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From the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A24179-2003Nov10?language=printer):

Soros's Deep Pockets vs. Bush
Financier Contributes $5 Million More in Effort to Oust President

By Laura Blumenfeld
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 11, 2003; Page A03

NEW YORK -- George Soros, one of the world's richest men, has given away nearly $5 billion to promote democracy in the former Soviet bloc, Africa and Asia. Now he has a new project: defeating President Bush.

"It is the central focus of my life," Soros said, his blue eyes settled on an unseen target. The 2004 presidential race, he said in an interview, is "a matter of life and death."

Soros, who has financed efforts to promote open societies in more than 50 countries around the world, is bringing the fight home, he said. On Monday, he and a partner committed up to $5 million to MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group, bringing to $15.5 million the total of his personal contributions to oust Bush.

Overnight, Soros, 74, has become the major financial player of the left. He has elicited cries of foul play from the right. And with a tight nod, he pledged: "If necessary, I would give more money."

"America, under Bush, is a danger to the world," Soros said. Then he smiled: "And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is."

Soros believes that a "supremacist ideology" guides this White House. He hears echoes in its rhetoric of his childhood in occupied Hungary. "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans." It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit ("The enemy is listening"). "My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me," he said in a soft Hungarian accent.

Soros's contributions are filling a gap in Democratic Party finances that opened after the restrictions in the 2002 McCain-Feingold law took effect. In the past, political parties paid a large share of television and get-out-the-vote costs with unregulated "soft money" contributions from corporations, unions and rich individuals. The parties are now barred from accepting such money. But non-party groups in both camps are stepping in, accepting soft money and taking over voter mobilization.

"It's incredibly ironic that George Soros is trying to create a more open society by using an unregulated, under-the-radar-screen, shadowy, soft-money group to do it," Republican National Committee spokeswoman Christine Iverson said. "George Soros has purchased the Democratic Party."

In past election cycles, Soros contributed relatively modest sums. In 2000, his aide said, he gave $122,000, mostly to Democratic causes and candidates. But recently, Soros has grown alarmed at the influence of neoconservatives, whom he calls "a bunch of extremists guided by a crude form of social Darwinism."

Neoconservatives, Soros said, are exploiting the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to promote a preexisting agenda of preemptive war and world dominion. "Bush feels that on September 11th he was anointed by God," Soros said. "He's leading the U.S. and the world toward a vicious circle of escalating violence."

Soros said he had been waking at 3 a.m., his thoughts shaking him "like an alarm clock." Sitting in his robe, he wrote his ideas down, longhand, on a stack of pads. In January, PublicAffairs will publish them as a book, "The Bubble of American Supremacy" (an excerpt appears in December's Atlantic Monthly). In it, he argues for a collective approach to security, increased foreign aid and "preventive action."

"It would be too immodest for a private person to set himself up against the president," he said. "But it is, in fact" -- he chuckled -- "the Soros Doctorine."

His campaign began last summer with the help of Morton H. Halperin, a liberal think tank veteran. Soros invited Democratic strategists to his house in Southampton, Long Island, including Clinton chief of staff John D. Podesta, Jeremy Rosner, Robert Boorstin and Carl Pope.

They discussed the coming election. Standing on the back deck, the evening sun angling into their eyes, Soros took aside Steve Rosenthal, CEO of the liberal activist group America Coming Together (ACT), and Ellen Malcolm, its president. They were proposing to mobilize voters in 17 battleground states. Soros told them he would give ACT $10 million.

Asked about his moment in the sun, Rosenthal deadpanned: "We were disappointed. We thought a guy like George Soros could do more." Then he laughed. "No, kidding! It was thrilling."

Malcolm: "It was like getting his Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval."

"They were ready to kiss me," Soros quipped.

Before coffee the next morning, his friend Peter Lewis, chairman of the Progressive Corp., had pledged $10 million to ACT. Rob Glaser, founder and CEO of RealNetworks, promised $2 million. Rob McKay, president of the McKay Family Foundation, gave $1 million and benefactors Lewis and Dorothy Cullman committed $500,000.

