Anthrax and VX found in Iraq

[Salpalinja]

Large quantities has been found from Iraq, says Saddams advisor Amer al-Saadi.

How can this be

 

[Blackhawk]

Maybe they're not the "see no evil" UN inspectors...?

 

[telewinz]

More details please. Is this guy a defector or is he still (soon to be late) Saddam's advisor?

 

[Salpalinja]

Original story here , in finnish.

It says iraq notified that large quantities of anthrax and VX gas was found. It does not say who found it. The information was released by Saddams advisor Amer al-Saadi.

 

[Blackhawk]

Well, that certainly clears things up!

 

[hammer4nc]

Link (in English): http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6067227%5E1702,00.html

Anthrax, VX uncovered in Iraq
From correspondents in Baghdad
March 03, 2003

SIGNIFICANT quantities of anthrax and VX nerve agent have been accounted for during ongoing excavations in Iraq, Iraqi presidential adviser Amer al-Saadi has said.

He said excavations at the al-Aziziya air base, 104km south-west of Baghdad, had also uncovered bomb fragments.

Iraq insists it destroyed tonnes of toxic agents unilaterally in 1991.

The discovery was announced as UN biological experts arrived for talks with Iraqi authorities.

"So far we have reached a figure not quite 157 (tonnes of anthrax), but we are nearing it, there is work in progress," Saadi told a news conference.
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So the question is, will this be viewed as a material breach, or "significant progress" toward disarmarment?

 

[dinosaur]

By the time CNN broadcasts it, it`ll be "Two Cans Of Raid Found". :banghead:

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

Sheesh... talk about misleading headlines. If you read the story carefully, you'll see the Iraqis are claiming evidence of destroyed weapons. Whether it turns out to be true or not, that's as far from "Anthrax, VX uncovered in Iraq" as you can get.

Whatever happened to critical thinking?

 

[Thumper]

Critical thinking? Depends on your predeliction, I suppose.

I guess you're not at all critical of the idea that they just happened to "find" 157 tons of anthrax?

Another question, Malone...What do you think would have been done with that 157 TONS of discovered Anthrax were the U.S. not pushing the issue? Not a chance in Hades you'll answer that.

I don't think the title was missleading at all...I think it was very perceptive. The author demonstrated "critical thinking."

 

[Baba Louie]

Oh, you mean THAT Anthrax and VX????

I... uh... forgot. Yeah, that's the ticket, I forgot.

Oops.

So whattya gonna do about it?

Invade?

HAH!

The UN and Susan Sarandon say you can't, so there.

That stuff hardly worked anyway.

Adios

 

[Selfdfenz]

OMG. It's happened.
I agree with Malone.

Uh.... now what are those chest pains.....where are those dang nitoglycerin tabs.....ug the pain!!!...


S

 

[Marshall]

Just another link in the chain of deception, lies, and manipulation. Iraqi's are smart enough to know that half the worlds enablers will believe them or use it as feather in their hat regardless if it's true or not.

 

[natedog]

What a surprise...

 

[hso]

Ok, let me get this straight. The UN required the Iraqis to destroy biological and chemical weapons previously. The current inspection teams discover physical and records evidence that the materials were destroyed. The Iraqis claim that this validates their position that they destroyed 157 tonnes of the stuff. From my perspective this looks like they're claiming credit for having destroyed the materials. In no way does it indicate that any new materials have been found. It also doesn't prove conclusivly that 157 tonnes were actually destroyed or that 157 tonnes was all the material that was available at the time to be destroyed. In other words, it doesn't tell us much more than the Iraqis destroyed VX and Anthrax when required to by the UN.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

I guess you're not at all critical of the idea that they just happened to "find" 157 tons of anthrax?

Another question, Malone...What do you think would have been done with that 157 TONS of discovered Anthrax were the U.S. not pushing the issue? Not a chance in Hades you'll answer that.

Read again VERY SLOOOWLY and CAREFULLY and explain to me about the "discovered" anthrax.

For the record, I am not at all uncritical of the Iraqis for having ever had those weapons, whether they have them now or not (and no one knows the answer to that). But my moral indignation of Iraq loses some of it's punch when I reflect that my country has more WMDs than the rest of the world combined. Chem and bio weapons are known as the "poor man's nuke" for a reason.

 

[CZ-75]

But my moral indignation of Iraq loses some of it's punch when I reflect that my country has more WMDs than the rest of the world combined.

But who's more likely to use them. We used WMDs twice; Saddam used them on his own people, as well as in his war with Iran

 

[twoblink]

Do you think Saddem will use the "Twinkie" defense??

He ate too much sugar that day and so couldn't remember how much VX and anthrax he had destroyed??

 

[Gary H]

Does anyone know what the life cycle of these weapons might be? I have read that Anthrax exposed to the sun rapidly dies. Would a country with these weapons need to regularly dispose of old stock, or can these weapons stay potent for many years?

 

[Drjones]

But my moral indignation of Iraq loses some of it's punch when I reflect that my country has more WMDs than the rest of the world combined.

Malone, I respect you for being one of very few to voice an opinion very contrary to most here, but COME ON!

Did you really just say that???



:banghead:

 

[0007]

anthrax life

FWIW - I remember reading several accounts of islands off the coast of Great Britain that were used for anthrax/germ warfare testing during WWII and were still contaminated with live cultures in the soil. This was 30-40 years after the fact.

 

[redneck2]

This happens every morning at my house...

honey....

HONEEEEYYYYY!!!!

I'm going off to war now,

Do you know what I did with that darn 157 tons of anthrax????

Heck, anybody could lose a little anthrax. I have to look for my keys most mornings.

157 tons would only be the size of a few houses. You could lose that anywhere.

 

[fallingblock]

Drjones....

Malone may be having a bad day...

 

[Baba Louie]

Yes, and our country has been ruled by a Dictator or the past 20 something years as well. One who has been known to assasinate opposition as well as several thousands of tribal members living in our north as well as attacking the two neighboring countries for their oil fields.

Bomb Canada, Invade Mexico.

Malone, you convinced me totally, 100%. You're right, I'm wrong and probably always have been.

I promise to start thinking like a victim and will always assume that we/I am to blame for every ill the world faces.

Thank you sir for enlightening moi.

Adios

 

[Jack19]

Big surprise.

The Kurds and ther Iranians knew he had Bio and Chem weapons....what's the shock?

 

[Salpalinja]

Iraq says that it destroyed 157 shells of botuline, anthrax and aflotoxin in 1991. And now they have found 7 shells fully intact from the area where they destroyed them. (According to Helsingin sanomat)

This is a little episode in a big game where Saddam is the current champion. And how hard can it be to destroy the missiles?? Of course there is no point to destroy them when they are preparing for war.