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Academy Sports--I felt like a criminal

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I bought a rifle there about ten years ago.

I got the same treatment at the time. It's just their policy. They ARE pretty competitive on their prices for some firearms.
I can put up with a considerable amount of inconvenience to save a few dollars, and as long as the folks aren't actually rude, it's O.K. with me. I really don't want them to be my friends anyway.
 
I've bought from Academy, Bass Pro, and Wal-Mart, as well as local shops. The big retailers all walked me out to the door per policy, but all were very nice about the whole process.

The Bass Pro guy was especially good. Yes, sir. No, sir, etc. Very knowledgeable about the products too.

The local shops do not walk me out, but their doors are only 10 or 20 feet from the register.

Some doofus Bass Pro customer with earrings and tats, who loudly said many things that indicated he was an idiot, was in Bass Pro during my XD .45 purchase. The clerk was so courteous to him that is was amazing. The customer made you want to scream, but the clerk politely answered his questions (and bit his tongue as to goofus remarks about calibers and such).

As the clerk walked me out, I said, "I bet you hear more BS than anyone who works in this store."

Polite answer: "Yes, sir." :) That guy is a trooper.

I then walked all over the outdoor shopping mall, and inside several stores, with the XD tupperware marked in yellow tape: "High Capacity Magazines: Not Legal in California." Nary a cop or security guard ever batted an eye.

Life in the south. We get all kinds.
 
A friend with a first generation iPhone was comparing the accuracy of its "pseudo-GPS" against another friend with a true GPS-enabled phone. The iPhone did pretty damn well in the urban area where we were.

It stands to reason that the "pseudo-GPS" application uses cell tower triangulation, but I don't know what happens behind the scenes -- e.g. is it the service provider that does the triangulation and then provide an API the application can use, or can the phone get timing deltas and tower IDs directly and then use some other API to compute tower locations, or indeed something else...

In any case, I readily believe that tower triangulation can work pretty well for police use if the service provider cooperates.
 
I believe its the "yellow" form having to be perfect. Stores have to be Santa like and check it twice.
 
I remember when I bought a shotgun at Academy several years ago, the guy behind the counter had to get a manager and I had to be escorted to the register upfront with the gun. IIRC, the manager carried the gun to the cashier.
Sounds like just SOP what you went through, and no I didn't feel like a criminal. A large chain like that is going to have different procedures than the local gun store.
 
I don't mind the walking up to the front part at all. I wish they actually walked the gun up and out for me after the 10 day wait period too. It makes me feel like someone is carrying my stuff and that I, a gunowner, am getting the personal shopper and valet treatment.
 
I think they are afraid you might rob the store or something.With the registered gun...you just bought...from them.Sigh.Doofi.The sad thing is,in order for this to be store policy,it probably has happened.
 
It makes me feel like someone is carrying my stuff and that I, a gunowner, am getting the personal shopper and valet treatment.
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Yeah, notorious, I wish I would have looked at it like that because that will probably be as close to Africa and having a gun bearer as I will ever get.
 
You Know whats funny about Company policies, Like Walking to the Register with Employee when Purchasing Firearms. When you bring in a Trade and you end up not trading and walk out with it (By Your self) Don't make sense! + the sign at the front that says "Actions Open" Non of the stores actions are Open (What Gives).
 
I'm assuming it's a matter of theft.

Besides, the stores' firearms all have those ever vigilant trigger locks on them.
 
This is a funny story... anti-gunners selling guns... I don't get it...???

Anyway, my local Wal-Mart treats me like a criminal every time I go in there JUST FOR AMMO. They scrutinize me beyond reasonable levels, and are just plain rude. I could never figure out why they hate customers so much for buying what they are selling.
Anyway, I decided to pay the extra $0.50 per box and buy ammo from the gunshop. I won't even set foot in a Wal-Mart anymore. I would rather pay a little more to keep my dignity.
 