Soros also promised up to $3 million to Podesta's new think tank, the Center for American Progress.

Soros will continue to recruit wealthy donors for his campaign. Having put a lot of money into the war of ideas around the world, he has learned that "money buys talent; you can advocate more effectively."

At his home in Westchester, N.Y., he raised $115,000 for Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean. He also supports Democratic presidential contenders Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark and Rep. Richard A. Gephardt (Mo.).

In an effort to limit Soros's influence, the RNC sent a letter to Dean Monday, asking him to request that ACT and similar organizations follow the McCain-Feingold restrictions limiting individual contributions to $2,000.

The RNC is not the only group irked by Soros. Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, which promotes changes in campaign finance , has benefited from Soros's grants over the years. Soros has backed altering campaign finance, an aide said, donating close to $18 million over the past seven years.

"There's some irony, given the supporting role he played in helping to end the soft money system," Wertheimer said. "I'm sorry that Mr. Soros has decided to put so much money into a political effort to defeat a candidate. We will be watchdogging him closely."

An aide said Soros welcomes the scrutiny. Soros has become as rich as he has, the aide said, because he has a preternatural instinct for a good deal.

Asked whether he would trade his $7 billion fortune to unseat Bush, Soros opened his mouth. Then he closed it. The proposal hung in the air: Would he become poor to beat Bush?

He said, "If someone guaranteed it."
 
Soros would sell out his own people for his mislead ideals... oh wait, he already has. Every time he gave money to the Democrats.
 
My 3 degrees of separation from George Soros....

Grrrr....major foriegn investments in domestic politics should be criminal.

The Degrees of Separation: Me--->Peter The Hungarian (who considers me his second Dad) -->George Soros

Anyway, the young Hungarian man mentioned in this post: CommunoSocialism Steals; Therefore it Sucks was on an exchange program sponsored by Soros, who wanted the future leaders of Hungary to study America so they would know and understand how to operate a Capitalistic Democracy.

As I understand it, his guys debriefed the students upon their return, and reported that they had absorbed concepts of freedom, self determination, and individual responsibility, and that they weren't particularly amenable to statist thinking.


He canceled the program.

Oh, yeah, and the Hungarians are still unarmed. They need background checks and permits for BB guns.
 
If anyone had any doubts that the Democratic Party was for sale to the highest bidder, there's your answer. Soros' problem is going to be that they won't stay bought.
 
http://www.moveon.org/about/

Who started MoveOn?
MoveOn was started by Joan Blades and Wes Boyd, two Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, with their family and friends. Although none of us had experience in politics, all shared deep frustration with impeachment and the lack of congressional leadership toward quick resolution. We all heard this same sentiment from a diverse group of friends and colleagues. On September 18th 1998, we decided to do something. Three of us with background in Internet software worked on the website. Others have worked to put together materials and start the ball rolling through their personal contacts. We are located all over the country, but most of the web work took place in Silicon Valley.

The MoveOn Peace campaign was founded independently as "9-11Peace.org" by Eli Pariser, a Maine native and recent graduate of Simon's Rock College of Bard. In the days following September 11th, 2001, he launched an online petition calling for a peaceful response to break the cycle of violence, which was quickly signed by more than one hundred thousand people in the U.S. and almost half a million worldwide. Eli joined forces with MoveOn soon afterward, and is now our International Campaigns Director.

