Lightsped
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While I am fairly sure I will be buying a synthetic 10/22 in the next couple of weeks, I am curious as to if there are any other affordable 22 rifles that compare to a 10/22?
Affordable substitute for 10/22?
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cracked butt
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Save up the extra few dollars for the 10/22.
The base model Remington 597 sells for about $20-30 less than the base model 10/22. I've heard of others having good luck with them, but I bought one when they first came out and it was a complete piece of jam-o-matic junk. The Ruger has an endless list of aftermarket goodies that you can customize it with- that alone makes it worth buying.
Save up the extra few dollars for the 10/22.
The base model Remington 597 sells for about $20-30 less than the base model 10/22. I've heard of others having good luck with them, but I bought one when they first came out and it was a complete piece of jam-o-matic junk. The Ruger has an endless list of aftermarket goodies that you can customize it with- that alone makes it worth buying.
GlocksRock
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Marlin .22's are nice too, but nothing can touch the 10/22. You will be glad you spent the extra $20-$30 in the long run if you get the 10/22, there is soo much you can do to customize them, check out www.rimfirecentral.com and look at the gallery pics.
Wakal
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Yes.
Another 10/22.
Alex
Another 10/22.
Alex
Black Snowman
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Depends on the intended use. I got a cheap MagTech 7022 made by CBC in Brazil for $72 at a Galyans closeout sale since they've been bought out by Dicks. For it's intended use, practicing with iron sights at the indoor range when I don't have time to go to the outdoor range, it's just fine. Even with my bad eyes I'll still put 10 into an inch at 25 yards on the bench. I'm sure the gun is capable of better.
Came with two 10 round mags and the bolt locks open on the last shot. Magazine removal is a bit sticky but easy enough otherwise. Seems well made for the money.
My 22 rifle choice for precision shooting would be the Izhmash Biathlon Basic imported by EAA.
It's hard to beat the 10/22 for pure volume of fire. Lots of high-cap mags available cheap. Lots of aftermarket parts available for it, good if you like to tinker.
JMHO, it's worth what you paid for it
Came with two 10 round mags and the bolt locks open on the last shot. Magazine removal is a bit sticky but easy enough otherwise. Seems well made for the money.
My 22 rifle choice for precision shooting would be the Izhmash Biathlon Basic imported by EAA.
It's hard to beat the 10/22 for pure volume of fire. Lots of high-cap mags available cheap. Lots of aftermarket parts available for it, good if you like to tinker.
JMHO, it's worth what you paid for it
Mulliga
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Marlin .22 (I have the clip-fed semiauto). More reliable than a 10/22, in my experience, and just as accurate out of the box.
JNewell
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We've bought several Nylon 66s in the $100 or less range and had super luck with them. One needed a cleaning before it ran like a top, but the others didn't even need that. They were the 10/22 of their day and they're still really fine rifles. Some sellers today are overly attached to their 66s, though, so it pays to shop.
I had a Remmy 597 - hated it. It had MANY reliability and durability issues. Maybe the newer versions are improved, but I sold mine.
I bought a 10/22 mostly for the tinkering factor. You can change anything you want on that rifle to suit your needs/wants.
If you're looking to save some money and still get an excellent .22, don't overlook Marlin rifles. I had a Marlin 60 for a while (tube-fed, semi-auto) and it was probably the most reliable .22 I've ever layed my hands on. It NEVER jammed and was very accurate on top of that.
Another friend of mine has a bolt-action, tube-fed Marlin - model 9XX or something. That rifle is a thing of beauty. Great looking stock, great blueing on the metal, smooth bolt action. Also a very reliable and accurate rifle that cost him about $100 used.
I bought a 10/22 mostly for the tinkering factor. You can change anything you want on that rifle to suit your needs/wants.
If you're looking to save some money and still get an excellent .22, don't overlook Marlin rifles. I had a Marlin 60 for a while (tube-fed, semi-auto) and it was probably the most reliable .22 I've ever layed my hands on. It NEVER jammed and was very accurate on top of that.
Another friend of mine has a bolt-action, tube-fed Marlin - model 9XX or something. That rifle is a thing of beauty. Great looking stock, great blueing on the metal, smooth bolt action. Also a very reliable and accurate rifle that cost him about $100 used.
