If you carry a gun for personal defense that means you or some one near you getting shot is a real possibility. With that in mind, it makes sence to have some sort emergency kit for edc. I've ordered a rescue essentials ankle first aid kit, SWAT T tourniquet nar compressed gauze and I have some extra shears I think will fit as well gloves i have a cat 5 i could throw in if it fits. I know it's easy to go nuts on 1st aid supplies so I'm looking for the absolute minim save a life items to include that won't make it too bulky to edc. The best 1rst aid In the world is completely useless if its stuck in the trunk while your off in a mall somewhere. My level of 1st aide training is basic police training wich varied quit a bit over the years before I retired. ( fortunately I was never in a situation where I needed to do anything serious )
Ankle IFAK advice
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I have a aversion to anything around my ankles, even socks. Unless I'm wearing my boots riding my Harley I rarely wear anything higher than ankle socks.
I have one that stays in my truck.
It contains 2x what the US military gives to their troops.
Quality ifak materials aren't cheap.
I have one that stays in my truck.
It contains 2x what the US military gives to their troops.
Quality ifak materials aren't cheap.
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If I were still riding, I might consider an ankle kit, but it only helps if Im conscious enough to use it, or a buddy/ bystander knows its there.
Otherwise, ya, Im too likely to leave an ankle kit at home where its useless.
I have a pretty decent IFAK in my bug-out bag and its never far from hand, along with spares in every vehicle and CATs staged pretty much everywhere.
If gunshot wounds are on the menu, a decomp needle for collapsed lung might be a consideration if you have the training to use it. NAR makes several which are as close to idiot-proof as you can get.
Otherwise, ya, Im too likely to leave an ankle kit at home where its useless.
I have a pretty decent IFAK in my bug-out bag and its never far from hand, along with spares in every vehicle and CATs staged pretty much everywhere.
If gunshot wounds are on the menu, a decomp needle for collapsed lung might be a consideration if you have the training to use it. NAR makes several which are as close to idiot-proof as you can get.
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AlexanderA
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You have to weigh the burden of carrying this stuff every day versus the remote possibility of having to use it. (In fact, the same calculation applies even to the basic question of carrying a gun.)
Where does it end? Do you wear a helmet, gas mask, plate carrier, load bearing equipment in your daily activities? If your neighborhood is a war zone, it may be time to consider moving.
Where does it end? Do you wear a helmet, gas mask, plate carrier, load bearing equipment in your daily activities? If your neighborhood is a war zone, it may be time to consider moving.
armoredman
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North American Rescue offers a number of IFKs, including an ankle version. I actually carry a home made IFK all the time. The cell phone goes in the unzipped outer pocket, and I think in 4 years of wearing it, I've been asked about it maybe four times? Most of the time people just see the phone.
What gets my goat is all the people who talk about the super high speed/low drag IFK they have...on their plate carrier or battle belt. Are you wearing either of those when shopping at the mall? I'm not. Seems weird things happen in places like that - IIRC, there WAS a guy with a few TQs at a shooting in Texas some time ago who saved some lives.
What gets my goat is all the people who talk about the super high speed/low drag IFK they have...on their plate carrier or battle belt. Are you wearing either of those when shopping at the mall? I'm not. Seems weird things happen in places like that - IIRC, there WAS a guy with a few TQs at a shooting in Texas some time ago who saved some lives.
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Oooh, I like that! Wish I could get away with wearing one at work, but sadly, no.North American Rescue offers a number of IFKs, including an ankle version. I actually carry a home made IFK all the time. The cell phone goes in the unzipped outer pocket, and I think in 4 years of wearing it, I've been asked about it maybe four times? Most of the time people just see the phone.
What gets my goat is all the people who talk about the super high speed/low drag IFK they have...on their plate carrier or battle belt. Are you wearing either of those when shopping at the mall? I'm not. Seems weird things happen in places like that - IIRC, there WAS a guy with a few TQs at a shooting in Texas some time ago who saved some lives.
I might add a cross patch to it, just so someone knows there are FA supplies inside in case Im the one in need of aid.
My SIL keeps his fancy NARCAT 3 minutes away in his car and a cheap Amazon chinesium knockoff in his desk drawer at work for training. Guess which one actually got used on a co-worker who tangled with a table-saw?
The paramedics said if it had been applied 3 minutes later, the guy wouldn't have made it.
armoredman
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I have a Red Cross on it now.
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I have carried guns for decades and haven't had that problem yet but I do have first aid kits in many places.
I too would suggest quick clot but silver sulfadizine cream gets used more often.
Better to have and not need than need and not have.
armoredman
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So here is an ankle IFK.
https://www.narescue.com/references...ts/every-day-carry-edc-ankle-trauma-kits.html
Wound gauze, a C.A.T., twin HyFin chest seal and gloves for $144. Or you get the high speed one for almost $190 that replaces the gauze with Combat Guaze, a variation of Quik Clot. If you have credentials for either military or LE you CAN get a substantial discount.
This is the one that rides on my duty belt for work.
https://www.narescue.com/law-enforcement-tems-products/tactical-medical-kits/belt-trauma-kit.html
I bought the "complete" kit that came with a C.A.T. and separate holder. I then bought my own C.A.T. holder for the belt as I didn't like that one. In fact, I think I have at least two spare C.A.T. holders laying about if anyone needs one.
