Anti-hunting gun owners

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SteveS - no problem here with a "campaign" for all gun uses. My only point was that legally I can't see how the 2A deals with hunting.

Now the "right to life" is a good point as somebody brought up, and perhaps this could be seen as a hunting defense. If we turn our attention historically to Mosaic law, this is exactly what made it legal for some to hunt and even steal crops and livestock.

However, if hunting came up onto the chopping block in the courts, congress, etc. I just can't see the 2A as being its legal defense. That's not to say that hunting is illegal.... I'm just saying that it seems to be the wrong law to apply.
 
Hahaha, those evil leftists out indoctrinating everyone, this is clearly an illustration... since what, two people have expressed a complete disdain for hunting? And a dozen have said keep it legal but they don't support it. And about fourty have said keep it legal and they support it.
 
I don't hunt but have always supported hunters when the antis came out of the woodwork. Admittedly, the support was pretty tepid prior to '94, got much better after '94 and is reinvigorated after the Zumbo affair.

Never hurts to be reminded that we stand together or hang separately.
 
Well then two of them are fully indoctrinated by golly ....;)
 
SteveS - no problem here with a "campaign" for all gun uses. My only point was that legally I can't see how the 2A deals with hunting.

It doesn't, however, I tend to find that every anti-gun person I've met is accepting of my owning guns because I hunt. Even the most liberal of folks I know had a father or grandfather who hunted, and in their warped perspective, they will "allow" that right to exist as long as the need exists. How do you think laws get passed or amendments written? Public opinion, sentiment, and majority numbers dictate the law eventually. The law is a blank piece of paper waiting to be filled in by the representatives elected or appointed by the majority. Personally, I think that second amendment protections will be at great risk once the vast majority of wussified urbanites in this country decide that there really isn't a "need" to own guns...and they are getting closer every day. How many times have we heard the phrase, " my semi-auto rifle functions just like a hunting rifle?" What happens to the military style rifle when the majority sees no need for anyone to own a bolt or lever gun? Just think a moment about existing gun laws in areas of the country that don't have much hunting versus those that do.

As to the moral and ethical objections expressed here...I have to point out a few real lapses in logic. 1) Many animal species were nearly wiped out in the early part of the 20th century due to "meat hunters", fashion industries, and the depletion of natural habitat due to the building boom and the expansion of farms intended to provide food to those who chose to buy their groceries at a store. Today, it is the expansion of suburbia, roads / cars and huge corporate farms. H&H Hunter's description of the perils that herds face in Africa and India are the same thing -a century later.
2) Too cute? What's more cute than a lamb, calf, duck, etc. I guess it's a lot less cute when it's killed, processed, cooked and served with sauce by someone else. Killing is killing, whether you do it yourself, or pay to have it done.
3) Some of the attitudes here remind me of the recent bear cub debate in Germany. Apparently, it is not just the ultra liberals who believe that death by any means, is morally superior to any human interaction..even if it involves the death of an entire species vs. limited human management.

I certainly understand the desire not to hunt...I do less and less of it every year myself. There are many legitimate reasons not to...including personal moral beliefs, but some of the logical disconnects I've read here are very similar to the anti-gun arguments I often hear...and most of them are based on uniformed assumptions and rhetoric.
 
As I mentioned before, I really don't hunt much anymore.

That being said, I just don't understand the mind set of anyone that doesn't understand why hunting is necessary. The only thing I can understand and attributite this attitude to is to is an ignorance of nature that leads to an "urban mindset" to the food chain".

It really seems to me that way too many people just think their local grocery store "magically" has meat & fruits & vegatables available, without realizing that planning, planting, killing and butchering & harvesting are involved. After all, all they see are neatly packaged cuts of meat, fruit & vegatables wrapped in plastic. How many "city folk" even realize where their vegitables and fruits come from, if not from a "corporate" farm?

I get really concerned that the further we remove ourselves from nature, farming, harvesting, etc., that we forget, or discount what we truly are. Civilzation is a really fragile thing, when you really think about it.
 
Interesting topic. I do not hunt and have no interest. I just do not feel right about killing something that I feel is a treasure when I get to see them roaming in the wild. When you live in the cities, it is pretty cool to run across fox, turkeys, deer and the like, and the last though in my mind is to shoot them.

Now that does not mean I am anti-hunting. Both sides of my family hunt, and heck, I helped my mom build her dear stand. Just because I don't want to does not mean that I believe no one else should. All I ask from my friends/family that do is not to involve me in the cleaning/pictures of the dead animals.

They have all been very respectful of that, and if by chance they were not, then you are no friend of mine. They even have let me have some of there goods (venicine, pheasant, etc.)

I would not vote to take away hunters rights.

bill(will only shoot paper targets of critters)
 
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