Ann Coulter on the Roberts nomination

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After pretending to consider various women and minorities for the Supreme Court these past few weeks, President Bush decided to disappoint all the groups he had just ginned up and nominate a white male.

So all we know about him for sure is that he can't dance and he probably doesn't know who Jay-Z is. Other than that, he is a blank slate. Tabula rasa. Big zippo. Nada. Oh, yeah ... We also know he's argued cases before the Supreme Court. Big deal; so has Larry Flynt's attorney.

But unfortunately, other than that that, we don't know much about John Roberts. Stealth nominees have never turned out to be a pleasant surprise for conservatives. Never. Not ever.

Since the announcement, court-watchers have been like the old Kremlinologists from Soviet days looking for clues as to what kind of justice Roberts will be.

Will he let us vote?

Does he live in a small, rough-hewn cabin in the woods of New Hampshire and avoid "womenfolk"?

Does he trust democracy? Or will he make all the important decisions for us and call them "constitutional rights"?

It means absolutely nothing that NARAL and Planned Parenthood attack him: They also attacked Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy and David Hackett Souter.

The only way a Supreme Court nominee could win the approval of NARAL and Planned Parenthood would be to actually perform an abortion during his confirmation hearing, live, on camera, and preferably a partial-birth one.

It means nothing that Roberts wrote briefs arguing for the repeal of Roe v. Wade when he worked for Republican administrations. He was arguing on behalf of his client, the United States of America. Roberts has specifically disassociated himself from those cases, dropping a footnote to a 1994 law review article that said:

"In the interest of full disclosure, the author would like to point out that as Deputy Solicitor General for a portion of the 1992-'93 term, he was involved in many of the cases discussed below. In the interest of even fuller disclosure, he would also like to point out that his views as a commentator on those cases do not necessarily reflect his views as an advocate for his former client, the United States."

This would have been the legal equivalent, after O.J.'s acquittal, of Johnnie Cochran saying: "Hey, I never said the guy was innocent. I was just doing my job."

And it makes no difference that conservatives in the White House are assuring us Roberts can be trusted. We got the exact same assurances from officials working for the last president Bush about David Hackett Souter.

I believe their exact words were, "Read our lips; Souter's a reliable conservative."

From the theater of the absurd category, the Republican National Committee's "talking points" on Roberts provide this little tidbit:

"In the 1995 case of Barry v. Little, Judge Roberts argued — free of charge — before the D.C. Court of Appeals on behalf of a class of the neediest welfare recipients, challenging a termination of benefits under the District's Public Assistance Act of 1982."

I'm glad to hear the man has a steady work record, but how did this make it to the top of his resume?

Bill Clinton goes around bragging that he passed welfare reform, which was, admittedly, the one public policy success of his entire administration (passed by the Republican Congress). But now apparently Republicans want to pretend we're the party of welfare queens! Soon the RNC will be boasting that Republicans want to raise your taxes and surrender in the war on terrorism, too.

Finally, let's ponder the fact that Roberts has gone through 50 years on this planet without ever saying anything controversial. That's just unnatural.

By contrast, I held out for three months, tops, before dropping my first rhetorical bombshell, which I think was about Goldwater.

It's especially unnatural for someone who is smart, and there's no question but that Roberts is smart.

If a smart and accomplished person goes this long without expressing an opinion, he'd better be pursuing the Miss America title.

Apparently, Roberts decided early on that he wanted to be on the Supreme Court and that the way to do that was not to express a personal opinion on anything to anybody ever. It's as if he is from some space alien sleeper cell. Maybe the space aliens are trying to help us, but I wish we knew that.

If the Senate were in Democrat hands, Roberts would be perfect. But why on earth would Bush waste a nomination on a person who is a complete blank slate when we have a majority in the Senate!

We also have a majority in the House, state legislatures, state governorships, and have won five of the last seven presidential elections — seven of the last 10!

We're the Harlem Globetrotters now — why do we have to play the Washington Generals every week?

Conservatism is sweeping the nation, we have a fully functioning alternative media, we're ticked off and ready to avenge Robert Bork ... and Bush nominates a Rorschach blot.

Even as they are losing voters, Democrats don't hesitate to nominate reliable left-wing lunatics like Ruth Bader Ginsburg to lifetime tenure on the high court. And the vast majority of Americans loathe her views.

As I've said before, if a majority of Americans agreed with liberals on abortion, gay marriage, pornography, criminals' rights and property rights — liberals wouldn't need the Supreme Court to give them everything they want through invented "constitutional" rights invisible to everyone but People for the American Way. It's always good to remind voters that Democrats are the party of abortion, sodomy and atheism, and nothing presents an opportunity to do so like a Supreme Court nomination.

