Al Qaeda planning attacks in most well known Gun Free Cities

[ilbob]

Fortunately, the crazies we have had here were just that: crazy. If they were stable and disciplined enough in their mission, two or three shooters with single shot, bolt action rifles and modest scopes could both terrorize the masses and cripple commerce for a long time.

Yep.

other low risk yet high value targets are water supplies and sewer systems. it would not take much technical sophistication to compromise either without the use of a single bullet or bomb.

imagine 10% of Chicago without working sewers.

 

[Titan6]

You guys are all in cheery moods today.

Maybe it is just another... "you need us to protect you so badly so surrender your freedom now" coming from your favorite Uncle?

 

[ozwyn]

economic high value targets. Media and travel hubs with less ecurity than New York... makes sense to me.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

Even though the media says fullauto AK47s are on every street corner, getting ahold of one would be next to impossible for a foreigner. He would need the help of citizens to buy the semiauto AK and ammo.

Unless, wait...wait, he bought it illegally and then illegally converted it to full auto. I'm sure a terrorist would never do anything illegal like buy a weapon illegally though, it's against the law.

 

[scout26]

other low risk yet high value targets are water supplies and sewer systems. it would not take much technical sophistication to compromise either without the use of a single bullet or bomb.

Actually it would, Chorline is added to kill pathogens in the tap water, so you have to introduce literally tons of chemical or biological nastiness into the water supply for it to have any effect. Keep in mind that some/most potable tap water is recycled/treated sewer water.

I think someone would notice AQ (or another terorist group) pouring tanker loads of ickiness at the water pumping station. (Or doing the bucket brigade thing to the top of the local water tower )

imagine 10% of Chicago without working sewers.

Happens everytime we get a heavy rain. Sewers back up, basements flood and everyone grouches that "They need to do something." Taxmoney goes to those with clout/political connections, but the problem remains..........and everyone forgets until next time we get a heavy rain.

 

[MASTEROFMALICE]

Ever hear of the "ice cream causes murder" theory?

It's generally used to demonstrate when two unrelated items are somehow forced to correlate.

It goes like this:

1)More people eat ice cream in the summer
2)Murder rates are higher in the summer
therefore
3)Eating ice cream causes murder

Just because the two cities are anti-gun doesn't mean that is why they were chosen.

If you REALLY want to get logical, cities with a high percentage of liberals (i.e. LA and Chicago) should be spared as it would serve the terrorist's purpose more to kill conservatives. Why target allies?

 

[strangelittleman]

AQ would have to heavily consider the types of attacks they would carry out here inside CONUS.
What I mean is, it's to their adavntage for our "do nothing" congress to continue to fight amongst themselves and for our citizens to continue to be divided on the war on terror, Iraq as well as homeland security & international security.
The badguys are loving the increasing dissent and polarization of groups/viewpoints within our gov't and populace. All this negative activity is hampering our efforts in fighting the war and enabling AQ et.al. as well as giving aid & comfort to our country's enemies.
AQ would not want to run the risk of galvanizing the gov't and the citizenry to the absolute destruction"once and for all" of AQ. They would want to hit us in such a way that would very seriously demoralize the citizenry and cause a "Spanish capitualtion".
This is the very fine "razor's edge" they have to run when considering "an AQ leadership sanctioned/approved" operation within CONUS.Therfore I personally think an "AQ leadership santioned" attack is not much to worry over at this time. The time to worry over this would be after the 2008 national elections, regardless of who is elected.
Now having said that, there is a very real possibility of a group of foreign nationals and/or domestic nutjobs that are either affiliated/sympathetic or just plain wannabes that would independently carry out some type of nutjob attack(s) for the purpose of furthering what ever nutty cause(s) they have espoused. This is what we need to be watchful for at the present time. But then again this is just the opinion of a "strange little man"...........

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Although I'm not convinced it will be bombs if it happens. The idea of terror is fear, not body count.

Strangely, bombings have been a major part of AQs terroristic operations, so the fact that you are not convinced it will be bombs is fine, but would be contrary to their MO.

As for the need to create fear and no body counts. That has already been accomplished. Every time one of these warnings is put forth, part of the goal is accomplished and all that had to be done is post a notice on a web site suggesting, hinting of a terroristic act.

Thank you El Tejon for mentioning Indy. That is an excellent example of a pro-gun area that was supposedly targeted by terrorists.

Actually, the idea of terrorism is to bring about social, political, or religious (and some would say, philosophical) change via attacks on non-military targets so as to bring about change from within of the opposition which is often accomplished through terroristic acts. Bombs are a frequent tool for terroristic acts because they are non-discriminitory and hence cause the greatest amount of concern or fear even if they are small and don't produce large body counts.

 

[cslinger]

Breaking news - AQ plans to attack United States and United States Interests.

