Another Walther PDP Appreciation Thread

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Since I'm an avowed Walther fan, I thought it was time to share my latest addition, an OD Green Walther PDP Compact. The Trijicon RMR is a recent addition. The ability to mount a red dot sight was the entire reason I picked up this pistol in the first place, otherwise I've been perfectly happy with the Walther PPQ.

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I probably only have 400 rounds through this pistol so far, including 100 after mounting the Trijicon RMR. It's accurate, reliable and as well made as any of the current crop of polymer service pistols. The trigger gets rave reviews from most folks, but all I really notice about the trigger on my example is that it doesn't get in the way of making good hits. The ergos are as well-thought out as all of the Walther P-99/PPQ series pistols, it's very comfortable in the hand and all controls are easy to reach and manipulate. The button magazine release is a bit of a bummer to me, as I have a pile of magazines for my paddle release PPQ M1 that are not compatible with this new pistol. The slide is chunky compare to the P-99/PPQ series pistols, being significantly wider, though it makes sense when adding the mounting plate and red dot.

Those are Ameriglo GL-492s on it for back-up irons, and they are both much taller than necessary (somewhere between a lower 1/3 and absolute cowitness) and my particular pistol prints 3" low at 12-yards with them. It was starting down the path of sorting out the proper sight heights to solve that issue that prompted me to purchase and mount the RMR a little sooner than I had planned. And I'm glad I did, both because you can get away with much shorter sights due to the height of the Walther's slide cut and the RMR is an excellent sighting solution.

At this point in time my only complaint about the pistol is that it seems to be a little over-sprung as it comes out of the box. The owner's manual warns the extensive use of +P ammunition will shorten the service life of the firearm, but it seems to work best with the 124gr FMJ Winchester 9mm NATO ammo I like for my 9mm carbines. Ejection with Federal Champion 115gr FMJ 9mm is pretty wimpy, landing only 12-18" to the right of my elbow. But even with that, the Walther hasn't given me any brass to the face or dropped empty cases on my forearms like a certain manufacturer's perfect pistols can.

Needless to say, I'm still a satisfied Walther fan, and I suspect the PDP/RMR combination will relegate my other pistols to the dark corners of the gun safe. Now I have to figure out how to keep my PPQ and PDP magazines separate enough I don't accidentally grab the wrong ones.
 
Very nice, Sir. I hopped on to the PDP bandwagon this week and I am very happily along for the ride. I have the full size and I have yet to find another polymer service pistol that has the trigger quality or the ergos of the Walther. Making precise shots is far easier because I am not fighting the trigger like I do with my Glocks. I threw a Holosun SDS on mine for the low form-factor but I love an RMR like yours - it’s like looking through a picture window compared to the postage stamp of the SCS. I am still wondering why these guns aren’t more popular as, frankly, they’re quite a bit better than comparable Glocks, HKs, and M&Ps that I own, have owned, or have been familiar with. Everyone’s mileage varies, of course.
 
Nah, get a P365; it’s a great gun! Mine’s a regular companion in a pocket holster. The P365 and PDP are not competitors in my book so you can buy both without feeling like you’ve duplicated your purchase in the least.
 
Nah, get a P365; it’s a great gun! Mine’s a regular companion in a pocket holster. The P365 and PDP are not competitors in my book so you can buy both without feeling like you’ve duplicated your purchase in the least.

Wellllll, what I'm looking to get is at minimum P365XL size (and fatten it up with a Wilson Combat grip) or at maximum Walther PDP size. Like mentioned in the other thread, whatever I choose would replace a Glock 36, which is about PDP size when I put a 7-round Hyve magazine up the magwell.

That 4" barreled Walther sure looks like it could fill the role.
 
Mmm hmm. Personally I think the advantage of the P365 is its small size and high capacity. To me (and maybe to me only!), making the P365 bigger is like turning a compact car into a limo; it really defeats the purpose of both. As much as I love the P365, if you’re debating those two, I’d say get the Walther.
 
