Alarm System or Shotgun for Home Security?

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To be honest man, if she's already dismissed the weapon as "point and click" it would never come to her mind to go for it in an emergency. You'd be better to look into possibly istalling a panic button type alarm system and install said panic buttons in strategic places. An unlocked and unsecured shotgun that the user is unfamiliar with or unwilling to use is far too apt to be stolen or lord forbid be used against the owner. I go with some of the others on getting a large protective breed dog...they are pretty darn detering to most meth or crack rabbits looking to make a quick snatch of a DVD or PC. I don't know if your 911/police system has a similiar program, but in WV you can dial *77 and it will ring into the State Police, having this on a speed key or voice activation on a good cell phone could be as, if not more so, effective as an alarm...and she's more apt to keep the cell phone on her.
 
Alarm might scare off the BG, but it's real value is in warning you that the BG is there so you can take action. If you are unarmed there is little action you can take other than dialing 911 and hoping they arrive in time. Also, you have no ability to confirm a suspected false alarm other than walking around the house unarmed. NOTE: Keep a cell phone near the bed, the BG might cut the power and phone lines... I would at least consider it were I a BG. An old phone that's no longer active will still dial 911, so you can put it by the bed and not worry about leaving your active phone in your pants or whatever.

If you have other firearms available, I'd get some kind of alarm. All the guns in the world are useless if you wake up with the BG standing over your bed. Doesn't have to be expensive, those magnetic kind that alert to a door or window being opened can be placed on rarely used entrances and windows and simply left on. Change the batteries when you cance your smoke detector batteries. Put them on your bedroom windowns and the bedroom door, leave the window ones on and turn on the door one when you go to bed... only one thing to remember and it's better being there than nowhere.

Since you already have pets, have you consided a dog? It doesn't need to be a huge maneater... tho I admit mine is :) ... many small dog breeds are very smart, loyal and courageous. They can be trained, if handled properly, only to bark at intruders actually entering or approaching the house instead of all passers-by... and once trained you don't have to remember to turn them on. Even a small dog can be a distraction for the BG during a break in or home invasion.

Now to the real meat of the issue: It is NOT difficult to argue with her logic as it is flawed. If she is unwilling to make the effort to even turn on an alarm, you have a problem no matter what you decide to buy. Self defense and protection requires effort of some kind on the part of the protected. Situational awareness requires effort. Turning on the alarm and testing it periodically requires effort. You do not merely point a shotgun. It is a tool that requires proficiency if not a mastery, and mastery is nice in a firefight. Firearms proficiency requires effort.

The reason for using shotguns for HD is that you can tailor the load to your situation NOT because it does not require aiming or skill. #4 shot is best overall for HD as it peneterates enough to kill the BG without having a miss go thru the 3 houses next door. It usually penetrates the equivelent of 2 walls; ie: the wall of the room it's fired in, and the wall of the next, usually entering the third room with greatly reduced energy and greatly reduced injury potential. Birdshot does not penertrate enough to reliably disable an attacker, 00 buckshot penetrates as much as many handgun rounds. Rifles are right out, many will go thru 3-4 houses worth of walls before stopping. Slugs will go thru fewer walls than a rifle round, but are still out for most HD scenarios. Keep a few in a side saddle for special situations, such as hostage or the rare long-range shot. These are values based on 12g shells. 20g is probably similar.

One option might be .410 bore. Mossberg makes at least one of their Persuader models in .410 bore:

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The recoil would be easier to handle for a novice and penetration might be less while still being sufficient to disable the target. Winchester makes a .410 load with 3 000 pellets, and I'm sure there are others suitable for HD.

However, none of this matters if she isn't willing to turn on the alarm, practice with the shotgun, and actually give some thought to her own protection. Deciding what to do on the fly is a lot harder than having thought about it ahead of time... and having given it some thing it will probably be less of a shock when something happens.
 
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Get the shotgun

You can't bust clays with an alarm... Well maybe you can, but it's goning to be a lot of work.:p
 
BOTH

I have both and as far a animals setting off alarm, I have a Monitronics alarm it has 2 settings on the remote. If u set to stay the motion detector does not get activated but all doors and windows do, so you can stay at home and get a glass of water or you can chose the away and this activates the motion detector i hardly set this one since the dog or myself might activate if i go downstairs to get a snack. I've had the alarm for over 2 years and the first week my wife accidentally activated it and i was called in the loudspeaker within seconds. They installed all the equipment for free as long as i took a 1 year contract I'm pretty happy with their service their no is 1800-447-9239. I sleep in a second floor so if someone decides to come in with no invitation the alarm will give me time to reach my gun for a welcome aboard since its loud as hell:)
 
Like many others said "BOTH"

Electronic Security has been my career field for nearly 24 years, although I have been out of residential security for a decade or better... currently design systems for high threat/ value environments.

Obviously I believe alarm systems to be an asset, it is important for a residential system to be easy to live with, and allot of technology is available nowadays to design systems that are effective yet unrestrictive to your lifestyle.

The tough part is getting a sales rep that really knows security. My suggestion (if you go that route) is to call several out and ask them lots of questions, may help to weed out the salesman from the security expert.

My personal preference for a single family home system is a solid perimeter...

