Aimpoint Pro, Eotech EXPS3, Burris AR-1X, or Trij. RXO1SN?
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Aimpoint has a fanatical fan base, with good reason. You can practically bludgeon down a sapling with there optics and not loose zero. They are high in cost but cheaper than Meprolites and MARS type optics, typically competitive with EOTechs for cost. Their dot is simple, no busy nonsense. Usually have a simple knob for on/off and brightness, along with a stupid long battery life. They have been out long enough that most people know that their add gimmicks are true as well.
IMO Aimpoints are great for 50ish yards and a bit sketchy past that but usable. My buddy hits man sized steel with aimpoints to 500 yards, but nothing Tom Berenger like. I have never met a broken one in person, after 10 years in the Army and having been issued used ones, they are impressive little optics. I love EOTechs but to me, they are a bit more fragile for the investment.
IMO Aimpoints are great for 50ish yards and a bit sketchy past that but usable. My buddy hits man sized steel with aimpoints to 500 yards, but nothing Tom Berenger like. I have never met a broken one in person, after 10 years in the Army and having been issued used ones, they are impressive little optics. I love EOTechs but to me, they are a bit more fragile for the investment.
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If you read the forums such as M4carbine where there are a lot of hardcore AR fans, almost all will choose the Aimpoint and for the reasons that Skogtroll just highlighted. I just bought my first AR last month. When I get around to adding a red dot, it will be an Aimpoint Pro.
The EOTech I had did get knocked around a bit and as a result it lost ability to hold zero and be zeroed. Sad really because their reticle center zeroed for 50m/200m gave a spot on 7m zero where the bottom hash mark met the circle. Perfect for all my CQB hostage save headshot fantasies. Allas it is broken and passed on to my brother-in-law, and I am force to hold 2 or 2 1/2 inches high over target at pistol/hatchet range with my AR.
I saw one cracked bad like on their expose on the news about them better arming our troops with an RDS that can worked when smashed. Less impressive trait when you actually need to aim sadly.
I saw one cracked bad like on their expose on the news about them better arming our troops with an RDS that can worked when smashed. Less impressive trait when you actually need to aim sadly.
This is and will always be the Ford vs Chevy debate. I sold both, have been to both factories, and own both. My thoughts:
Aimpoint (in general)- If you need a long battery life hard as nails and then some optic, not not necessarily the precision, great way to go. Why do I say this? 2 moa dots just cant quite catch up to the Eotech 1 moa reticle.
Eotech- Great for accurate and precise shot out to 400 yards easily. 1 moa reticle is amazing for walking them out. Terrible battery life compared to the aimpoint, but no big deal for a target plinker or hunter, (yes, hunter). Also, the ONLY true holographic sight, so very forgiving with head placement.
I have a T1 on my truck gun short barrel, absolutely love it, and never need to worry if I have left the battery on.
Have a 551 on lightweight build, its a fun plinker and with a 3x magnifier, its a great out to 400. Also throw it on a 870 slug gun. It kinda gets bumped around.
That all being said, pick the criteria you want more. Battery life? True holographic? Open style? Tube style? You CANT go wrong with either.
Aimpoint (in general)- If you need a long battery life hard as nails and then some optic, not not necessarily the precision, great way to go. Why do I say this? 2 moa dots just cant quite catch up to the Eotech 1 moa reticle.
Eotech- Great for accurate and precise shot out to 400 yards easily. 1 moa reticle is amazing for walking them out. Terrible battery life compared to the aimpoint, but no big deal for a target plinker or hunter, (yes, hunter). Also, the ONLY true holographic sight, so very forgiving with head placement.
I have a T1 on my truck gun short barrel, absolutely love it, and never need to worry if I have left the battery on.
Have a 551 on lightweight build, its a fun plinker and with a 3x magnifier, its a great out to 400. Also throw it on a 870 slug gun. It kinda gets bumped around.
That all being said, pick the criteria you want more. Battery life? True holographic? Open style? Tube style? You CANT go wrong with either.
My brother-in-law is in the process of sending it back for free last I heard. I just went back to iron sights. So much cheaper and really performs the same in my hands, for good, bad and indifferent reasons.
XS 24/7 front sight post, I need nothing else short of a real scope. Cause I am done getting dragged over the coals by Trijicon.
XS 24/7 front sight post, I need nothing else short of a real scope. Cause I am done getting dragged over the coals by Trijicon.
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I'll take an Aimpoint Micro over any of them, at this point. Can be had used for $350. Has the battery life, the track record, the size and weight... just a great optic.
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The T1 and H1 both come in 2 MOA now, and realistically, I don't see much difference in my 2 or 4 MOA versions of the H1. Both give me about 3 inch groups at 100 yards, both are easy enough to use at further distances, and both of them are quick up close. If I need a bigger 2 MOA dot, I'll turn it up. If I need a smaller 4 MOA dot, I'll turn it down. But what I like so much over the PRO, and why I'll eat the cost difference in the future, is just how little FOV the body of the optic takes up. It's very low profile.
As for mounts, if you decided to go for a new one, it's very hard to beat one from LaRue. $626 from LaRue for an H1 with their mount, versus $617 almost everywhere with just the regular low weaver mount, or $608 or so for one without a mount at all. Plus, LaRue will send you almost $60 worth of other stuff, just for ordering. The mount alone is worth about $100, and is essentially free when you buy it bundled. I like it a lot, the QD is fantastic and returns to zero, and it's built like a tank. You could also check out the Daniel Defense mount, they were listed as discontinued at Brownell's and I got it for $50, and it's a great mount too. I like the LaRue better, but the DD is very light.
As for mounts, if you decided to go for a new one, it's very hard to beat one from LaRue. $626 from LaRue for an H1 with their mount, versus $617 almost everywhere with just the regular low weaver mount, or $608 or so for one without a mount at all. Plus, LaRue will send you almost $60 worth of other stuff, just for ordering. The mount alone is worth about $100, and is essentially free when you buy it bundled. I like it a lot, the QD is fantastic and returns to zero, and it's built like a tank. You could also check out the Daniel Defense mount, they were listed as discontinued at Brownell's and I got it for $50, and it's a great mount too. I like the LaRue better, but the DD is very light.
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I am a huge Aimpoint fan. We used them a lot in the Army and they held up fantastic in combat. The only one I can remember breaking was actually shot off the gun.
I am a fan of EOTech as well but I dont buy it because of my astigmatism. Without contacts or glasses the reticle just blurs all together. The Aimpoint dot warps as well but is still very useable to me.
Also I have seen a lot of the older 55x series EOTechs crap out when I was in the Army and as a LEO in our rifle program. They supposedly fixed that problem in the 55x series. That being said I know several people with the new EXP series EOTechs and none have had any problems with them.
I am a fan of EOTech as well but I dont buy it because of my astigmatism. Without contacts or glasses the reticle just blurs all together. The Aimpoint dot warps as well but is still very useable to me.
Also I have seen a lot of the older 55x series EOTechs crap out when I was in the Army and as a LEO in our rifle program. They supposedly fixed that problem in the 55x series. That being said I know several people with the new EXP series EOTechs and none have had any problems with them.
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