Activists On Both Sides See Walmart's And Others Policy As A "Middle Ground"

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22-rimfire said:
I personally shop at Walmart regularly. I haven't bought ammunition from them in years. I will continue to shop at Walmart. I spend more money at Walmart and Sam's Club combined in month than all the other stores combined on a bi-annual basis. I will not boycott WM because of an open carry policy, but I don't like their decision not to carry certain ammunition.
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Thank you for supporting those who want to strip away my rights and destroy the Constitution. You are hurting yourself and every other American who believes in freedom and liberty and the 2nd amendment.
 
The bottom line is that Walmart has declared itself as against gun owners and is allied with those who wish to destroy the 2nd amendment. If you willfully continue to spend your money there, then you are giving money to organizations who are for the outright confiscation of your weapons.

I cannot wrap my head around why ANY American who values the Constitution and the concepts of individual liberty and freedom would continue to give their money to Walmart.
 
Wouldn't want to arm wrestle the gal in the first video with 2 car batteries and a baby in her arms:what:; and WM is concerned about OC when they have these gals along the TX/Mex border carrying four (probably stolen) hanguns around??:eek:

Regards,
hps
 
BlueHeelerFl said:
What do you think of their plan to actively lobby for gun control?

Everyone seems to miss that part of the story.
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I don't think Walmart's stick is large enough to make any appreciable difference in regard to additional gun control whatever that means in reality. There is quite a lot of extremes being mentioned now in the media (ban semi-automatic military style firearms, require licenses to own and buy guns, red flag laws, extreme background checks, universal background checks, etc), usually by the Democratic candidates for president. They seem to have the microphone now. If WM truly wanted extreme gun control measures enacted, they would stop selling any guns, ammunition, or related items... hunting clothing and supplies included. I suspect when the dust settles, nothing significant will happen as long as Trump is president. But I will keep an eye on things as best I can.
 
22-rimfire said:
I personally shop at Walmart regularly. I haven't bought ammunition from them in years. I will continue to shop at Walmart. I spend more money at Walmart and Sam's Club combined in month than all the other stores combined on a bi-annual basis. I will not boycott WM because of an open carry policy, but I don't like their decision not to carry certain ammunition.
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AFAI am concerned, WM has every right to sell or not sell ANY product, for ANY reason in their stores. Their CEO, on the other hand, using his position to influence anti-gun legislation by joining forces with Bloomberg
"Walmart is a charter member of the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, organized by Walmart and Everytown for Gun Safety."
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, urging congress to ban certain firearms, etc. is a step too far.

I, too have shopped WM for decades, but have cancelled my WM credit card, unsubscribed from WM emails and have informed them of such and the fact that I do not plan to darken their doorstep in the future.

Regards,
hps
 
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We shall see what develops in the WM story. Yes, I'm interested. I am not a proponent of open carry in any urban area in stores or on the street regardless of being legal in my state. I still will keep my WM credit card.
 
It was not banning open carry that caused my decision to never shop at Wal-Mart again. It was partnering with Bloomberg and refusing to sell pistol ammo after their stock ran dry. You are not a business that supports the second amendment when those are put together. And I do not care what the CEO says otherwise.

I like the option of open carry. Even though I make a habit not to. When working corrections I open carried to and from work. Paddle holsters are not easy to conceal with a tucked in uniform shirt.
 
We all know Bloomberg is anti-gun. But how do we know that WM is "partnering with Bloomberg"? How do you feel about Target that has never sold ammunition to my knowledge? Does Costco sell ammunition? Basically there aren't a lot of shopping choices in my area that would not require a pretty extreme effort and would certainly be more expensive and take up a lot of extra time. Groceries... two other major choices; all significantly more expensive on a per item basis....
 
22-rimfire said:
We all know Bloomberg is anti-gun. But how do we know that WM is "partnering with Bloomberg"? How do you feel about Target that has never sold ammunition to my knowledge? Does Costco sell ammunition? Basically there aren't a lot of shopping choices in my area that would not require a pretty extreme effort and would certainly be more expensive and take up a lot of extra time. Groceries... two other major choices; all significantly more expensive on a per item basis....
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Follow the bouncing ball:

1) From Walmart's web page:
Walmart is a charter member of the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, organized by Walmart and Everytown for Gun Safety.
https://corporate.walmart.com/policies
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2) Bloomber is founder of Everytown for Gun Safety:
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Regards,
hps
 
And, it would seem that WM CEO's action has started the ball rolling!

