All Popular Calibers Have Been Outlawed. What Oddball/Obsolete Caliber Do You Carry

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For a concealment piece ?
.32 Automatic or .32 H&R Magnum in either a Beretta Cheetah or S&W J frame.

For a belt piece ? S&W Mdl 21 in .44 Spl

My "gun when I can't hide a gun" would be a Baby Browning in .25 Auto

Though I'd prefer a Mdl 642/10.
 
What we all here fail to realize is that, given such a scenario; we're not gonna be picking and choosing the calibers we keep. Our "Great Benevolent Overlords" would deign to allow us puny peasants to perhaps own an automatic of the steel single stack variety, with European mag release in a .32 or .25 caliber, or a short barreled revolver in .32 or .25 caliber.


Although I would love a S&W Mdl 36 in .25 Auto; I'd prefer not to be forced into that being my only gun.
 
^Maybe I’m being optimistic but if the .380 acp makes the cut I’d be satisfied.

.45C is a legal hunting caliber in Ohio so that’s my “Big” gun, I’ve heard some noise about the 2nd and hunting purposes so….
 
Mr. Mosin said:
That's the thing though... we *need* to do politics...
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Maybe we can convince the Admin and Mods to make a “Freedom” sub forum? Where we discuss ways to preserve our freedoms and not everything has to about politics, even though it would be a large part.

The easy answer though is for everyone to go to No Tech Tyranny so I wouldn’t count on any changes here.
 
Hartkopf said:
Maybe we can convince the Admin and Mods to make a “Freedom” sub forum? Where we discuss ways to preserve our freedoms and not everything has to about politics, even though it would be a large part.

The easy answer though is for everyone to go to No Tech Tyranny so I wouldn’t count on any changes here.
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Us cutting out politics is why we're in the situation we're in.
 
Mr. Mosin said:
That's the thing though... we *need* to do politics...
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We do politics. It's in the "Activism" department. It's just not political discussion in general terms.

Problem with allowing political discussion in general is it's too easy to assume all gun owners/enthusiasts are like minded on everything else. We ain't. Wanna see a great forum devolve into a mess of name calling and finger pointing? I don't. Go check out some of the ones that have, and you'll appreciate that politics are taboo here.
 
Let's not get yet another thread closed because people brought politics (taboo) into it. We know the deal, and in case anyone was wondering, we saw going into the election how websites can be messed with. I think there's still a thread on deplatforming posted.

Now- my second foray into oddball/obsolete calibers... if I can find access to a solid gunsmith, I'm looking hard at .30 Luger. The reason is obvious enough, I have (several) pistols in 9mm Luger, and it's my decidedly non-expert understanding that changing to .7.65 Parabellum (30 Luger) is just a barrel swap. The loaded ammo is the same diameter, and as I understand also the same overall length, so you could use the same magazines etc.

So on the premise that we can keep our firearms, but no access to these calibers (ignore reloading, as I assume it would be a crime to possess the ammo). I'm finding someone (I may know a local guy capable, I'm sure there are plenty nationally) who can create the new barrels, to keep my kids functional. My understanding is that there's at least a High Power barrel available now; but I want to convert and rescue as many as possible. CZ, Beretta, Sig, S&W etc. I do understand this would be pricey, but probably with the demand jumping, the actual access to such barrels might increase and the prices may drop.
My thought is, with the local guy that might be able to, if I provide him the hands-on access to my 9x19 barrel, he could maybe take a barrel blank and match it up.
We then need said ammo... but if that caliber remains legal, I'm certain it would jump in demand, for the very reason I would look at it.

With that addressing the Parabellums, I now need to consider the .45 acp question (my 1911's). Would conversion to 38 Super be all that expensive? If that's feasible, I would do that.
 
Hartkopf said:
This is all just hypothetical because I dreamed it up and I'd like to read opinions on different calibers. If you think this is dumb, please don't clutter the thread.

Ok since the world has been upside down since 2020, what weird, obsolete, oddball, goofy caliber do you chose to carry if all the mainstream popular calibers were outlawed?

No 9mm, 40S&W, 10mm, 45ACP, 380, 38Special, 357Mag, 44Mag.

Tell us your favorite oddball semiauto and revolver caliber and what's good about it. Some of us are not familiar with obsolete calibers so please include how powerful it is or what it closely compares to.


1)For semiautos I would pick the 45 GAP. It is almost identical to 45ACP and I like Glocks. Easy to reload with 45ACP dies and bullets. It's so useless it's a great caliber for a goofy world.:thumbup:

2)For revolvers I would pick 44 Special. It's big and slow but has the ability to use sharp edge wad cutters or Gold Dots loaded by Underwood that reliably expand. Also easy to reload.
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41 mag for revolvers because I enjoy it


38 Super for 1911 because I think it is a great round and in your scenario I think it’s perfect
 
Ok, serious question regarding this all:

OP's scenario has outlawed "popular calibers", but seems to allow the public to still buy "oddball"... Given that we would still be able to buy "SOMETHING", I would then assume that the manufacturers would quickly fill the void. Meaning "oddball" will become the new popular.