In other breaking news, Arabs and Jews Found to dislike each other. Water found to be wet.

Its gonna happen. But take into consideration that lots of people get killed in and around malls everyday, its just that crime is not scary to us, but TERRRRROOORRRR is.

 

[willbrink]

"You think Al Qaeda will honor the "Gun Free Zones"?"

Yes, but they will not honor the explosive free zone.

 

[strangelittleman]

HAHAHAHA! Yep, cslinger, you're too right! That's the media for you! Thanks I needed a good laugh!!!!!

 

[ilbob]

Actually it would, Chorline is added to kill pathogens in the tap water, so you have to introduce literally tons of chemical or biological nastiness into the water supply for it to have any effect. Keep in mind that some/most potable tap water is recycled/treated sewer water.

the primary reason chlorine is added to water supplies is to prevent algae growth in the pipes. it is not all that effective against many pathogens.

 

[strangelittleman]

Hmmmm....It does sound rather Hegelian, doesn't it?

 

[Titan6]

Hmmmm....It does sound rather Hegelian, doesn't it?

Do we dare question the ultimate authority?

 

[bl4ckd0g]

The last Muslim attack on a shopping mall was the shooting in Salt Lake City. Albeit, it wasn't Al Queda sponsored, and was sparked more by mental istability rather than political hatred. Nonetheless, SLC is hardly a "gun free" city.

Sounds like minor speculation from the government and the Fox News spin machine going into overtime. I personally wouldn't put too much stock into this. However, it's a great excuse to keep your SO's from spending to much time shopping in the mall.

 

[crebralfix]

Yeah...right. Your odds of being hurt or killed by Al Queda are next to 0.

Just remember, there will be muggers, gang members, druggies, and maybe a serial killer at the mall. Then, there are the risks associated with getting in a car and driving to that mall.

Maybe a coconut will fall off a tree and hit you in the head.

This is just another BS government warning in an attempt to keep "the threat of terrorism" in the minds of folks...good justification for the continued abuse of our rights.

 

[romma]

Don't worry! We have Mall Ninjas to protect us...

The Elite Tactical Division of Mall Ninjas has already been Thwarting, Counterstriking, and solving a number of crimes associated with terror on many levels in US shopping malls.

Rumor has it that approximately 1/2 of the workers employed by Hot Topic and Pac Sun are undercover "Plants" to keep a leg up...

 

[Harley Quinn]

A group like this should be allowed to flourish many feel I have read, don't want to hurt their rights to evolve into a full blown part of America
Land of milk and honey or

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=315202

Yep this is a good one to look at, to bad all can not respond to some of the choice words mentioned by others here.

 

[ExSoldier]

I don't doubt there will be some form of attack on soft targets during the Holiday season. But then, I've been expecting THAT since Sept 11th 2001.

AQ plans for multiple attacks: minimum of four so that they can be pretty sure at least one will have catastrophic impact on the target as proved to be the case in nearly every bonafide attack by AQ both before and after 911.

The most effective would obviously be some sort of WMD attack. That would also afford them the least risk of failure due to human intervention.

Still, read a book by Tom Clancy called the "Teeth of the Tiger" which presents a very credible attack scenario in a mall environment. I don't think AQ has the guts to strike anywhere in the South. Not using firearms. At least not using firearms in a situation where armed citizens could respond. Sniper attacks, maybe. Even then it's problematic. If there are a number of recent vets from the sandbox, they'll know how to respond to a sniper. How to identify his AO and how to flank and terminate the problem. I'll bet they think we're ALL soft hearted liberals.

 

[Mr. Designer]

I can buy the gun-free logic. They are also targeting our schools, which just happen to be gun-free.

 

[RoadkingLarry]

Either way, what ever the terrorists use in the next big hit, the result will be a call to disarm innocent law abiding citizens.

 

[romma]

Either way, what ever the terrorists use in the next big hit, the result will be a call to disarm innocent law abiding citizens.

Not so sure of that. The result depending on the type of attack and number of victims may go the other way... IMHO

 

[RoadkingLarry]

I didn't mean to say it would be a successful call to disarm. remember, after 9/11 we had moonbats wanting to shut down hunting seasons because people would be out in the woods with camoflage clothing on and the terrorists might mix in with them and hit us again.
Anytime an act of violence occurs the moonbat left will find a rason to try to ban guns again.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

You guys honestly think Los Angeles is a gun free city?

Not exactly gun-free. Just not gun-friendly.

Wait a minute.......you're not implying........illegal guns?

 

[kurtmax]

If they had the discipline to do it, commerce could be crippled for months by a handful of "snipers," rather than in a suicide bombing or spray-fire attack.

This has always scared me, yet made me wonder why such a thing hasn't happened. Someone who had the will and discipline could easily never get caught "sniping" people. (I use that term loosely, as most of the "sniper" attacks where sharpshooting not sniping)