On all windows… security screens (I like to open my windows for fresh air and still have security)

All exterior doors have recessed contacts, except garage overhead door which has a floor mounted contact.

I prefer glass break detectors for large fixed glass windows.

Motion detectors only used if no better perimeter option is available.

Keypads where most convenient... front door, garage to house door, and most important... on the nightstand next to my bed, same place as my firearm (allows me to see what part of the house an alarm took place, and turn system on/ off without getting out of bed).

I also think highly of wireless communication, where available. Most bad guys know to cut phone lines. If out in the country, maybe a wireless jump to a neighbor’s phone line is an option, cellular communication or have the phone company set your demarcation box in the garage/ basement and bury the feed line from the pole.

Finally, if going through that expense, may as well add smoke detectors... for monitored fire detection.

I don’t have much experience with the residential wireless systems, only comments would be to watch battery life, and can you live with looking at the larger exposed sensors? Likely less expensive.
 
My FIL is in the security business and believes motion detectors are much better than door and window switches. More cost effective and less maintenance. That has been my experience with two homes. The only component I ever had go bad was a door switch. My Dad has a bad door switch now.

We don't have pets, so that is not an issue with our motion sensors.

One issue with a window switch is, if you bust out the window without raising the frame, the switch will not alarm.

A shotgun won't wake you up to tell you someone has broken in and is sneaking around your house.
 
OK as an alarm company owner and installer I have to weigh in on something.

First, if you build a house, have the alarm company "wire" your windows then the window manufacture WILL void your warranty.

Second, The new style motion detectors now are available that are "pet immune". most up to 30 or 40 lbs. there are some that are immune up to 100 lbs (now a 100 lb person can NOT get past them).

Best line of defense, contact all doors, place a motion or 2 in the home in the "high traffic" areas, install glass break detectors (they are great until "mom" forgets to disarm the system on Sunday morn and Jr. drops the OJ canister on the floor)

You can do windows but you HAVE to go wireless and use "stick on" contacts to protect your warranty.

today's wireless stuff is very good, most of the professional styled equipment uses 3v batteries that last 3 to 5 years normally.

I sell a "self contained" alarm system that comes with 1 motion and 2 door contacts, and the "base" unit. works real well for an apartment and can have up to 32 different wireless devices including smoke detectors. They even can use the "remotes" to arm/disarm. The nice thing about this unit is it's wireless, when you move you unplug it, take the motion down (patch 2 little screw holes) take the door contacts down (patching 4 holes) and you are ready to move into your next abode with a complete alarm system and you get your deposit on the apartment back.
 
...my wife is completely against the idea of getting an alarm system...

When I told my wife that she will need to practice with the shotgun she simply said "oh please...it is a shotgun...you point and shoot"...she has never even shot a shotgun before...

I am not worried about our posessions being stolen as they can be replaced, Im worried about a break in while my wife is home and I am not, as I travel frequently.

Apparently your wife wouldn't bother to use the alarm system if you did get one, and isn't willing to train with a shotgun if you buy one.

For her protection?
Get neither.

She has a .357 of her own, if she bothers to care about taking precautions while you're out of town, she can (not that according to your accounts she's likely to).

After thinking about it for a while...like you guys said if she isnt willing to take the time to set an alarm or train with the shotgun, she may be hopeless BUT...at least I get a free pass to get a shotgun with no compliants about spending money lol. Any maybe, she will learn to like the shotgun and practice with it when she goes to the range because she made the choice to get one...and if not...like I said..I still get a nice shiny new shotgun

Yes, if you get the shotgun, get it for your own enjoyment. :)
 
Nothing against wireless systems… but, while it maybe true ‘some’ window manufacturers may void your warranty, not all do, and even if your window warranty was void, personally, I don’t know anyone that ever had to replace a window which wasn’t damaged by a contractor or in some other way that wasn’t covered under warranty anyway. Still this is a very good point and should be considered carefully.

Also, motion detectors are fine (these are my opinions only) but, they only work when the BG is already in the house, I personally am not comfortable with that scenario. A number of installers/ companies I know push the motion detectors hard in replacement of sounder perimeter security. I guess the reasons vary, in hardwire installations they are a faster easier install which goes to cost, allowing them to be more competitive. It seems that mind set carried over to the newer wireless systems as well. I personally have noticed a decline of skilled hardwire installers these days where retrofits in existing homes and businesses are concerned, it is important that Johnny alarm installer doesn’t drill your windows all up in the wrong places, or run a 6’ bit through the shingle roof. … Worse yet, run it up through the second floor and take fluffy the poodle for a merry-go-round ride! :eek: It’s necessary for a company to have skilled installers when putting in hard wire.

I have found motions to be very hard to live with, requiring me to always pay attention to how I arm my system, motions bypassed when home, or continually turning my security on and off, even to take a leek in the middle of the night. And, if windows were left unprotected, leaves you with only partial security.

I would also like to comment on the glass break detector that goes into alarm when JR. drops the OJ can, baloney… not if the right detector is installed and tuned properly. Now maybe it would go off if JR dropped a glass on the tile floor, but then it has really only done its job.

Finally, much of this only applies to a home you own, not apartment security. The opinions are mine and here only as points for consideration to others if in the market for security.
 
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