The Democrats' own polls showed voters are no longer fooled by claims that the Democrats are trying to block "judges who would roll back civil rights." Borking is over.

And Bush responds by nominating a candidate who will allow Democrats to avoid fighting on their weakest ground — substance. He has given us a Supreme Court nomination that will placate no liberals and should please no conservatives.

Maybe Roberts will contravene the sordid history of "stealth nominees" and be the Scalia or Thomas that Bush promised us when he was asking for our votes. Or maybe he won't. The Supreme Court shouldn't be a game of Russian roulette.
 
I'm starting to have doubts about this Roberts character. First this article and then we find out he never was a member of the Federalist Society. :confused:
 
I don't like the choice of Roberts. The Democrats are too quiet, not screaming enough.

Wait, I just heard the Turbin Durbin is opposed to Roberts! That settles it! I'm a Roberts man, now!
 
It doesn't make any difference what we think of this nomination. He'll be confirmed and should sit on the court for a LONG time.
 
"After pretending to consider various women and minorities for the Supreme Court these past few weeks, President Bush decided to disappoint all the groups he had just ginned up and nominate a white male.

So all we know about him for sure is that he can't dance and he probably doesn't know who Jay-Z is."

I wonder what would happen is you changed that to " All we really know about her is she has pms and likes fried chicken and watermellon" if he had picked a black woman.

I hate racist biggots in ANY form and she is definately it. In fact, this whole speculation and all those calling for him to nominate a "minority" instead of the best candidate are just as racist as they claim President Bush is for nominating a white male!
 
I should have known that Bush would nominate another liberal & fellow torture crony like Gonzalez.
 
They don't call them 'spineless republicans' for nothing. Idiots are scared to death of the left-wing Democrats. The republicans could nominate and confirm bugs freaking bunny if they wanted to and there isn't a damn thing the Democrats can do about it. Instead we get the 'gang of 14' or whatever the hell it is so they can share power with the party that is out of power.

Its pathetic.
 
Surf over to Democratic Underground. There's wailing and gnashing of teeth enough over there to maybe make you feel better.

Me? The only consolation that I have over GWB's nomination for SCOTUS is that it's not John Kerry's nomination.

All I expect from Republican conservatives over Democratic liberals is for national catastrophe to take a while longer to get here and maybe not be as intense...and I might be told I'm loved before I'm told to bend over. That's all.

Conservatives=the head of the quarter; liberals=the tail of the quarter. It lands heads. It lands tails. Guess what? It doesn't matter how it lands; you're still stuck with a quarter.

Before all the Republicans rise in outraged defense of the party; tell me, where's the valiant Republican Party majority's plan to repeal any gun control laws? Or heck, be generous to them, where is the Republican majority's noble but failed attempt to repeal any gun control law?

We have a Republican majority, all right...an almost totally spineless Republican majority. The only one in Congress who has the courage of his convictions, Ron Paul, doesn't receive support from the party during his primaries. Those brave, principled souls in the RNC support his Republican opponents.

There's only one justification for supporting the Republican Party at the polls and that's the Democratic Party. But please, hold your nose while doing so and bathe thoroughly afterwards.
 
I hate to say it but Ann is wrong.

What she is desperately reaching for is what Democrats call a 'litmus test' on how the judge will decide issues and she's concerned because she cannot find one.
 
I should have known that Bush would nominate another liberal & fellow torture crony like Gonzalez.
And what do you base this particular piece of wisdom on?
 
I dont think that she is looking for a litmus test but rather any indication of his view of the rule of law. Is he a constitutionalist, activist..... I think that the whole Souter mess gets many conservatives a little scared that it could happen again with a 50 year old. He will be on the court for like 3 decades. It is hard to believe that in 50 years he hasnt really taken a stance on anything. That is odd.
 
I dont think that she is looking for a litmus test but rather any indication of his view of the rule of law. Is he a constitutionalist, activist..... I think that the whole Souter mess gets many conservatives a little scared that it could happen again with a 50 year old. He will be on the court for like 3 decades. It is hard to believe that in 50 years he hasnt really taken a stance on anything. That is odd.

Where the frick do you guys get this crap???

Read this thread.
 
Why is it crap?

I read your other posts. I agree with basically everything. I agree most lawyers even in DC are not out to make political statements and such. Most fly under the radar and are only advocating for their clients. His career is beyond fantastic and he is obviously brilliant. Lets face facts, the justices on the supreme court are basically politicians. They get to decide the ultimate rule of law and are only put on the court because they say that they support the presidents ideaology. This guy has little history in decisions. As a lawyer you very well know that judges get a reputation one way or another very quickly as to their stances and views. This guy just doesnt have that history because of his short tenure as a DC COA judge. People are just looking for the reasons behind the appointment. One of the huge benefits of being elected president is possibly getting to appoint someone to SCOTUS. That impact is felt long after you are gone, good or bad. Souter was a huge mistake for Reagan. People like the "media whore" Coulter are just trying to determine if it will happen again.
 