This one I had on my PC, now it's on my Bail Out Bag. I got the Basic Plus Combat Gauze.
www.narescue.com
https://www.narescue.com/references...ts/every-day-carry-edc-ankle-trauma-kits.html
Wound gauze, a C.A.T., twin HyFin chest seal and gloves for $144. Or you get the high speed one for almost $190 that replaces the gauze with Combat Guaze, a variation of Quik Clot. If you have credentials for either military or LE you CAN get a substantial discount.
This is the one that rides on my duty belt for work.
https://www.narescue.com/law-enforcement-tems-products/tactical-medical-kits/belt-trauma-kit.html
I bought the "complete" kit that came with a C.A.T. and separate holder. I then bought my own C.A.T. holder for the belt as I didn't like that one. In fact, I think I have at least two spare C.A.T. holders laying about if anyone needs one.
This one I had on my PC, now it's on my Bail Out Bag. I got the Basic Plus Combat Gauze.
Belt Trauma Kit (BTK)
The Basic Belt Trauma Kit (BTK) with Combat Gauze® LE is an all-in-one kit that provides the essential equipment to control traumatic bleeding all within reach of your duty/pistol/personal belt. Fitting on a belt up to 2 inches wide, the BTK can be worn rotated 90º to make room for other gear...
CapnMac
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The velcro front might be handy for one of these:North American Rescue offers a number of IFKs, including an ankle version. I actually carry a home made IFK all the time. The cell phone goes in the unzipped outer pocket, and I think in 4 years of wearing it, I've been asked about it maybe four times? Most of the time people just see the phone.
What gets my goat is all the people who talk about the super high speed/low drag IFK they have...on their plate carrier or battle belt. Are you wearing either of those when shopping at the mall? I'm not. Seems weird things happen in places like that - IIRC, there WAS a guy with a few TQs at a shooting in Texas some time ago who saved some lives.
Which could be useful info for others. YMMV.
armoredman
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It wears a red cross patch now, red on black.
I wanted to go cheap, this is what I ended coming up with, cat 5, swat t ( useful for many things ) quick clot, zpack gauze. Shears, gloves & Sharpie. I think that is about as bulky as I'm willing to go.
The final pic is a couple kits I've been using for years, just too bulky for edc. The holster slips on my ankle just as easily as throwing on my ccw. Seems like I'm always looking for that sweet spot between small enough that I'll actually carry it to have it if I need it & useful enough to make a difference if needed. If I'm carrying any kind of bag I'll try to add what ever I have extra to it, you'd be surprised how.much you can cram into a surplus molle grenade grenade pouch & with molle being pretty common on all kinds of bags these days it doesn't look out of place.
The final pic is a couple kits I've been using for years, just too bulky for edc. The holster slips on my ankle just as easily as throwing on my ccw. Seems like I'm always looking for that sweet spot between small enough that I'll actually carry it to have it if I need it & useful enough to make a difference if needed. If I'm carrying any kind of bag I'll try to add what ever I have extra to it, you'd be surprised how.much you can cram into a surplus molle grenade grenade pouch & with molle being pretty common on all kinds of bags these days it doesn't look out of place.
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That would have been great for duty, now that I'm retired that pricepoint and footprint is too large for meSo here is an ankle IFK.
https://www.narescue.com/references...ts/every-day-carry-edc-ankle-trauma-kits.html
Wound gauze, a C.A.T., twin HyFin chest seal and gloves for $144. Or you get the high speed one for almost $190 that replaces the gauze with Combat Guaze, a variation of Quik Clot. If you have credentials for either military or LE you CAN get a substantial discount.
This is the one that rides on my duty belt for work.
https://www.narescue.com/law-enforcement-tems-products/tactical-medical-kits/belt-trauma-kit.html
I bought the "complete" kit that came with a C.A.T. and separate holder. I then bought my own C.A.T. holder for the belt as I didn't like that one. In fact, I think I have at least two spare C.A.T. holders laying about if anyone needs one.
This one I had on my PC, now it's on my Bail Out Bag. I got the Basic Plus Combat Gauze.
Belt Trauma Kit (BTK)
The Basic Belt Trauma Kit (BTK) with Combat Gauze® LE is an all-in-one kit that provides the essential equipment to control traumatic bleeding all within reach of your duty/pistol/personal belt. Fitting on a belt up to 2 inches wide, the BTK can be worn rotated 90º to make room for other gear...
armoredman
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Not shilling for any company, but I think you can get the LE discount as a retired officer. Also, you can buy all the bits separate if you want or buy other bits separate - I got a 4' ETD from them just a few days ago, just to add to my kit.
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Bullets and knives cause bleeding, therefore focus your equipment to stop life-threatening bleeding.
- Tourniquet for limbs.
- Hemostatic gauze for packing wounds at junctions where limbs and torso meet.
- Chest seal.
Keep this stuff separated from other first aid stuff so you don't have to dig through other gear, wasting precious time, looking for it.
Take a "Stop the Bleed" class.
- Tourniquet for limbs.
- Hemostatic gauze for packing wounds at junctions where limbs and torso meet.
- Chest seal.
Keep this stuff separated from other first aid stuff so you don't have to dig through other gear, wasting precious time, looking for it.
Take a "Stop the Bleed" class.
I've gotten more use from a first aid kit than a gun.
I might look into one of these. Not for the ankle though. I live in Florida- if I have something black around my ankle everybody's going to assume it's an ankle monitor.
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