Who pays for MoveOn?
Initial funding for MoveOn was provided by Joan Blades and Wes Boyd. We have also received generous contributions from many other individuals. Because MoveOn.org has only a tiny staff, our costs are very low. You can support our work with a secure online contribution. Almost all of our funding comes through these donations from people like you. Our charitable activities are supported in part by grants from the Richard & Rhoda Goldman Fund, the Curtis and Edith Munson Foundation, the Iraq Peace Fund, and anonymous donors. Fiscal sponsorship is provided by the San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Funds, a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

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MoveOn.org Staff:

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Joan Blades is co-founder of MoveOn.org, a Board member and volunteer for the organization, to which she brings her expertise in consumer marketing and mediation. Joan is a software industry veteran, having co-founded Berkeley Systems. Ms. Blades served on the Berkeley Systems board and as the Vice President of Marketing. Prior to her work in consumer software, Ms. Blades taught mediation at Golden Gate Law School, and practiced mediation. She wrote Mediate Your Divorce, published by Prentice Hall, and co-authored The Divorce Book, published by New Harbinger Publications. She is a past member of the California and Alaska bar associations. Ms. Blades is also an artist, with works published on both greeting cards and software packaging.




Wes Boyd is co-founder and President of MoveOn.org, and also a Board member and full-time volunteer for the organization, to which he brings his considerable expertise in both technical design and implementation and consumer marketing. Prior to founding MoveOn.org, Wes and his wife Joan Blades co-founded Berkeley Systems, a leading entertainment software company, best known for Flying Toaster screen savers, and You Don't Know Jack, an online game show. Mr. Boyd served as Berkeley Systems' Chief Executive Officer, growing the company to 150 employees and $30 million in sales. Prior to his work in consumer software, Mr. Boyd authored software for blind and visually impaired users allowing full access to computers with a graphical user interface. In the 1970s and early 1980s, Mr. Boyd served at the University of California as a senior staff programmer on research projects.


Carrie Olson, Chief Operating Officer of MoveOn.org, played an integral part in the early formation of MoveOn.org in fall of 1998, and has since made use of her 25 years of experience in operations management to ensure that the day to day mechanics of the organization run smoothly. She brings with her many years of grassroots activist experience, and has boundless enthusiasm for MoveOn.org’s capability to organize people for good causes via the internet. Prior to her work with MoveOn.org, Carrie was Director of Internal Operations for Berkeley Systems, a successful internet and software development company.

Peter Schurman is Executive Director and a Board member of MoveOn.org. He previously founded Generation Net, an internet-based advocacy organization for young people. Peter has ten years of experience in the nonprofit, public policy, environment, education, and government fields, as a grassroots- and media-organizer, fundraiser, organizational developer, and manager. He has worked on environmental issues for organizations including the Sierra Club and the American Lung Association, on youth organizing with Lead… or Leave, and on Capitol Hill for Congressman Gary Ackerman. He believes deeply in broadening the inclusiveness of democratic decision-making through the many-to-many capacity of the Internet. He completed an MBA at Yale in 2000, concentrating in leadership and nonprofit management, and won the Social Entrepreneurship Prize in a business plan competition there. Peter also holds a BA in history from the University of Pennsylvania. He grew up mostly in Portland, Maine.


Eli Pariser is Campaigns Director for MoveOn.org. Eli joined MoveOn.org after starting 9-11peace.org, an international peace campaign with over half a million supporters in 192 countries. (9-11peace.org is now a part of MoveOn.org.) Eli graduated from Simon's Rock College in 2000 with a B.A. in Political Science. Before starting 9-11peace.org, Eli was Web and IT Director for More Than Money, a nonprofit that helps wealthy people use their resources for the public good, and Co-Director of the American Story Project, an online documentary exploring the political beliefs of ordinary Americans. Eli is originally from Camden, Maine, and now lives in New York City.


Zack Exley is MoveOn.org's Organizing Director. At MoveOn.org, he combines a background in grassroots organizing with a long-time hobby and occasional career in technology. He has worked as a union organizer in a dozen states with SEIU, UAW and the AFL-CIO, and as a software developer in the financial sector. He holds a BA in economics from the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. Before joining MoveOn.org, Zack had already earned a reputation for using the Internet for fun and progress with parody and activist websites such as TheGreatCrash.com, Countercoup.org, AngryDems.com and one that must unfortunately remain nameless due to a legal settlement with CNN. His parody site GWBush.com earned him the title of "garbage man" from George W. Bush and caused the soon-to-be president to come right out and say, on camera, "There ought to be limits to freedom." Zack lives in Washington, D.C.
 
