Advice for deer hunting

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john fisher

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I'm going deer hunting for the first time in my life this Saturday. A friend of mine will be taking me and there's plenty of deer there. I'll be taking an old 30 30 and I'm hoping to take a nice doe. Please give me some advice when it comes to deer hunting, like where's the best place to shoot it and just whatever else that a first time deer hunter should know.
 
Where you shoot a deer depends on your proficiency and the capabilities of your rifle. Here are the shots I like:

1. A broadside shot just behind the shoulder gives you the most room for your hit and avoids ruining shoulder meat. The disadvantage is that it's a lung shot and the deer may run a little.

2. A neck shot minimizes lost meat and the deer will probably be DRT but the target area is a bit smaller than the lung shot. With the neck shot, it doesn't really matter whether it's a broadside shot or some other angle.

3. I also like frontal shots. The bullet if centered well and high enough takes out the spine so DRT. A bit lower and the bullet takes out large blood vessels, heart or lungs.

4. There are various other angles to the lungs for rear shots but you have to know the anatomy a bit better. For that shot, the bullet will ideally enter just behind the rib cage and angle forward through the lungs and perhaps exiting a shoulder.

I did do a "Texas heart shot" once. The deer died but ran a couple hundred yards and it's not something I'd try with a 30/30 (I think I was using a 25/06 for that one with Berger VLDs). That angle isn't one I'd recommend. I did it on a nuisance permit.
 
Do you shoot much from multiple positions? Are you practiced with this .30-30? Hopefully so, the deer are owed a clean kill. Tickle the armpit and don't take any shots that you don't KNOW will hit.
 
Sit in the middle, you won’t have to open up gates. Have fun but not too much, it’s easier to get up in the morning if you go to bed earlier. If you are stand hunting, clam down, watch the deer for awhile before getting ready to fire, even follow them with aim. It’s not a race and you don’t want to yank your shot due to “nerves”.
 
As for shot placement. I prefer either the broadside, taking out both lungs, or the shoulder when the deer is facing me at 45 degrees. BUT I'm using open, iron sights, not a scope, and I'm at 100 yards or less where I hunt. I don't like neck shots nor head shots as the deer is very prone to move those parts and a slightly less than optimal sight picture means I might not impact the spine, so the deer is going to flee and perhaps flee pretty far. Again, though I'm using iron sights.

Plan to hunt all day, especially in public hunting lands. Don't leave for lunch and come back and don't do a half-day hunt if you can avoid it, especially in damp and cold & damp weather. The deer can keep warm only one way, calories, and to get those they need to move. I've harvested about half of my deer in the past decade by staying in place on a weekday, when other guys have to leave as they only got a half-day off from work. When they leave, the deer, who have been hiding "in place" since dawn hear that, AND extra human scent drops off afterward. Some deer move off into private land and if you're there you get a shot, and some simply start to move on the public land since they need the food, and if you are there...you get a shot. A bunch of guys have told me "deer don't move from ten to near sundown", yet..., I've bagged several between 1 and 3 p.m.

Don't be a slave to every new gimmick that comes along. I like wool outer clothing, dull colors but not necessarily cammo, as cammo is made to fool human eyes, and when I move through branches or brush, wool sounds like hair when it rubs, since it is, and it's especially quiet when you move slow [hint hint]. (Gortex and cotton canvas make unnatural sounds moving in brush). ;) You will do better with wool clothing and breaking up your outline with natural vegetation by standing against a tree, or up against a hedge. You can spend $400 on a suit that makes you look like a bush, but if you're the only bush in the meadow, the deer are going to wonder why there's a new bush in the meadow. :confused:

For scent, I use plain lye soap, on me and on my clothes. I don't hunt in a tree stand as the meadows and abandoned fields where I hunt don't have large enough trees on the boundaries for such, and this also gets the deer close. (My most recent deer was on Jan 6th, and it was paced off at just 33 yards) IF you're really worried about scent, build a hardwood fire at home, and then hold your outer layer in the smoke for a few seconds. Works just fine, and lasts a while. Inexpensive too. The only other thing is cover your face with a dull color bandana or scarf (if it's cold). Deer will see that light color of your face move as you scan back and forth, even if you're standing still.

Lastly, go to the range, and practice. Find a good brand of ammo that's accurate and stock up. Try shooting not just from a bench, but from odd positions. Try also putting your non-trigger-hand against a post at the range (or a tree when hunting), and lay your rifle over that wrist, or put that same hand with the palm against a tree and lay the rifle into the crook of your thumb. When you do this with a tree, you become a standing tripod, very steady, and you can make a very good shot that way. I'd estimate that the number one "problem" hunter's have is they haven't done enough range time, and it's one of the simplest to fix.

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Take along a thin pair of gloves that you can wear while shooting, in your pockets take candy bars like Snickers, Milky Way, PayDay, Etc to snack on and a Little Debbie honey bun is great about mid-morning. Carry a pint of water with you at all times, and a pint bottle will last about a half day. The problem with plastic water bottles is that they are silent when they are full but after you take a drink they are noisy so when I drink I usually wait until I am thirsty and then drink the whole bottle. I usually keep a case of Dasani in the truck. Don't forget your binoculars because they are as important as your rifle. If you think you may have to field dress a deer put a pair of latex or vinyl gloves in your pocket.
 
