A message from Remington CEO

He talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. He was part and party to the destruction of Big Green. He was in with those suits, some of whom are still with Roundhill.

They gonna have to work very hard to convince me they got their act together..and that would start with quality firearms. From what I've heard..they are not there yet.
 
RemArms LLC will not get one dime from me until Ken D'Arcy is gone!

D'arcy was the last CEO of Remington Outdoor Company after the first bankruptcy and as far as I can tell was brought in by the owners (JP Morgan Chase, and Franklin Templeton) to get them out of the gun business as quickly as possible even if that meant breaking up the company in a second bankruptcy auction, as happened. He was never there to save the company, he was there to save the bank's money and reputation and line his own pockets in the process.

After the second bankruptcy ended Remington Outdoor Company . Ken D'Arcy with the help of a friend buys the Ilion facility out of the bankruptcy for only 13 million dollars. Ilion is a 1 million sq ft facility and this included all the machines (except a few of those that went to Ruger). There is more than 13 mil in hammer forges on the first floor of one building (there are at least 16 buildings at Ilion). Ruger pay over 30 million for Marlin and only got the trademark/copyright, some technical data packages, and a handful of machines from Ilion and Huntsville. Sierra bought Barnes for over 30 million for a small 50,000 sq ft facility that makes bullet and has limited ammunition production. 13 million was a song and now he gets to be the FUDD CEO of the "new" Remington.

No thanks, my money will go to a company led by people I can respect.

RIP Remington...
 
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I was a big Remington fan for many years. In 2012, a friend bought one of their 5R 223 rifles and it shot terrible, then I bought a 783 223 and it shot poorly as well. Remington fixed it for me then went under.

I'm hoping they can improve the product and get back on track. Time will tell.
 
I feel Remington has lost its reputation past the point of no return. At this point its a "zombie brand" like Kodak, Craftsmen, or RCA. The name still exists, and dupes some people into thinking they are getting the quality of the original product, but its not meaningfully related to the original. I think there is a good case to be made that such brands should be prohibited for truth in advertising reasons, but that aside I would not buy one of their products now. Which is a shame because I was interested in the double stack 45 recon commander when they teased that several years back.
 
Boy I HOPE this is true. I really want Remington to be good. I have owned several Remington shotguns, with mixed results. I dream of the day they can make a fine American O/U like the 3200 for say $2K. I would give it a try. I much prefer to shoot American guns, and the decline of so many of our makers is a sad story indeed. They made some lousy firearms, and they need to make up for that.
 
I still like the 870 from a design standpoint. The quality suffered for quite some time, but I bought one of the new ones in 20 ga early in 2023 and it has been a good one.

I gave up on everything else years ago. Even if they get the quality back there are simply better designs. Now, if they get their R&D people to work and come up with something new and innovative, I might be interested.
 
jmr40 said:
I still like the 870 from a design standpoint. The quality suffered for quite some time, but I bought one of the new ones in 20 ga early in 2023 and it has been a good one.

I gave up on everything else years ago. Even if they get the quality back there are simply better designs. Now, if they get their R&D people to work and come up with something new and innovative, I might be interested.
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Remington lost the entire R&D group in Huntsville when the company collapsed. They have all been swallowed up by the Defense and Space industry here and the few willing to move (again) have already moved onto other gun companies. How are you going to attract firearms engineers to a state like New York? Before D'Arcy killed Remington it was easy since Remington's R&D was in Kentucky for years before it moved to Huntsville in 2015. Both of those states were easy to get firearms engineers to move to, New York not so much.

D'Arcy also has no interest in new products. He is a prime example of a FUDD. He, and by extension, RemArms LLC will be content to keep making 870's and 700 and have no interest in being innovative. Remember D'Arcy is the CEO that chose to close Bushmaster and DPMS in late 2019 with 2020 an election year. Making AR-15's in an election year is like printing money and yet he choose (pressured by the banks/owners???) to close Bushmaster and DPMS in late 2019 despite the poor financial condition of the company and the fact that other than Marlin Darks the only thing being profitable for the company.
 
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Innovation? I'd like to see that. At this point, they have a lot to do just to catch up. Start by adding a side-mounted bolt release like just about everyone else who makes a 700 pattern receiver. I wish them well but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I bought a new 870 20 gauge a few months ago. Fit and finish is good, the matte metal finish and a darker wood finish look good together. The feel is like every other 870 20 ga I have held.