Of course, the Dems still claim to be the party of "the little guy" while they (now their ancillary organizations) suck up million $ donations from limosine liberals like Soros.

In the 2002 election cycle, Dems sucked up $72 mil from donations of $100k or more to $34 mil for the GOP. Most of this came from Hollywierd.
 
Lemme see if I got this right.

--Chinese funneling money to the DNC to re-elect Clinton as president. Repbulicans go ape.

--George Soros (Canadian citizen) is ok'd to funnel money into the electoral process in an effort to defeat Dubya. Republicans have yet to squeal.

So how come no outrage over Soros' money corrupting US elections but Clinton was soundly criticized for the same act from a different country.

I guess money from slant eyed people is bad, but money from round eyed people is ok.
 
We all know George .....

He's the one Hillery got to put up the money to fund the original Million Mommie March.
 
Theory #1) You can turn anything into a liberal if you append the word "Berkeley" in front or behind the word..

Theory #2) Never believe anything the super rich have to say; they conspire on a whole different level then we do. They are trying to create polar market movement so they can capitalize on it.

Theory #3) Soros is equating Bush to Hitler?? RIGHT...
 
How can these people pose as leaders of "grassroots" movments? Listening to them you'd think they sprouted out of the ghetto shouting revolutionary slogans when in fact they are fat cat wealthy busybodies with a lot more money than brains. The NRA and the vilified "gun lobby", being composed largely of farmers, soldiers, factory workers, etc., is orders of magnitude more "grassroots" than these loudmouths.
 
3 of them are from "Berkley Systems"

The software company that developed
the Macintosh Screen Saver "After Dark" with the Flying Toasters
and the PC game "You Don't Know Jack"
 
I was incorrect on Soros's views on guns.

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The Center on Crime, Communities and Culture, a project of the Open Society Institute, funds projects to achieve public safety solutions through sentencing reform and by reducing both gun violence and excessive incarceration. The Open Society Institute is a nonprofit grantmaking foundation created by George Soros. The Funders’ Collaborative for Gun Violence Prevention consists of OSI, the Irene Diamond Fund and other funders working together to reduce and prevent the harm caused by excessive availibility of guns.
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:amq-x_ytHh4J:www.soros.org/crime/PRguncontrol.htm
 
In what way, w4rma?

"I was incorrect on Soros's views on guns."
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Soros is as rabidly anti-gun as any on the far left, and more so than most.
:eek:

He would qualify as "a good guy" compared to Pol Pot, perhaps, but Soros shares Pol's elitist authoritarian fantasies. :barf:
 
What I would like to hear iis the whining George Soros would do if he had to spend most of his fortune on his own personal protection. If he was afraid to breathe he might have a different attitude.
 
Soros was interviewed on NPR last night

He did not see any problem with a campaign finance reform advocate
funding an Anti bush campaign for 5 million dollars
because he is not directly involved in MoveOns processes.

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1503707

Soros Makes Waves with Contributions

All Things Considered audio

Nov. 12, 2003
NPR's Melissa Block talks with billionaire George Soros, founder of the Open Society Institute and chairman of Soros Fund Management, about the arrest of Russian tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky and the raid on the Open Society Institute's office last week. Soros also comments on his recent pledge of $5 million to the liberal activist group, MoveOn.org.
 
Soros became much more politically active and vocal AFTER he was convicted for insider trading (in France) last year.

He didn't get any political cover, like he did when he monkeyed around with the Bank of England (currency speculation on the Pound in 1992) or I believe the Yen (1997 pre Asian financial market collapse.)

George broke a lot of toes, and banks, getting to where he is today. I think he's willing to step on a lot more in the last years of his life.

Marty
 
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