Given the benefit of the doubt, I have been to poorly run gun shops that paid little attention to the 4473 and let people goof themselves up, resulting in a denial. I mean check it over, tell the guy his name probably is not "Mike" but "Michael" right? The event I witnesses they didn't bother to tell Mike not to use his nickname, called in "Mike" and the guy had to come back in 3 days or whatever. So it could be that these guys had been lax from a customer service perspective and got somebody 100% legit delayed for lack of careful attention to paperwork. Maybe the guy wasn't a 4473 "Nazi", just a careful bureaucrat.

Just saying, if you walked out with the gun, you walked out with the gun.
 
Academy policy is that a manager, not a clerk must finalize the transaction. They also are required to escort you to the checkout and out the door. I suppose they don't want you wandering around the ladies ski wear section with a shotgun. I just bought a pistol there because they are the ONLY ones who had the Bersa thunder uc that I wanted, for a fair price. I can live with that. I also bought a case of 500 rounds of ammo at a different Academy store a couple of weeks ago and they scanned the case at checkout and it rang up the price for a box of 50, not a case of 500. I could have gotten to them for over $100. but I like to do the right thing so I pointed it out to them. The checkout clerk didn't even say thanks, but I'd do the same thing again.
 
Whenever I go to Walmart they just chuck the Winchester White Boxes at me (not literally), and i'm on my way.
 
My FFL is very careful about that form, dotting all I's and crossing Ts, since the feds showed up unannounced one day and did everything but bend him over. A week later, the state DOJ guys did the same thing (by now you can prolly guess what what state I'm in-no haters, please). He came up clean, but now he makes doubly sure. Can't blame him, but the ironic part is he only does transfers as a favor and makes little or nothing doing them. He sees it as his part in helping to get guns in the hands of those who (legally) want or need them.
 
Given the benefit of the doubt, I have been to poorly run gun shops that paid little attention to the 4473 and let people goof themselves up, resulting in a denial. I mean check it over, tell the guy his name probably is not "Mike" but "Michael" right? The event I witnesses they didn't bother to tell Mike not to use his nickname, called in "Mike" and the guy had to come back in 3 days or whatever. So it could be that these guys had been lax from a customer service perspective and got somebody 100% legit delayed for lack of careful attention to paperwork. Maybe the guy wasn't a 4473 "Nazi", just a careful bureaucrat.

Just saying, if you walked out with the gun, you walked out with the gun.
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Yeah, I can definitely see that in this economic environment. Why miss a sale because of a preventable screw up? If someone was delayed, he or she might just leave and never consummate the sale. That said, I had a CCL which is cash 'n carry. But still they have to have the 4473 a de facto registration process if one subscribes to incrementalism.
 
J Hansman, you are not one of us in the California Underground Resistance Effort (CURE), are you? If so, glad to make your acquaintance, Tovarishch.

Just a reminder, in Red Dawn, when the Russians and Cubans took the town, the Cuban colonel who was trained in America told his soldiers to search the gunstores for "FORM 4-4-7-3. It is a registry of gun owners and the types of firearms they have."

More accurate foreshadowing and prophesy cannot be found, even by Nostradamus!
 
John828 said:
If someone was delayed, he or she might just leave and never consummate the sale.
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I would say that somewhere in the neighborhood of 75% of the folks I dealt with who got delayed never came back. It was surprisingly common- I don't know if folks thought it was embarrassing, or were just annoyed, or what...
 
Yeah, Notorius, I am a Golden Stater and have joined the resistance. However, when the invaders (domestic or foreign) come for my guns, they will find an empty cabinet that appears to have been ripped open by thieves. ;)
 
You will have an empty cabinet?

When the enemies, foreign or domestic, start their campaign of terror... I won't even have an empty cabinet... it's going to be... guns? What guns? You mean this super soaker? Here, take it, confiscate it and get it off the streets by any means! I hate guns... yeah... that's the ticket....
 
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