Mine's the 4.5" compact, it doesn't seem to compact to me, I'd hate to try to CCW the thing. I wouldn't anyways with a 3.5lb trigger. But then they call my S&W Shield a micro and it's hardly that.


At this point in time my only complaint about the pistol is that it seems to be a little over-sprung as it comes out of the box.
That was a complaint of mine also. I put Sprinco's recoil management system in mine but it didn't make it any easier to rack the slide. I've been using the red spring for hotter loads. I have yet to try the yellow spring for my light target loads, and that may help.

I'll let you know, I think I'm going to the range today. I need to radar some loads today.

I like that OD Green poly frame! That gun just plain looks good. I do like the way Walther put the printing on their guns, and that white print with the green frame looks good.

They sure feel good in my hands, very comfortable to shoot. They fit like a gun should. I always thought mine was a little light in the front end also. Thought about putting a light on it just for some more weight, but they read that Walther is having someone design a compensator for it, so I may go that route instead, since mine has the threaded barrel.
Q5 Match Steel Frame Pro.jpg Mine is already very easy to stay on target with when shooting fast and I doubt the compensator will do that much more for it but adding up the trigger, recoil system, and a compensator, it should really be fun to shoot.
 
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I just ordered the brass backstrap (black) from Taylor Freelance and a micro compensator from HB Industries. The backstrap will add something like 5oz to the grip which should balance some of that top-heaviness. The comp allegedly works; we’ll see. Even if it’s useless, it’s a better looking thread protector :).
 
Mmm hmm. Personally I think the advantage of the P365 is its small size and high capacity. To me (and maybe to me only!), making the P365 bigger is like turning a compact car into a limo; it really defeats the purpose of both. As much as I love the P365, if you’re debating those two, I’d say get the Walther.
Not if you are going to carry it inside your waist band and want a longer grip . The Walther PDP is even thicker than a Glock .
 
Red rick, you’re quite right about that. I guess I still view them as having different applications. The concealability nod would definitely go to the Sig in this instance.
 
I just ordered the brass backstrap (black) from Taylor Freelance and a micro compensator from HB Industries. The backstrap will add something like 5oz to the grip which should balance some of that top-heaviness. The comp allegedly works; we’ll see. Even if it’s useless, it’s a better looking thread protector :).
Let me know how both of those work out , expecially the comp. I need to get off my butt and get one ordered.

I've been trying to get into HB Industries and their web site must be down or something. I'll try later.
 
Will do! The microcomps shipped today (I ordered one for my CZ P-09 and S&W M&P 5.7 too). The backstrap will be 3-4 days.

Looked at the PDP match steel frame today… very nice. Top of the line model… expensive. Intrigued though.
 
I think its a Q5 steel Frame match pro re-named. Looks identical to my Q5 SF PRO Match.

Yes they are expensive but they are one hell of a gun. Mine is a lot easier to shoot accurately than my PDP maybe because of the weight.
I have a Red dot on my Q5 and maybe thats part of it to.
I just shoot better with my Q5
I didn't want to wear out my Q5 as a range toy so I bought the PDP SD pro.
It makes me work harder to shoot accurately, more so than the Q5, if that makes any sense.
But the PDP is less than half the price.
 
Yes my PDP Pro SD was $700-change out the door… total bargain for a pistol so sophisticated. The Q5 steel frame match I looked at was north of $1500. I already have a few steel framed CZs that are hard to beat so it’s hard to justify the Walther. I like it, but will it do any better? Can it top the gilt-edged accuracy and 1.5lb trigger of a Tactical Sport 2 Orange? I don’t know. I’ve totally reinvigorated my love for Walther with my PDP but I think that might be the end of it.
 
Bada bing, bada boom, done. This cost me less than a Sig P365XL w/ an added Wilson Combat grip frame that I was eyeing.

The first thing I did was swap out the front sight with a Glock green fiber optic that I had left over from another gun. It ran flawlessly today until the front sight screw came loose and wedged in between the barrel and slide. Once clearing that jam, I finished out my last magazine without the front sight. Of course, it was shooting high and a bit scattered due to that.

