AIM's got No.2A Enfields!

[DMK]

This may be a dumb question, but can you shoot commercial .308 ammunition through these rifles? Seems like I read somewhere that surplus 7.62x51 and commercial .308 are loaded to different SAAMI pressures. (??)

SAAMI specs do allow .308 to be loaded to higher pressures(62,000 psi max) than 7.62x51 (50,000 psi max). However, that doesn't mean all commercial is loaded that high.

I'm not going to say you can or can't. Here's a few articles from www.surplusrifle.com on the subject. Read them and you decide.

.308Win vs 7.62NATO

.308Win vs 7.62NATO: Federal Low Pressure Powershock

.308Win vs 7.62NATO Part3

And here's a cool article on the Ishapore No.2A

 

[DMK]

Question - what's wrong with the metallurgy of previous Enfields? I have a 1943 Longbranch Number 4 MK1*, and it seems to be in great shape, and is certainly a shooter - one load gives me 1" groups at 100 yards!

Nothing is wrong with No.4 Enfields at all, as long as you keep them chambered in the cartridge they were designed for. Unfortunately, that particular cartrige is no longer available as economical, good quality surplus anymore. But 7.62x51 is....for now anyway.

I've got like 150 rounds left of SA .303 that I'm hoarding. I feel almost guilty shooting a box of it. On the other hand, I have a sizeable cache of Port, Aussie F4, and SA 7.62x51.

 

[Diomed]

Nothing is wrong with No.4 Enfields at all, as long as you keep them chambered in the cartridge they were designed for.

Not really true. Many No. 4s have been rebarreled to 7.62 NATO, and have - to this day - functioned quite effectively. Take the L42 and L39 for example, or the lesser-known L8 series.

The problem with reworking to use the NATO round was with the No. 1 rifles, which were not as heavily built as the No. 4s. The Brits abandoned this due to catastrophic failures in testing. India got around the problem by using better materials and treatments, thus the 2A series.

So, armoredman, don't worry about your Long Branch. You can keep putting .303 through it, and you can rebarrel it to 7.62 NATO when you wear it out.

 

[joab]

Mine will be here wednesday.

I recieved my $100 Brit made EnfieldNo4 MKI and $80 Yugo M48 last week from AIM as was very pleased with the quality.

I have been on a buying frenzy lately and really needto update my bound book
Also got three of Lipsey's Sistemas, they'renot as bad as you're hearing

I missed out on the AIM ufixem $50 to $100 Finns last week

 

[swingset]

I couldn't believe it, one of my holy grails came right to my inbox.

Had to quote that. Never ran into a person alive that thought an Ishapore was a holy grail.

Good for you though, you're easy to please!!!

 

[.45&TKD]

How effective is the sighting system on one of these?

I have a No4 MK1 with the micrometer sight that's great. But I've never shot a No1 Mk3.

 

[Diomed]

The pre-No. 3 rifles all have barrel-mounted open sights (notch and post), which includes the 2A series. How effective is it? Up to the individual.

You can get aperture sights that fit the receiver, but they're almost all calibrated for .303.

 

[.45&TKD]

How effective is it? Up to the individual.

So I guess these sights would be comparable to Mauser or Mosin sights?

 

[joab]

So I guess these sights would be comparable to Mauser or Mosin sights?

Yes, more Mausery but better


If you don't handpick the price comes to $182.95 total with shipping

 

[.45&TKD]

Do these things accept bayonets?

 

[Stiletto Null]

Yep.

 

[lwaldron]

I ordered one from AIM, then cancelled the order. With a 12-round detachable magazine, this rifle is against the law in California.

 

[Stiletto Null]

Are you sure any of the "Assault Weapon" criteria apply to bolties? For that matter, AIM flags any guns which are illegal in certain states as simply not sold to those states.

 

[.45&TKD]

I just ordered a hand picked one. Can't wait!

Regarding the 12 round detached mag question-I wonder if that is why they did not import these in earlier; needed expiration of AWB?

 

[Stiletto Null]

Beats me. They've been around for a while, AFAIK.

 

[joab]

Do these things accept bayonets?

Yes a big ole sword type bayo similar to the Winchester shotguns
http://www.southernohiogun.com/sacenf1bpop.html

 

[DMK]

Regarding the 12 round detached mag question-I wonder if that is why they did not import these in earlier; needed expiration of AWB?

Being bolt action and not semi-auto, these were importable during the federal AWB. They just weren't available I guess.

Quote:
I couldn't believe it, one of my holy grails came right to my inbox.

Had to quote that. Never ran into a person alive that thought an Ishapore was a holy grail.

Good for you though, you're easy to please!!!

I am easy to please. I've been looking for one for a long while and always missed out when they came up for sale on line.

One of my others was a SVT-40 and I just got a Finn last month.

Now, I just need a nice FR-8....

I guess my real holy grail is an original 7.62x39 CZ-52/57 rifle. But I'm not going to hold my breath that AIM will have those any time soon.

 

[iamkris]

DMK -- when you find a nice FR-8, look for two and gimme a ring.

I didn't get one of these when they were plentiful a few years ago and now they've all dried up. They are a true bolt action assault rifle.

 

[DMK]

DMK -- when you find a nice FR-8, look for two and gimme a ring.

I didn't get one of these when they were plentiful a few years ago and now they've all dried up. They are a true bolt action assault rifle.

If I come across two, I'll let you know.

A while back, I found a nice FR-8 at a gunshow for cheap, but as my luck would have it, at that very same show was a beautiful Pre-B CZ-75 and a Colt CCO. After a bit of painful deliberation, I realized the CCO was more useful to me than the other two, and buying it left me no money to get one of the others. Never saw another of any of the three again.

 

[peyton]

Need C&R HELP

I just returned from a wonderful vacation in a land of beautiful palm trees, and a lot of people who were trying to KILL ME. I wanted to find out if anyone in the Fort Hood area that has a C&R license can help me getting one of the Enfields in 308 that AIMSurplus has

Peyton

So many computers, so little air conditioning...

 

[Stiletto Null]

An irritant: I think you're (technically) soliciting a straw purchase.

 

[DMK]

I wanted to find out if anyone in the Fort Hood area that has a C&R license can help me getting one of the Enfields in 308 that AIMSurplus has

I'm sure you meant no harm, but a C&R licence doesn't work that way. It only licences someone to buy for their own collection. Buying a gun explicitly for someone else with a C&R licence is very much frowned upon by the ATF. If someone knows of a fair dealer near you, AIM could ship it to them.

But welcome to the forum peyton. Welcome home and glad you made it back safe.

 

[peyton]

Thanks for the C&R explaination

That's what I get for not reading up on this. I requested the C&R form from the ATF website, what is the turn around time for this?

Peyton

 

[joab]

Mine took five weeks

 

[longhorngunman]

Payton, call one of the local gunshops in the Killeen/Temple area and see if they will order it for you. Better yet, find one that does transfers for not an outrageous amount $20 or less, and order from Aim and have it shipped. Aim has to have the dealer's license on file, if not get the dealer to fax it to them. In the long run it is handy to have the C&R and will save you cash on other things besides old milsurp guns also. BTW Thank you very much for your service sir. Did you see any Enfields over there? I've heard Enfields and Mauser's still turn up from time to time.