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watch a lot of you tube videos of bow hunting and they will show you where to hit, how the deer reacts, etc. Get some trigger time in with that rifle, if its cold out get good warm stuff, pay attention to the deer as it approaches and get calmed down. Only take broadside shots 50yards and under.
 
As others have said:

Have you fired the rifle at a paper target? You owe it to the deer to know where your rifle shoots. The point of impact changes from one shooter to another. Knowing where to put the sight on the deer’s body means nothing if you aren’t sure where the gun shoots for you.
 
As others have said:

Have you fired the rifle at a paper target? You owe it to the deer to know where your rifle shoots. The point of impact changes from one shooter to another. Knowing where to put the sight on the deer’s body means nothing if you aren’t sure where the gun shoots for you.
I already shot it and sighted it in for the distance I'd like to shoot the deer. I most likely won't be shooting past 100 yards just because that's the distance I'm comficonf with.
 
I already shot it and sighted it in for the distance I'd like to shoot the deer. I most likely won't be shooting past 100 yards just because that's the distance I'm comficonf with.

Good.

Dont be discouraged if you dont see deer right away. Deer hunting is mostly sitting quietly until they show up. Sit still, move very slowly and quietly if you must move, and try to stay downwind of where you expect to see them. I see the most deer from 30 minutes before sundown to 30 minutes after sundown. Continue the hunt as long as your state’s regulations permit. Be sure to take a good flashlight with you.
 
Good.

Dont be discouraged if you dont see deer right away. Deer hunting is mostly sitting quietly until they show up. Sit still, move very slowly and quietly if you must move, and try to stay downwind of where you expect to see them. I see the most deer from 30 minutes before sundown to 30 minutes after sundown. Continue the hunt as long as your state’s regulations permit. Be sure to take a good flashlight with you.
I went to the place where I'm going to go hunt like a month ago, and we were target shooting and the deer still stuck around and it didn't seem to bother them at all.
 
Learn to do a rock or stump imitation. Other than vewwy, vewwy slowly, motion is a bad thing.

If at all feasible, take some sort of seat pad along for times when you do the sit-and-wait thing. Hard to sit still when your rump is chilly, or when little tiny pebbles come to feel like sharp-edged boulders.
 
I loved the advice from the famous archer, Fred Bear. I read this many years ago, so I'll have to paraphrase.

Don't eat meat for three days before the hunt because you don't want to smell like something that eats meat to the deer. And hang your clothes up outside the night before the hunt and let them harden in the frost. That'll diminish the human scent.

After giving this advice, he concludes with, and this I remember as a direct quote all those years ago, "Me, I never wanted a deer that bad."

For all the sage advice written over the centuries about deer hunting, if you can see and you can shoot, you're reasonably quiet, and you're in good deer country, the rest of it boils down to just plain luck.

When a buck goes into rut hard enough, he hasn't got enough sense in the moment to care about human presence. I'd hate for somebody to hunt me when I got in that shape.
 
I really like Steve Rinella's books on hunting and butchering big and small game. Read them both last year and even as an experienced hunter and processor of my own game I could not put them down.
 
Sit still and quiet. Desire point of impact is deer broadside, just behind the shoulder. Calm down.

Deer can see you in camo, if you're moving. Deer won't see you, in regular clothes, if you don't move.
Motionlessness is much more important than what you are wearing.

Hunt the dawn and the dusk. That 30-30 will be fine. Millions of hunters use them.
 
John, just enjoy your hunt. You will do fine. All the stuff u read is advice and stories. This is yours. 30-30 is a fine weapon. Don't forget the tenderloin. Cook rare with bacon and greens.
 
John, just enjoy your hunt. You will do fine. All the stuff u read is advice and stories. This is yours. 30-30 is a fine weapon. Don't forget the tenderloin. Cook rare with bacon and greens.
Hey thanks for reminding me, what parts of the deer taste the best?
 
what parts of the deer taste the best?

All of it! But in our household we have a bad habit of eating the tenderloins first, followed by the backstraps, (chops) and then other steaks/roasts. Trimmings are ground into "burger" with 10- 15% beef fat (or one can try cheap, fatty bacon, btdt, it is not bad by any means) or make it into any type of sausage that one could imagine!
 
Don't take a knife with you.....after you've taken a deer, tell your friends you forgot to bring a knife.....9 times out of 10 they will gut it for you.

(Heehee, that's how I use to do it until I took my own kids hunting, things changed after that.
 
From the side, right behind the front leg and one third of the way up from the brisket. Quartering away, same but visualize aiming through to the off shoulder. From the rear, no.
 
Hey thanks for reminding me, what parts of the deer taste the best?

I like the heart, ribs and testicles while still at hunting camp. Cut heart steaks to desired thickness and cook medium rare. Ribs go over a medium charcoal fire for over one hour until meat is well browned, almost crispy, and the meat can be peeled off the bone. The deer nuts are sauteed in butter.
 
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