So- considering the millions of 9x19 pistols, what IS the best actual conversion from 9? That, plus a cottage industry making barrels to replace, will be the ticket. Is it 7.65 Parabellum? - you can't fit 7.62 Tok or 9mm Largo (38 Super etc) inside a dedicated 9x19 magwell.
Could 9x18 Ultra generate the force to cycle the slide reliably, etc?

I'd guess the anemic 38 S&W could still be shot through the various .357 and .38 Special revolvers, although I'm not a wheelgun guy.
 
lsudave said:
Ok, serious question regarding this all:

OP's scenario has outlawed "popular calibers", but seems to allow the public to still buy "oddball"... Given that we would still be able to buy "SOMETHING", I would then assume that the manufacturers would quickly fill the void. Meaning "oddball" will become the new popular.

So- considering the millions of 9x19 pistols, what IS the best actual conversion from 9? That, plus a cottage industry making barrels to replace, will be the ticket. Is it 7.65 Parabellum? - you can't fit 7.62 Tok or 9mm Largo (38 Super etc) inside a dedicated 9x19 magwell.
Could 9x18 Ultra generate the force to cycle the slide reliably, etc?

I'd guess the anemic 38 S&W could still be shot through the various .357 and .38 Special revolvers, although I'm not a wheelgun guy.
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Refer to my earlier post. Our “Benevolent Overlords” would probably only permit state manufactured ammunition in mouse gun calibers.
 
Mr. Mosin said:
Refer to my earlier post. Our “Benevolent Overlords” would probably only permit state manufactured ammunition in mouse gun calibers.
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Friends Don't Let Friends Carry Mouse Guns
I guess if it was all I had then a mouse gun caliber would have to do. In many countries specific calibers are banned, Mexico comes to mind which, according to rumor control, is why the 38 Super is so popular.

Ron
 
Mr. Mosin said:
A 1911 Gov’t sized .32 Auto
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A Full size 1911 in 32 Super would hold 18+1.:D

Or maybe my new cartridge could be the 32SHHhh.
A longer case for just shy of super sonic with a 88 grain XTP I’ll have Hornady make. In a suppressed 1911 there would be minimal recoil while having enough speed to open a filled hollow point.

Nah. 32 Super just fits with the 1911 and all the other supers!:)
 
Pretty sure this thought exercise is based on the laws of some countries that disallow “military” calibers. Also, it’s great because there are unusual calibers out there that are a bit beyond the pale of 380/9/40/45, that are very good for certain things and have dedicated fanbases….. calibers like 38 super, 357 Sig, 32naa, 9mm major, 9x23 Win, 32-20, 41 mag, etc etc. Sometimes it’s nice to hear about those.
 
Mosin77 said:
Pretty sure this thought exercise is based on the laws of some countries that disallow “military” calibers. Also, it’s great because there are unusual calibers out there that are a bit beyond the pale of 380/9/40/45, that are very good for certain things and have dedicated fanbases….. calibers like 38 super, 357 Sig, 32naa, 9mm major, 9x23 Win, 32-20, 41 mag, etc etc. Sometimes it’s nice to hear about those.
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That's exactly why I started this thread, not for us to prepare for more BS laws. I cringe at the thought and am totally against any new gun laws. We need less gun laws and more freedom.
 
I have no crystal ball and rarely think in dystopian ways but for over 10 years I’ve been buying ammo in bulk when the price is good. I shoot a good bit too.The one round that I went a bit overboard on is the 9x18 Makarov. It seems that any US President can stop the importation of ammo and firearms from another country. China can no longer import arms and China can no longer import ammunition. My realistic concern was that Russia could be banned from importing ammo. By far the most ammo I have is for the 9x18 handguns, over 6,000 rounds of all brands and types to feed nearly 20 handguns.
 
lincen said:
China can no longer import arms and China can no longer import ammunition. My realistic concern was that Russia could be banned from importing ammo.
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China can no longer export guns and ammunition into the United States. The United States can no longer import guns or ammunition from China. It's an import / export thing. :)

Ron
 
357 Sig. A decent approximation of a 357 125 grain round. If not the Sig, I would go 38 Super or 9X23 Winchester. Again, good power, and with the right pistol, plenty of firepower (i.e. Eaa Witness in 38 Super has a capacity of 18 rounds - and likely can modified to shoot either 9X23 Win or 38 Super. Power, capacity - great options.
 
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