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Chief executives of 145 companies urge Senate to pass gun control laws
Published Thu, Sep 12 2019 9:05 AM EDTUpdated Thu, Sep 12 2019 2:25 PM EDT
Amelia Lucas

Key Points
  • Leaders of 145 companies wrote a letter addressed to the Senate, asking for it to pass background checks and a strong red flag law.
  • Chief executives who signed include the CEOs of Uber, Levi Strauss and Gap.
  • The letter comes after Walmart stepped back from selling certain kinds of ammunition after two shootings at its stores.
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hps
 
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Let's see, Walmart is a charter member..... started in 2006. I never really heard a complaint until this latest business happened. You can make your own mind up about retailer support. Ultimately, Walmart can do whatever they want to inside their stores.

We have Food City grocery stores in my area. They are consistently more expensive than Walmart except on sale items. I seldom visit the stores.
 
LiveLife said:
There's always 600 Piggly Wiggly stores which support open carry :D:D:D - https://forum.opencarry.org/index.php?threads/piggly-wiggly-support-your-right-to-open-carry.89856/

Gotta love it! What a name for a grocery store. :thumbup: And I think their prices are better than Food City (Certainly better than our local prices, including Super Walmart) - http://www.pigglywigglystores.com/circulars.html
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You would think 'Piggly Wiggly' would frown on gun rights since there is no hog season and they can be hunted year-round with few restrictions :D
 
In my area, the only places you see Piggly Wiggly grocery stores are in small towns. Most of the ones I have visited were dirty an not well maintained.

We also have Publix stores here and they are well maintained and tend to be located in the more affluent portions of the area. Prices are generally high. They also have a no open carry policy.

Guess you need to stop using Google or any of the search engines that use Google as they are certainly anti many of the things we stand for. Amazon is another I'm guessing....
 
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22-rimfire said:
Let's see, Walmart is a charter member..... started in 2006. I never really heard a complaint until this latest business happened.
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And Walmart could have continued to sell handgun ammunition/short rifle cartridge and handguns in Alaska and not draw attention to themselves.

But no, they (Perhaps CEO and few in management) had to push their anti-gun agenda and stop sale of handgun ammunition/short rifle cartridge and handguns in Alaska to make a point - THEY did this to themselves.

We as gun owners are simply responding to what Walmart chose to do. Why make such a foolish decision when they didn't have to?

Why risk losing 20% of national ammunition sales and attract additional boycott by gun owners nationwide, perhaps worldwide? (Yes, they have Walmart all over the world)

Somebody bumped their head at Walmart.
 
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The way I see it, WM, being the largest retailer in the US, is looked up to and their open support for Everytown for Gun Safety (as stated in their "firearms policy") empowers other retailers to sign on to the call for some onerous new gun laws. They were not so public about their support for EFGS until recently, so most were not aware of it in 2006. :)

I firmly agree that any retailer indeed has the right to sell, or not to sell, ANY product in their stores, for ANY reason whatsoever. They also have the right to ban carrying of weapons on their premises. We have the right to choose where we spend our hard earned dollars.

To each his own, but personally, I refuse to contribute financially to any merchant who uses some of these dollars to undercut my God given, constitutionally guaranteed rights. My motto is, "Sell groceries, don't lobby" and avoid entering gun free zones, as they are, IMHO, just a magnet for miscreants seeking safe hunting grounds. YMMV :thumbup:

Regards,
hps
 
Texas10mm said:
I'd not heard of Brave. Thanks!
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It's an ad-free, privacy protection browser I've been using for almost a year. everything works except Amazon Prime videos for which you need to download their anti-copying extension. You will get awarded points for using it and I donate those to THR.
 
My impression is that a lot of the search engines use google too. I used to use DogPile a lot. Don't even know it they exist any more. The search engines can control what information you are exposed to.

Looked them up. Yes, they are still around.
 
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22-rimfire said:
My impression is that a lot of the search engines use google too. I used to use DogPile a lot. Don't even know it they exist any more. The search engines can control what information you are exposed to.
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Dogpile was a search engine that aggregated the results of other search engines asn so it used Google as one of those. Bing, DuckDuckGo and Yahoo are independent of google and DuckDuckGo does not track your searches.
 
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