What she is desperately reaching for is what Democrats call a 'litmus test' on how the judge will decide issues and she's concerned because she cannot find one.
There is no moral equivalency between those on the left who want someone on SCOTUS to legislate from the bench and conservatives who want someone on the SCOTUS who knows the proper role of a Supreme Court Justice in a free society, i.e., to uphold the law without regard for his or her preferred outcomes.
 
Since I can't recall any requirement for those robed miscreants to be lawyers, why not cut to the chase and nominate Ann Coulter. I could get behind that.
 
Hmmm, Coulter's opinion is about as weighty as Franken's to me. Nothing but a shrill hack, but it does go to point that no one on the fringes is happy about Roberts. That alone makes me like him more.
 
Since I can't recall any requirement for those robed miscreants to be lawyers, why not cut to the chase and nominate Ann Coulter. I could get behind that.

Err, might wanna rethink that one.

A- She's a fascist.

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."
-- Ann Coulter, MSNBC, February 8, 1997

B- She supports Jim Crow voting laws.

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."
-- Ann Coulter, Hannity & Colmes, August 17, 1997

C- She places ideology over ability.

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."
-- Ann Coulter, Washington Post, August 1, 2000

D- She's anti-environment to a radical, extreme degree.

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it! It's yours.'"
-- Ann Coulter, Hannity & Colmes,June 20, 2001

E- She's as extreme as the Taliban, and looking for a Jihad even harder.

On Islamic extremists: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
-- Ann Coulter, National Review Online, September 2001

F- She's a warmonger with no respect for education.

"...a cruise missile is more important than Head Start."
-- Ann Coulter, Nov. 2001 speech rebroadcast by C-Span in Jan. 2002

G- She's got no problem with pogroms on the home front either.

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty.We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors."
-- Ann Coulter, CPAC convention, February 2002

H- No respect for freedom of the press either.

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
-- Ann Coulter to George Gurley, New York Observer, August 21, 2002

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She may have toned down the rhetoric some now that she's looking for deeper involvement in politics (thus making her as hypocritical as the folks she flames) but the core beliefs are there, which seem to amount to naught more than a metric ton of hate poured into a human form.

No, I don't think we want her on the bench, do we ?

I sure don't, because that right to bear arms isn't gonna do me a great deal of good when a lynch mob 200 strong torches my home with her gleeful approval because I do not share her beliefs.

-K
 
Err, might wanna rethink that one. - Khaotic

Do you quote her in context or make allowance for any tongue-in-cheek remarks? I don't need to defend her. I just wondered, always skeptical of those who make it a point to dig the dirt.
 
Ann Coulter sarcastically turns the hyperbolic language of the left around to mock them with.

Many on the left don't get the joke, which only makes it funnier to those who do.
 
Do you quote her in context or make allowance for any tongue-in-cheek remarks? I don't need to defend her. I just wondered, always skeptical of those who make it a point to dig the dirt.

I've watched her, read her work in fact - and it scares me a lot, she's not at all kidding that I can see, that's what the creepifying thing is.

And having said that, what would your reaction be if you were a polish jew in 1936 when ole Adolf started making his speeches and someone said "oh he's just mocking the other party.."

She's stated numerous times her support of the basic facts above, in volminous detail, and to hear anyone support her for a public office.. who's next, David Duke ? William Karr ? Carl Panzram ?

I am all for free speech, but if any other belief or political slant were to fire off that way they'd have hate-crime thrown all over them.
(No, I don't think she should have it thrown at her too, I think NOBODY should, free speech for everyone, even if you despise what they say!)

Would you really support someone for the SCOTUS who felt the Constitution was secondary to their own fascist political agenda ? why ?

The purpose of the SCOTUS is to enforce the Constitution, and prevent excesses of the Legislative and Executive branches, a check and balance somewhat subverted by the politics of appointments, and weakened by executive orders - but an intended check and balance nonetheless.

They're not SUPPOSED to have personal opinions on a subject, they're supposed to rule on whether something is in their jurisdiction or not, and then whether it is constitutional or not - those are two Yes/No decisions.

It would not serve the american people to allow a radical of ANY stripe on the bench.... and it wouldn't serve ME (tiny bit of personal interest here) to support someone who'd gladly bring back the death camps for people like me if she was only allowed to.

No thanks.

-K
 
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