S&Ws, Colts, and Rugers, I do own a passel of them.

Colt 1911s and SIGs along with a Browning P-35 (I just can't ignore that gun) and some odd ball Ruskie/German guns.

BUT, I pack a Glock.

See long time ago I was in IPSC. Used 1911 and just got tired of the jams. Not only my gun but alot of other gents guns jammed unless they spend $1000 for some smith to get them to run right (Series 70's mostly.)

So I went to the P-35 High Power. My P-35, a strait bone gun with adjustable factory sights just ran and ran and ran. No gunsmith, no tweaking. I only took out the magazine safety.

I really appreciated the reliability even after 500 rounds and no cleaning.

Later I went into IDPA as the race guns started crowding out the real combat pistols.

And I tried a Glock. I had read it could go well past 100,000 rounds (the P-35 can't, I can say from experience.) Well the Glock just ran and ran and ran. Well past the 100,000 mark with full powered loads.

Impressed? You bet 'cha! And I could take it apart easier than even the P-35!

So I have used Glocks since Gen 2. Never a bum Glock.

Yes they ain't no fine Colt or S&W of older years but they are top combat pistols.

Deaf
 
I'm a 1911 guy myself, have the same series 70 I bought new when I turned 21 (many years ago). I too hated the Glock, just because of what it is.

I do some armorer work for the people that the OP wrote of in his 1st paragraph. Now after seeing the abuse these pistols can take, how easy they are to work on and talking to friends who have used them; I am serious considering buying a G19.
 
Those Glocks grow on ya, don't they? Used to fire a guy's G19 at the range once in a while when I let him fire a couple of my pistols. His gun had I forget how many thousand rounds through it and ran like a champ. Next thing I knew I wanted one... So almost 2 years ago I got a new Gen 3 G19. This one runs like a champ also. Only problem ever was a couple failures to feed properly with Tula steel case 9mm. I guess it was the reliability/dependability/simplicity thing about Glocks that made me want one. To me they have their own sort of "uniqueness" about them. Like 'em or not, they're good shooters.
 
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