Unfortunately the indoor range I frequent stopped allowing shotguns after too many knotheads shot down the target carriers, and the outdoor range I belong to doesn’t let shotguns shoot on the 100 yd rifle range. It will have to be a desert run or a trip to the trap range with it to get the feeling of how it shoots.

I am a Remington fan, the brand is one that played a big part in my youth as a young shooter. I do hope they get it together and branch out into other guns/calibers.

Stay safe.
 
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Well tika and browning have been my prefered hunting rifles since mid 90's when remington started going down hill. Putting on camo and blaming suits dont mean much. I would like to see better triggers and barrels, and something along the AWR and sendero lines.
 
J-Bar said:
I would be delighted to buy a bunch of Remington #10 percussion caps. I will use their availability as an indication that Remington has seen the light.
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Remington doesn't make those, or even own the rights to produce Remington Ammunition. They lost all that in bankruptcy number 2. Federal bought all Remington ammo facilities, names and rights.

Sierra bought Barnes bullets.

End of story for Remington ammo
 
mcb said:
Remington lost the entire R&D group in Huntsville when the company collapsed. They have all been swallowed up by the Defense and Space industry here and the few willing to move (again) have already moved onto other gun companies. How are you going to attract firearms engineers to a state like New York? Before D'Arcy killed Remington it was easy since Remington's R&D was in Kentucky for years before it moved to Huntsville in 2015. Both of those states were easy to get firearms engineers to move to, New York not so much.

D'Arcy also has no interest in new products. He is a prime example of a FUDD. He, and by extension, RemArms LLC will be content to keep making 870's and 700 and have no interest in being innovative. Remember D'Arcy is the CEO that chose to close Bushmaster and DPMS in late 2019 with 2020 an election year. Making AR-15's in an election year is like printing money and yet he choose (pressured by the banks/owners???) to close Bushmaster and DPMS in late 2019 despite the poor financial condition of the company and the fact that other than Marlin Darks the only thing being profitable for the company.
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Bingo!

That dudes You Tube propaganda is just that..propaganda. He was a quilty party.
 
Megawatt maker said:
Remington doesn't make those, or even own the rights to produce Remington Ammunition. They lost all that in bankruptcy number 2. Federal bought all Remington ammo facilities, names and rights.

Sierra bought Barnes bullets.

End of story for Remington ammo
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Dang. Thanks for the education. I guess I quit cowboy action black powder competition at the right time. Remington percussion caps and STS shotshell hulls were my standards. Sad to have good products no longer available.
 
J-Bar said:
Dang. Thanks for the education. I guess I quit cowboy action black powder competition at the right time. Remington percussion caps and STS shotshell hulls were my standards. Sad to have good products no longer available.
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Remington ammo is still around. In fact, it's just ramping up production after the ownership changeover. It's still made at the same plants, and as far as I know..many of the same people.

I've never been a fan of Remington ammunition, never had good luck with it..however, their brass and especially their primers have always served me well.
I'm a reloaded bigtime..I don't buy factory ammo at all anymore outside rim fire stuff. So, I'm glad to see at least some Remington primers coming back.
 
Megawatt maker said:
I don't buy factory ammo at all anymore outside rim fire stuff.
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I'd sure like to see Remington come back out with their .22LR "Yellow Jacket" HPs. Those things really make messes of ground squirrels out to about 80 yards or so, and they run real well in the .22 LR rifles and handguns my wife and I have been slewing ground squirrels with during the past couple of springs.
 
mcb said:
After the second bankruptcy ended Remington Outdoor Company . Ken D'Arcy with the help of a friend buys the Ilion facility out of the bankruptcy for only 13 million dollars. Ilion is a 1 million sq ft facility and this included all the machines (except a few of those that went to Ruger). There is more than 13 mil in hammer forges on the first floor of one building (there are at least 16 buildings at Ilion). Ruger pay over 30 million for Marlin and only got the trademark/copyright, some technical data packages, and a handful of machines from Ilion and Huntsville. Sierra bought Barnes for over 30 million for a small 50,000 sq ft facility that makes bullet and has limited ammunition production. 13 million was a song and now he gets to be the FUDD CEO of the "new" Remington.
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If those are the facts, something smells rotten.

The more I learn these days and the more I know, the more I hate most big companies. And it's because of the ruthless people who run them, and how they are mostly hell-bent-for-leather to gain generational wealth for themselves, anybody and anything else be damned.
 
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