Any AK bolt buffers that DON'T cause jamming?

[Kymasabe]

I had a BlackJack green bolt buffer on my AK and caused nothing but jamming problems. Removed it and now the AK cycles again. I tried a Buffer Technologies buffer but can't get the darn thing on, hole for the spring is too small.

Anyone have one that works?

 

[Coronach]

No idea, but I'm curious myself. Also, if the hole is too small...got a drill?

Mike

 

[Shear_stress]

I've installed a green Blackjack buffer in both a Saiga-12 and WASR10 and haven't had a lick of trouble. Just a thought: did you make sure that you installed the buffer with the angled portion of the "key hole" facing the rear trunnion? If not, the buffer will not seat properly against the machined part of the spring guide and will affect cycling.

 

[model 649]

I've got a Springco in my SSR85C2 and haven't had a bit of trouble with any ammo I've run through it. Its a pellet of what appears to be some kind of urethane that drops into the recoil spring. Cuts down on some of the clatter as it cycles. Look here:
http://www.sprinco.com/index.html
Josh

 

[1 old 0311]

There are 50,000,000 AK's out there without bolt buffers, and they work just fine. If it aint broke.....................

 

[rangerruck]

ive got blackkacks in my 223 and my 762rus and have had no probs. but then , I got Saigas, so...

 

[_N4Z_]

i'll second that "if it aint broke".

 

[DMK]

My SAR1 didn't like the Blackjack buffer either. I tossed it and never looked back.

 

[student]

Waste of money....I made the same mistake

 

[Dave Markowitz]

IMHO, a bolt buffer on an AK is like teats on a boar. Totally superfluous and may in fact be counterproductive.

 

[MudPuppy]

I've been dubious of the worth of buffers myself, but...
I built a pistol that kept locking to the rear--the bolt seem to jump up out of the rails. I think I may have installed the trunnion a bit to the rear, or perhaps it was out of spec (as it is a custom trunnion designed specifically for a pistol).

Anyhow, tried a blackjack and it its been fine. My take is that I'll still not use one if it fires without it, but I've learned they do have their uses.

(I know, I know, if it was a properly funtioning firearm it wouldn't likely need it. And I suppose I could drill out the trunnion, weld up the holds, remeasure and redrill and rerivet the trunnion back in, and as fun as that sounds, the buffer has done the trick.)

 

[Shear_stress]

I know, it's inconceivable that someone would want to change anything on a rifle as perfect as a WASR10.

 

[KaceCoyote]

What makes the Kalashnikov a successful rifle design is its simplicity.


Add a muzzle brake, if the Recoil of a 7.62AK is too much then buy a 5.45 model..or just get a AR.

 

[ID_shooting]

"Any AK bolt buffers that DON'T cause jamming?"

One NOT in the AK?

Count me into the din't come with it, wasn't designed for it, don't need it category.

 

[saltydog]

Duh! Whats a buffer? I looked in my AK and it ain't there.

Did Kalashnikov leave something out?

 

[MTMilitiaman]

For what it is worth, the recoil spring on the AK has to be taken off to install the Buffer Tech. It then slides right over the wire assembly and the spring is reinstalled. Mine has worked flawlessly. My brother tried the Blackjack and it gave him troubles as well. My take on the Buffer Tech is "eh." It is okay and hasn't impeeded function. It might take a little of the impact out but it hardly makes a difference the user is going to be able to distinguish, so the primary reason to get one is for some theoritical advantage in service life or reduced wear. But the AK isn't exactly known to be fragile. And replacing the recoil spring is a big enough PITA that I really don't think it is worth it. If and when I get another AK, it probably won't have the recoil buffer.

 

[MudPuppy]

Did Kalashnikov leave something out?

Lot's--it wasn't built to be perfect, just good enough and as cheap as possible.

Decent sights, a bolt hold, the ability to fire lefty--and he only included a little bit of accuracy. (The AK is still my preferred platform, so don't think I'm bashing, just realistic.)

Like I said, I've got one that won't fire without a buffer.

 

[CZguy]

I thought the general consensus on these things, was to never put one in a firearm that would be used for self defence. And if you put it a plinker, be prepared for it to jam.

I wish I could say that I've never added anything unnecessary to a gun, but nothing could be further from the truth. So I guess I can't say too much about recoil buffers.

 

[_N4Z_]

Lot's--it wasn't built to be perfect, just good enough and as cheap as possible.

Decent sights, a bolt hold, the ability to fire lefty--and he only included a little bit of accuracy. (The AK is still my preferred platform, so don't think I'm bashing, just realistic.)

I shoot a stock 7.62 AK lefty with no problems at all. Spents fly out at a 90 degree angle to the shooter a good 6+ feet.

Now ye ole m16a1's of my acquaintance all required a snap on brass deflector to keep the casings out of my face.

 

[RangerHAAF]

I bought my Buffer Technologies buffer from Tapco quite a while back and there has never been any stoppages that I can honestly attribute to the buffer, per se. All of the problems that I've experienced have come from military surplus magazines.

 

[MechAg94]

I would say a well built AK can have quite a bit of accuracy. It just isn't designed to be a target rifle and the design limits the ability to make it one.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

...the ability to fire lefty...

I'm a southpaw. I shoot from the left shoulder. I've owned and shot several AKs. Not one has ever come close to pinging me with the brass. Ejection is normally at about 2 o'clock.

 

[clange]

All of the problems that I've experienced have come from military surplus magazines.

What kind of problems?

 

[RangerHAAF]

Failure to feed correctly after about 2-3 shots. This probably has to do with my leaving the magazines(Bulgarian, I think) loaded for long periods of time but I dont have that problem with the original Chinese mags that came with my AK when I first bought it in 1987.

 

[Shear_stress]

I wish I could say that I've never added anything unnecessary to a gun, but nothing could be further from the truth. So I guess I can't say too much about recoil buffers.

Well said. This is a standard, USDA-certified internet gun debate: one group tried "X" and hasn't had any trouble, one group tried "X" and had nothing but trouble, and a third group, much larger than the other two, has some vague, deep-seated, philosophical objection to "X" for reasons that made sense when they were typing their response.