Alito defended government wiretap rights

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He argued that government officials should have blanket protection from lawsuits (a case they lost). I agree with soon to be justice Alito, there is no reason to sue royalty - it should not be allowed. Imagine if our royals were brought down to the level of the common man and could be hauled into court - it could bring the country to it's knees.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10586849/

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito defended the right of government officials to order domestic wiretaps when he worked for the Reagan Justice Department, documents released Friday show.

He advocated a step by step approach to strengthening the hand of officials in a 1984 memo to the solicitor general. The strategy is similar to the one that Alito espoused for rolling back abortion rights at the margins.

The release of the memo by the National Archives comes when President Bush is under fire for secretly ordering domestic spying of suspected terrorists without a warrant. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., has promised to question Alito about the administration's program.

Blanket protection

The memo dealt with whether government officials should have blanket protection from lawsuits when authorizing wiretaps. "I do not question that the attorney general should have this immunity," Alito wrote. "But for tactical reasons, I would not raise the issue here."

Despite Alito's warning that the government would lose, the Reagan administration took the fight to the Supreme Court in the case of whether Nixon's attorney general, John Mitchell, could be sued for authorizing a warrantless domestic wiretap to gather information about a suspected terrorist plot. The FBI had received information about a conspiracy to destroy utility tunnels in Washington and kidnap Henry Kissinger, then national security adviser.

That case ultimately led to a 1985 ruling by the Supreme Court that the attorney general and other high level executive officials could be sued for violating people's rights, in the name of national security, with such actions as domestic wiretaps.

"The danger that high federal officials will disregard constitutional rights in their zeal to protect the national security is sufficiently real to counsel against affording such officials an absolute immunity," the court found.

However, the court said Mitchell was protected from suit, because when he authorized the wiretap he did not realize his actions violated the Fourth Amendment.
 
Remember: a lawyer is a lawyer. It's a lawyer's job to represent his/her client fully.

An attorney representing an accused rapist will defend the client and present only arguments which favor the client's case, no matter what the attorney's personal feelings might be about rape or even about the client. He/she will trust that the prosecuting attorney will do exactly the same thing on the other side of the argument, and that the judge and/or jury will weigh the arguments.

No matter what you think of the late Johnny Cochran, it would be ridiculous to suggest that he supports the murder of innocent people just because he defended OJ Simpson and he did so effectively.

As a judge, Alito would have different responsibilities, and, if he is an upstanding jurist, he would carry them out as best he can. That might well mean that he would rule emphatically against the very side for which he might argue, if he were working as a lawyer instead of a judge.

I'm not arguing, here, that he'd make the perfect judge. I AM, however, pointing out that the cases he worked on as a lawyer, when that was his job, don't tell us much about his opinions as a judge.

If I work as a PR guy for Budweiser, I'm going to work hard to get Budweiser signs at sporting events, convince bars to sell the stuff at happy hour, etc., because that's my job. As a matter of fact, I'd rather drink anything short of horse piss than Buttweiper, but I'd do the job I was paid to do.

Same thing if you're a lawyer.
 
I truly believe that Judge Alito will interpret the Constitution as it was meant to be, and not try to make law.
I will be very glad to see him confirmed.
Jerry
 
ArmedBear said:
Remember: a lawyer is a lawyer. It's a lawyer's job to represent his/her client fully.

+1

Unless a lawyer is acting pro bono for some reason, you can't really infer their views when they're representing a client.

When they're acting as a prosecuter, well, I expect charges to be dropped when the case is found to be without merit. Continuation is just a waste of funds.
 
ArmedBear said:
No matter what you think of the late Johnny Cochran, it would be ridiculous to suggest that he supports the murder of innocent people just because he defended OJ Simpson and he did so effectively.

And I would argue that if there were no lawyers willing to defend the knowingly guilty, then more of the guilty would find themsevles appropriately sequestered...

Any way you look at it, such lawyers are at the same ethical level as DA's whose only concern is getting convictions regardless of actual guilt.

Our Justice System is about anything but justice. It is about winning, money, and power.
 
CAnnoneer said:
And I would argue that if there were no lawyers willing to defend the knowingly guilty, then more of the guilty would find themsevles appropriately sequestered...

Any way you look at it, such lawyers are at the same ethical level as DA's whose only concern is getting convictions regardless of actual guilt.

Our Justice System is about anything but justice. It is about winning, money, and power.

It's easy to throw stones at our adversarial system of justice. Got any better ideas?
 
And I would argue that if there were no lawyers willing to defend the knowingly guilty, then more of the guilty would find themsevles appropriately sequestered...
And how do we know the guy is guilty? Isn't that what the court is there to determine?

Put it another way: Randy Weaver was a white-supremacist slug, and he broke the law pretty cleanly. Did he deserve to be represented by no less than Gerry Spence?

A lawyer's job is to make sure the law is followed. That includes the law regarding the rights of the accused. I firmly believe--as the Founding Fathers espoused--that it is better that one guilty man go free than ten innocents be jailed. A defense attorney's job is not to get his client off, it's to force the prosecutor to stay within the bounds of the law; put another way, a good defense attorney is the antidote to a DA "whose only concern is getting convictions regardless of actual guilt."
 
Flyboy said:
Put it another way: Randy Weaver was a white-supremacist slug, and he broke the law pretty cleanly.

Really? Interesting observation. And this statement comes from extensive personal knowledge of the man?

:scrutiny:
 
I'm willing to give Gerry Spence the benefit of the doubt on this one. If he says that about his client, I'll let it stand until somebody shows otherwise.
 
"He advocated a step by step approach to strengthening the hand of officials in a 1984 memo to the solicitor general."

Lol a '1984 memo'. Too true, way too true.
 
Alito defended government wiretap rights

Lets not forget;
Goverments don't have rights. People have rights, we are born with them.

I would call it power and control. That is what goverments exercise over the governed rightly or wrongly.
 
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