Allow trained and approved teachers and school administrators the right to CCW

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Signed and sent to everyone I know.

Guns obviously aren't the issue.
Helping the mentally ill is outstanding, but that isn't going to eliminate this problem either.

Eliminate gun free zones. Get on board, folks. Nobody shoots up a police station.
 
I signed the petition as #8, but generally feel that it is a very naive and very incomplete solution. While it would allow for teachers and administrators (but apparently not school security teams?) to carry, what it fails miserably to do is to see to it that schools have protection. If none of the administrators or teachers decide to carry, the school is no better off by this legislation.

The schools will still largely remain 'gun free zones,' something the petition poorly trying to fight against.

Get on board, folks. Nobody shoots up a police station.
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Common but ignorant claim.

http://www.freep.com/article/201211...ice-Department-shot-today-Providence-Hospital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEeUBQbVdCw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsHcQdX9_dc This video is from Detroit. It is a very graphic and disturbing video.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/08/17/texas-gunman-launches-assault-on-police-station/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18766089/

See post #73 for more police station shootings here.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=365954&page=3&highlight=police+station
 
Ok, people have shot up police stations. Point taken.

I agree though, this is an incomplete solution. The complete solution consists of the absolute abolishment of Gun Free Zones, in their entirety.

An impulse to kill is not created by the presence of any weapon. The ability to properly and completely defend oneself is only created by the presence of a weapon.

Ths only thing naive about those two critical points is ignoring either of them.
 
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Nope.

1. Teachers and School Administrators are not a police force. Hire a police force if you want that level of protection.

2. Extend CCW rights to schools so Teachers can carry. Of course, it is not a right if it has to be extended or granted.

I am not big on this "You must be properly trained and approved to carry" idea. I am not even big on the idea of needing a permit to carry.
Note: I am for following the law. I would rather argue for changing the laws to be less stringent than more stringent.

I would rather it be, "Allow people the necessary tools for their own safety".
 
I believe that people should have the right to carry for personal protection and not the protection of others.

If schools feel that students need protecting then schools need to hire security officers and implement better lockdown procedures while classes are in session.

It's not the job of someone who has a CCW to play cop or security. I don't carry a gun because I intend to protect others around me, I carry to protect myself from someone who wants to kill me.

School shootings happen so rarely and are such isolated events that it's impossible to predict where and when one could occur. Schools need to do a better job of identifying troubled youths and parents need to do a better job of recognizing and responding to potentially dangerous behavior in their kids.

I have no problem with teachers carrying for personal protection but the first time a teacher has an negligent discharge in the classroom or a student gets his hands on the teachers gun the ramifications are going to be severe and that will be the end of allowing teachers to be armed.
 
An impulse to kill is not created by the presence of any weapon. The ability to properly and completely defend oneself is only created by the presence of a weapon.
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Nobody here has suggested that the impulse to kill is created by the presence of a weapon.

Properly and completely? A gun isn't complete defense. No weapon is complete defense. While guns may have the ability to damage others, they are exceptionally poor at stopping incoming threats.

I have no problem with teachers carrying for personal protection but the first time a teacher has an negligent discharge in the classroom or a student gets his hands on the teachers gun the ramifications are going to be severe and that will be the end of allowing teachers to be armed.
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Yep.
 
Signed. How many NRA members out there??? This thing should have millions of signature on it.
 
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