ithacalover
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When fanatical positions are involved, I find it doesn't make much sense voicing a rebuttal. Let their own comments illustrate their insanity.
When fanatical positions are involved, I find it doesn't make much sense voicing a rebuttal. Let their own comments illustrate their insanity.
Prohibition violence + Bonus Army + nationwide Labor unrest + FDR's Congress and Executive + MEDIA FRENZY = NFA, Act of June 26, 1934.
I don't care how it was used or in what context. That is a HORRIBLE thing to say!:banghead:"I hate to say it but it's going to take the kind of massacre that kills lots of children. That's the only way we are going to see progress," from Bryan Jones.
"There are a lot of things to consider," Brown said. "We still have open borders. Absent federal legislation ... people can still walk right across the border and buy guns in Idaho."
On the flip side maybe it will take a few more Pearl Mississippi type incidents for the antis to see that these rules are counter effective.
And what would this person propose? Barbed wire fences around all borders and security checkpoints at every possible entrance and exit? Papers please, show me your papers!
"I hate to say it but it's going to take the kind of massacre that kills lots of children. That's the only way we are going to see progress,"
There is an article accessible only to LEO's at policeone.com speculating on brutal terrorist attacks on our schools like the one that happened a couple of years ago in Russia that killed hundreds of people. When that happens, would our pathetic politicians then put up another sheep-bleating sign "PLEASE, we really mean NO GUNS in schools"?
"California regulated the hell out of guns -- and they don't get in trouble."
Bryan Jones, director of the Center for American Politics and Public Policy at the University of Washington, agreed that the gun lobby is the main reason politicians are unlikely to pass new control laws.
Though the political risk is not nearly as big as it is perceived, fear still prevails, he said.
"Politicians are afraid of the NRA and they are not afraid of the ACLU. It's that simple," Jones said.
That fear may be unwarranted, he said.
"California regulated the hell out of guns -- and they don't get in trouble."
Jones said the National Rifle Association's power is declining, but he thinks Washington politicians are "playing it safe in the sense that: Why kick a sleeping dog that's leaving you alone right now?" he said.
"I hate to say it but it's going to take the kind of massacre that kills lots of children. That's the only way we are going to see progress," Jones said.
"I think it's got to be worse than (Columbine). I mean, you didn't see anything in Colorado" in substantive new gun control laws after 15 people were killed at Columbine High School in 1999.
Just because they are wrong doesn't mean they are wicked minions of Satan that want to drink babies' blood.
The quote does not say that a massacre would be a good thing, and it happens to be entirely correct: without an incident to provoke a media frenzy, there will not be the political will necessary to push through a big gun ban.
Most of these people (even the bona fide socialists) are simply ignorant and misled, and the sooner you all recognize that, the sooner you can get down to convincing them they are wrong and making real progress