Your options for a new rifle are really the Marlin offerings or the 597. I own the latter (as well as a 10/22) and I highly recommend the Ruger. While the 597 is amazingly accurate out of the box (even shoots Aguila SSS into little groups), the reliability with it is hit and go. Mags are terrible and tend to hang when feeding, and the action gets dirty and will sometimes slow down cycling from the gunk and jam. These 597 problems seem to be strictly associated with the .22lr models, the magnum version gets great reviews. Plus, with a Ruger you can customize your rifle any way you want. The 597 is starting to build a base, but nowhere near as big as a Ruger or as good of a rifle in reliability.
sm
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If NOT looking to accessorize - but shoot...
Marlin 60
Nylon 66
Remington Speedmaster, older with great wood and blue.
Pump : Remington Fieldmaster. Accurate, again great wood and blue, Classic.
Marlin 60
Nylon 66
Remington Speedmaster, older with great wood and blue.
Pump : Remington Fieldmaster. Accurate, again great wood and blue, Classic.
Rupestris
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I got one of each. Couldn't agree more.
My Marlin came with synthetic stock, sling mounts and Williams FireSights for $129.
The Nylon 66 eats everything and has a removeable barrel for easy cleaning from the breach.
A shot of graphite or teflon dry lube and you're good to go.
CZ has brought back their semi-auto .22, the 511. BEAUTIFUL looking rifle, but a bit more $$$. It lists on their website for $370. I have been looking for a shop around me that has one so I can see one "Hands On", but so far I have not had any luck. Here is the URL for it. http://www.cz-usa.com/product.detail.php?id=53 If it is anything like the rest of their product line it should be a real tack driver and reliable to the point of being boring.
Right now I have a Rem. 597 that I paid $75 for at Wal-Mart a few months ago. Apparently it was a return from a customer that gave them such a hard time they gave him a refund on it. I know, I know.. I was just buying somebody's problem, but for that price I figured I would take the chance. Took it home, lubed it, and shot the fool out of it. Turns out he just had the rods that the bolt runs on too tight. Loosend them a little and have not had a problem. Yeah, there aren't as many options for it as the 10/22, but I got a heck of a rifle for VERY little $$$. And it shoots where ever I aim it. FUN, FUN, FUN. And like somebody around here said, ".22LR is better than Prozac."
Calhoun
Right now I have a Rem. 597 that I paid $75 for at Wal-Mart a few months ago. Apparently it was a return from a customer that gave them such a hard time they gave him a refund on it. I know, I know.. I was just buying somebody's problem, but for that price I figured I would take the chance. Took it home, lubed it, and shot the fool out of it. Turns out he just had the rods that the bolt runs on too tight. Loosend them a little and have not had a problem. Yeah, there aren't as many options for it as the 10/22, but I got a heck of a rifle for VERY little $$$. And it shoots where ever I aim it. FUN, FUN, FUN. And like somebody around here said, ".22LR is better than Prozac."
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Cindog
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Cz 511
I have not personally shot a CZ 511 but everything I have read about the 511 has indicated that it has a very heavy trigger that takes a lot more work to correct than the much more acclaimed 452's. I would definitely want to shoot one before I bought one.
I have not personally shot a CZ 511 but everything I have read about the 511 has indicated that it has a very heavy trigger that takes a lot more work to correct than the much more acclaimed 452's. I would definitely want to shoot one before I bought one.
JNewell
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Forgot to mention the breach cleaning feature!!!
Nylon 66s are the perfect "truck rifle." The only thing that affects their digestion is, ironically, over-lubing, which means almost anything since most of the parts move in/on the nylon receiver/stock.
Master Blaster
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Save the extra bucks and buy a base model 10/22 when on sale they are like 130-150 depending on your area sporting good purveyors. Later add a volquartsen hammer and get a great trigger.
They have great accuracy out of the box with cheap ammunition, and for a few to many bucks can be easily turned into a near match grade ubber blaster, in any configuration your heart desires.
No other semi auto .22lr comes close.
As far as cleaning goes, use a patch worm it does everything you need to do to a .22lr rifle. I put thousands of rounds through mine and love them, and only ever run a clp patch followed by two dry patches before I put them up.
I clean everything from my anschutz match rifle to my 10/22s with the patch worm pull through and always from the breach.
They have great accuracy out of the box with cheap ammunition, and for a few to many bucks can be easily turned into a near match grade ubber blaster, in any configuration your heart desires.
No other semi auto .22lr comes close.
As far as cleaning goes, use a patch worm it does everything you need to do to a .22lr rifle. I put thousands of rounds through mine and love them, and only ever run a clp patch followed by two dry patches before I put them up.
I clean everything from my anschutz match rifle to my 10/22s with the patch worm pull through and always from the breach.
musher
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At $139 on sale, how can you beat the 10/22?
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