Another ID these rounds

[eddiememphis]

I bought an M48 Yugo Mauser in 8mm and it came with a lot ammo.

In another post, members were able to identify one bag as 7.62x54R.

More sorting reveals two different headstamps.

The first is brass case with a magnetic bullet. They came in 5 round clips.



The clips are in great shape- it looks like if this is old ammo, it has been stored well.



The other ammo was loose in an ammo box.



This is steel cased and steel jacketed? A magnet sticks to both. I have a LOT of the 22/74 head stamp ammo.

Most of it is in good shape. I pulled out the round that had any corrosion on them.

I have not broken down either round to weigh the bullets.

Can someone identify the ammo from the head stamps?

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

The stuff in strippers is Turk wartime 8mm. Lead core, steel jacket.
1/2 the stuff I tried to fire was a dud or hangfire. The other half was unbelievably corrosive.
Garbage ammo, IMO- the powder is junk and the brass brittle. Best to tear it down and toss it.
Save the clips, of course.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I bought an M48 Yugo Mauser in 8mm and it came with a lot ammo.

In another post, members were able to identify one bag as 7.62x54R.

More sorting reveals two different headstamps.

The first is brass case with a magnetic bullet. They came in 5 round clips.View attachment 1204850

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The clips are in great shape- it looks like if this is old ammo, it has been stored well.

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The other ammo was loose in an ammo box.

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This is steel cased and steel jacketed? A magnet sticks to both. I have a LOT of the 22/74 head stamp ammo.

Most of it is in good shape. I pulled out the round that had any corrosion on them.

I have not broken down either round to weigh the bullets.

Can someone identify the ammo from the head stamps?

I goggled it and found a IAA discussion (second hit). It’s Romanian made ammo 7.92X56mm (yes, the steel lacquered cases are 1mm shorter than brass). It was manufactured from around 1972-78 by the State plant “22” which was “U.M. Sadu” located in Gorj county.
Sometimes a browser search is faster than a forum post.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

I goggled it and found a IAA discussion (second hit). It’s Romanian made ammo 7.92X56mm (yes, the steel lacquered cases are 1mm shorter than brass). It was manufactured from around 1972-78 by the State plant “22” which was “U.M. Sadu” located in Gorj county.
Sometimes a browser search is faster than a forum post.

I thought that looked familiar. The green case laquer is notorious for becoming sticky goo when hot, as well as being loaded on the hot side.
A little better than the turk poo, but not by much. I'd keep it for "wartime emergency" use, but thats about it.

 

[allisd17]

I bought an M48 Yugo Mauser in 8mm and it came with a lot ammo.

In another post, members were able to identify one bag as 7.62x54R.

More sorting reveals two different headstamps.

The first is brass case with a magnetic bullet. They came in 5 round clips.View attachment 1204850

View attachment 1204851

The clips are in great shape- it looks like if this is old ammo, it has been stored well.

View attachment 1204852

The other ammo was loose in an ammo box.

View attachment 1204853

This is steel cased and steel jacketed? A magnet sticks to both. I have a LOT of the 22/74 head stamp ammo.

Most of it is in good shape. I pulled out the round that had any corrosion on them.

I have not broken down either round to weigh the bullets.

Can someone identify the ammo from the head stamps?

Your Turk ammo looks nice. I've shot LOTS of the stuff with 1940-1950 headstamps; never had a dud or hangfire, just a few cracked necks with the 1947 vintage. It all depends on how it was stored. Both Turk and Romanian have light bullets, about 154g; German and Yugo are 196-198g.

I've never had much luck with the 1-piece brass Turk strippers. Yugo strippers are much better, German is the best.

 

[eddiememphis]

I goggled it and found a IAA discussion (second hit). It’s Romanian made ammo 7.92X56mm (yes, the steel lacquered cases are 1mm shorter than brass). It was manufactured from around 1972-78 by the State plant “22” which was “U.M. Sadu” located in Gorj county.
Sometimes a browser search is faster than a forum post.

But then we wouldn't get the pleasure of you telling everyone how smart you are!

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

But then we wouldn't get the pleasure of you telling everyone how smart you are!

I never said I was oh so clever. But you can infer from my attempt to be helpful.
Oh, and, never again.

 

[Walkalong]

But then we wouldn't get the pleasure of you telling everyone how smart you are!

He was just trying to be helpful, and he did seem to find the answer you were looking for.

 

[tmd16556]

Try to spin the bullet in the Turkish ammo. About 1 in 10 I have (1943) has a neck split and it will turn freely. They have some interesting powder with square flakes and it seems almost compressed under a 154gr bullet.
Turkey stockpiled a lot of 7.9 Mauser during the war. They also stayed neutral until the last month, coming in on the winning side. They didn’t expend much of what they made, and missed the importance of annealing case necks in the process.

 

[Show Me]

I goggled it and found a IAA discussion (second hit). It’s Romanian made ammo 7.92X56mm (yes, the steel lacquered cases are 1mm shorter than brass). It was manufactured from around 1972-78 by the State plant “22” which was “U.M. Sadu” located in Gorj county.
Sometimes a browser search is faster than a forum post.

Cool , I'd rather read facts from actual research like this and move on . The forum is slow on good reading right now. Who dosent Google first ask questions last. We need actual mysteries to work on.

 

[Palladan44]

I've seen the prices of the wartime surplus 8mm Turk stuff going down in price over the last decade.......
That tells all.

 

[Jim Watson]

They have some interesting powder with square flakes

Kind of a European thing; nitrocellulose rolled out into a sheet, then sliced into square flakes. I think some of the old well liked Alcan powders were that type.