A Tactical Simulator, Open to the Public

[luzyfuerza]

These guys are in Heber City, only about 45 minutes from Salt Lake City.



According to their web site, the simulator is $75/half hour for up to two people.

They also offer a number of training classes around the country.

I've been looking for a simulator open to the public, and will definitely give this one a try.

 

[Kleanbore]

Can't see enough about what it is or what it can do to comment, but those youtube scenes are not what I would want for civilian SD.

 

[The Last Outlaw]

Maybe not completely ideal training, but it sure looks like fun, wish I had something like that around where I live.

 

[shafter]

Even if the scenarios aren't ideal for civilian self defense, there is still good training value in getting off of a square range. You've got to be more situationally aware and reactive to threats instead of engaging paper targets on your terms.

If they had some good law enforcement scenarios it could be helpful for people to see how it is out there.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Simunitions factors in the pain of being hit (they really sting) and is just much more realistic. I’m not convinced by this glorified video game. I’m sure they’ll make money thought.

 

[entropy]

They oughta put one in every bar in Wisconsin.

Seriously, I could see this being a step between basic marksmanship/SD drills on the live fire range, and Simunitions. But as a stand alone setup, no.

 

[Kleanbore]

Simunitions factors in the pain of being hit (they really sting) and is just much more realistic. I’m not convinced by this glorified video game.

Rob Pincus tried a 360 degree facility with realistic civilian scenarios at a Gander Mountain Academy and said that it was scary and realistic.

I’m sure they’ll make money thought.

The GMA ones did not.

 

[luzyfuerza]

A video simulator seems like a good way to test reactions to unexpected situations, angles, positions, distances, etc. IOW, it seems to be a way to test one's OODA-loop processor at a pace approaching that of a real encounter. The unexpected nature of these simulated encounters is VERY difficult to create in training, short of a FoF program.

This simulator is probably not as sophisticated as the system mentioned in this post by @Riomouse911, but I bet that I'll learn something worthwhile from the experience nevertheless:

I spent the entire morning today “shooting” on a VirTra triple 12-foot screen computer registered and interactive scenario trainer.
https://www.virtra.com/overview-le/
https://www.virtra.com/overview-le/
https://www.virtra.com/overview-le/
Everything from my reaction times, shot splits, the number of shots fired. are all counted. All CNS hits, solid body hits, poor hits, misses, hostage hits, etc. control the action of the suspect(s) on screen in real time. Every input (shot, spray, taser) is recorded, graphed and compared to the data from thousands of previous students that the makers used as a huge statistical pool. My movements and communication are triggers for the operator to alter scenarios as they unfold; some were non shooters, some were nearly unwinnable craziness…none today were easy.

I’m no gunslinging Wyatt Earp by ANY stretch of the imagination, but I’ve been doing the job for 30 years, with 27 in pretty darn rough parts of So Cal. I spent 13 years on swat/srt teams, lead rangemaster for past 10 and been run through multiple generations of video scenario training and in force on force encounters dozens of times (Even had one force on force course on extraditions that was held on a Boeing 727). I am fortunate to say as a result I do have a bit more under the belt in this realm than most folks and I have a fairly good idea of my own performance abilities and limitations when the chips are down.

The one thing I can say about a legally armed civilian getting caught up in a shooting situation at home or in public is; don’t bank on things unfolding like how you’ve planned over the years at the range. With humans there is never such thing as an absolute, and rarely do pre-made plans work out like you think they will.