The best I can tell that the threads on the front sight screw were weak from the previous install. They just let go after about 130 rounds. When I got back home, I tested the torque the screw could take and found it stripped.

In my initial outing with this Walther PDP compact today, I believe this pistola thinks it's a target gun. It has an amazingly good trigger for this type of firearm. Plus, great hand fit, great layout of controls, and a big chunky easy to grasp slide that soaks up recoil. The factory three dot sights would be okay if I wasn't 59 years old.

Thanks to @vanfunk and @wanderinwalker, I think I found a pistola to accompany me for quite some time. This Walther is so easy to operate compared to some other autoloaders I have.

Now, to do something about that sighting system. 🙃
 
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Congratulations! That looks like a honey! Sorry that your range happiness was diminished by a failed sight screw; those screws seem to have a finite life (read: one install) and I always use a fresh one when swapping. I also use blue loctite which generally keeps things in place but can be removed without Herculean effort. I love that OD frame of yours and wish I could find one; everything around me you can get any color as long as it’s tactical black. I am not surprised by your accuracy - these things are lasers.
 
A little update on progress with the PDP Compact/RMR combo. It was chilly and rainy early Sunday evening when I finally made it to the 25-yard pistol bay to verify zero. I was almost giddy with how much easier making groups at 25 yards is with the RMR versus iron sights. There are 12 hits in the head box of that silhouette target; the 2 lowest ones were leaked out from shooting high on the torso at the start of the trip, the other 10 were deliberate head shots. After burning a box of 115gr CCI Blazer I stapled up that 50-foot rapid fire target and punched out 5 rounds of 147gr Speer Lawman to see how much different the POI/POA would be with the heavier bullets. For reference, that aiming point is approximately 3", and the 2 least-friendly rounds in that group are about 2.5" center-to-center. That's approaching the generally accepted mechanical limits of most service grade semi-automatic handguns.

Needless to say, I'm pleased beyond belief and will NOT be letting this combination out of my grasp. I might even have to spring for a case of 147gr ammo to keep it fed.

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(I'll put some more rounds through the RMR and maybe do a write-up on it in the Accessories forum. After waffling back and forth a bit, I went with the 3.25 MOA dot instead of the 6.5 MOA version. So far I'm glad I did. To my eyes, at 25-yards the 3.25-MOA dot is just slightly smaller than that 3" aiming point.)
 
Nice shootin’! It’s pretty cool when you start to settle down with a new gun and start to shoot it well, isn’t it?

I want an RMR or SRO for my CZ P-10F but I’d prefer a green dot, not sure they come with one. I love how well built the RMRs are. So far I am happy with the Holosun SCSs on a few guns but I still wish the window was bigger.
 
Nice shootin’! It’s pretty cool when you start to settle down with a new gun and start to shoot it well, isn’t it?

I want an RMR or SRO for my CZ P-10F but I’d prefer a green dot, not sure they come with one. I love how well built the RMRs are. So far I am happy with the Holosun SCSs on a few guns but I still wish the window was bigger.

Thanks! I generally find I can passably figure out most pistols I've within a magazine or so. Aside from H&K USPs, they resist my efforts to make hits with them...

Since this is my first pistol dot, I have no frame of reference for window size (get it? :rofl: ) except for looking through some at a store. I wanted the RMR because I have an Aimpoint PRO and a Trijicon MRO on my ARs and decided to "do it right" and get something else with a reputation for being tougher than woodpecker lips. My MRO is the green dot version and I do find my eyes pick it up slightly more quickly than the red on the PRO. The dot on the RMR is big and bright enough that it jumps out to me, but I'd be all over trying one in green, or maybe a green SRO with the bigger window, on a future project. The downside to the green is battery life: the green MRO is rated for 1-year of run time on setting 3 (I think), while the PRO is rated for 3 years at setting 6 and the RMR should be good for 2-4 years on automatic, depending on how much time it's stored in the dark.
 
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