ANTI RKBA forums and sites
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There are so many out there but these two are the most dangerous to RTKA due to their popularity, lobbying tactics, and $$ funding by the anti's.
www.bradycampaign.org
www.stopthenra.com
www.bradycampaign.org
www.stopthenra.com
geekWithA.45
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I'm compelled to remind people that we don't do forum flame wars.
rainbowbob
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Try these two sites:
http://www.vpc.org/index.htm
http://www.banhandgunsnow.org/everyhandgun/intro.html
http://www.vpc.org/index.htm
http://www.banhandgunsnow.org/everyhandgun/intro.html
rainbowbob
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No, they aren't interested in debating with anyone or reading anything that exposes their fallacies. I guess they gotta make a living too. So they keep the money rolling in by keeping the fear and loathing going on, and on, and on.
Ash
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One reason dedicated anti-forums would be tough to find is that there really isn't much to talk about other than crime sprees and the like. We discuss firearms here mostly and respond to attacks from the antis as part of that. But without our first interest, the second would see less traffic.
There is only the negative to discuss if you are anti-firearms. You can't discuss certain handguns or shotguns in that light. Those of us who comment on RKBA issues do so because we came first and foremost to discuss firearms. If this were only an RKBA site, I might never see it. Not because I do not have an interest. I do, and it is a strong one. But, I come here for other discussions first.
But go to a Mom Talk kind of website and you can find plenty of anti talk there. I know because my wife visits those forums and gets attacked for discussing our son helping me with a gun. He's three and that gets her into hot water.
Ash
There is only the negative to discuss if you are anti-firearms. You can't discuss certain handguns or shotguns in that light. Those of us who comment on RKBA issues do so because we came first and foremost to discuss firearms. If this were only an RKBA site, I might never see it. Not because I do not have an interest. I do, and it is a strong one. But, I come here for other discussions first.
But go to a Mom Talk kind of website and you can find plenty of anti talk there. I know because my wife visits those forums and gets attacked for discussing our son helping me with a gun. He's three and that gets her into hot water.
Ash
RKBABob
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The antis view themselves as intellectual elites. What would be the point of open discussion, after all, if they have already learned everything they need to know in this world from their two year liberal arts degree? No, they keep their blinders up at all times, lest their tremendous knowledge become clouded by superflous information and opposing viewpoints.
Just as another reminder, we don't engage in forum wars at THR nor do we condone them.
On the other hand, if members want to use good sound logical unemotional arguments that have been presented on THR on those sites that have a lot of misunderstanding about firearms and RKBA that sounds like a sound form of activism. Education is always the first step when dealing with the ill-informed.
Please remember that it is always best to be the mature voice instead of shrill and hysterical. The high road is more than just an internet forum name.
On the other hand, if members want to use good sound logical unemotional arguments that have been presented on THR on those sites that have a lot of misunderstanding about firearms and RKBA that sounds like a sound form of activism. Education is always the first step when dealing with the ill-informed.
Please remember that it is always best to be the mature voice instead of shrill and hysterical. The high road is more than just an internet forum name.
Megistopoda
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This is BY FAR the most influential anti-gun rights organization in the United States:
http://www.joycefdn.org/
For one thing, they have been largely responsible for funding "second amendment law reviews" that advocate collective rights positions. These propped up law reviews are cited HEAVILY in the DC merits brief, as well as in many briefs in support of the DC gun ban. The Joyce Foundation influence is profound and well entreched.
See here for some discussion about the Chicago-Kent Law Review they funded:
http://volokh.com/posts/chain_1112820316.shtml
http://www.joycefdn.org/
For one thing, they have been largely responsible for funding "second amendment law reviews" that advocate collective rights positions. These propped up law reviews are cited HEAVILY in the DC merits brief, as well as in many briefs in support of the DC gun ban. The Joyce Foundation influence is profound and well entreched.
See here for some discussion about the Chicago-Kent Law Review they funded:
http://volokh.com/posts/chain_1112820316.shtml
MrRezister
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Check out this "news" site. Despite the name, and the membership in the "Freedom States Alliance", they are extremely anti. I forward them news stories about people defending themselves successfully, but for some reason those stories never get posted... go figure.
http://www.gunguys.com/
http://www.gunguys.com/
Megistopoda
Member
Sir, would you believe that Freedom States Alliance is funded by Joyce Foundation? To the tune of $835,000.00 from April 2003 to June 2007? Check out the blatant lies on "Gun Guys"....and, note that Freedom States Alliance's purpose is to "promote effective media, public, and policy-maker education among gun violence prevention groups." Some education...
I am telling you, Joyce has their $$ in nearly every gun control group in the nation. They claim they are about preventing "gun violence" but their efforts are ONLY about reducing the number of guns in society....likewise their funding is used to further the cause of any and all gun control legislation.
12/2/2005
Mark Karlin & Associates
Chicago, IL
Grant Amount: $650,000.00
Length: 18 mos.
To support the continued efforts of its Freedom States Alliance, a project to promote financial self-sufficiency and effective media, public, and policy-maker education efforts among gun violence prevention groups, especially those in Illinois and Wisconsin.
4/9/2003
Mark Karlin & Associates
Chicago, IL
Grant Amount: $185,000.00
Length: 18 mos.
To help raise the media presence and capacity of Midwest gun violence prevention groups.
alsaqr
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Used to belong to several anti-gun nanny websites. Drove them nuts with real accounts of folks defending themselves and their families from armed criminals.
Always got the same old replies: "Just call the cops, scream, blow a whistle, run away, and just give them what they want." "Give them what they want" included female bodies. A couple of times they said: That is just too hard a call to make."
At no time was I ever given an alternative that included self defense using a gun.
Always got the same old replies: "Just call the cops, scream, blow a whistle, run away, and just give them what they want." "Give them what they want" included female bodies. A couple of times they said: That is just too hard a call to make."
At no time was I ever given an alternative that included self defense using a gun.
That's because in their minds, if there aren't any guns, there won't be any "gun violence."
There are many flaws with this, the biggest is that that banning guns will not have any effect on criminals having guns. Just look at Europe and Australia. And Mexico. Etc.
PILMAN
Member
I don't know of any anti-gun forums but there are a few debate forums I hang around that have gun debates, also a lot of anti-gun topics on the richard dawkins forums.
PILMAN
Member
Sky scraper city forums are pretty anti-gun.
Ratzinger_p38
Member
Wow that is pretty bad. Gun Guys is still the worst of the bunch.
Any group advocating forcible disarmament is flat out totalitarian IMO. They cannot serious argue that the founders intended THAT to be allowed.
From the banhandgunsnow.org website:
Jason
Oh my at the spin! It should only take a person with mediocre reasoning skills to surmise that by their statistics, we can assume that about 63% (100% minus 37%) of Americans do NOT favor the banning of handguns... and taking it a step further, only a small portion of those that oppose even have a financially vested interest by owning a handgun. I think it's safe to say the American population as a whole is fairly pro-gun. It just so happens that the minority is loud and located in large cities that get alot of media attention.
Jason
the pistolero
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This is true, but our "neighbors" to the south will point the finger at us all day long and say it's our fault the criminals are getting guns. Yet every time we try to secure the border a little more they scream bloody murder.
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